If he did that to Lucic, this thread would be titled "Hero Roussel ejected for cross check to Lucic's throat"
An elbow is one thing.....Getting a cross check to the throat is something entirely different .
And yes - Howe only had 2 fights if I remember correctly...He was 1 guy nobody wanted to mess with.
I think Gordie had more than two fights. It may be that only two fights are remembered or recorded somewhere. Otherwise, he had only one fight besides Fontinato. That might be right, but it doesn't sound right.
There have been a few members promoted to Mod in the last few years that surprised me. Surprised me to the point to where I PM'd Matt and asked how much money I had to send him to be a Mod because __________ obviously paid him to be one.
This never happened. I checked, because getting a PM that puts a $ figure on the management decisions made on this site is a monstrous slap in the face and something I would've absolutely remembered if it, you know -- actually happened.
My brother was perma banned 2 years ago because he told a mod he was "being a nazi", because he made a post about how refs were a holes and used it to vent his frustrations about something that happened in game that the mod didn't agree with. He contacted matt about this and said it was personal and matt simply said "I trust my mods, sorry".
There is no single faster way to get yourself perma-banned on this site (other than being a 1st-post blatant troll) than directly insulting the moderators on here. It's surprising how many people feel a persecution complex and think it's a personal vendetta when they have a posted edited/deleted. Now, this may sound harsh: You're not that important. Really.
Now that that's out of the way... Moderating is an absolutely thankless job. It has been stated continuously that you simply cannot keep everyone happy. It's an accepted fact. What Harold, vladdy, MB, Jedi et al have stated is absolutely true. Every thread that gets removed, every post, gets moved to a special sub-forum within the moderator forum. It's all there. There's discussion on how to handle certain situations that come up if disciplining a member might be required. They volunteer their free time to help keep the ship righted. I'm immeasurably indebted to them for doing so.
I've also stated repeatedly that I have absolutely no problem with dissenting opinions on this site -- it is what makes for a diverse community. Let's face it, no one wants to have the forum turn into one giant circlejerk where everyone agrees with each other and it's all lollipops and ponies.
Now this may come as a surprise, but:
I do reply to PMs. Yes, I'm incredibly busy day-to-day, but I do make time and I do get notified. Now, if you have a concern about the moderating or another poster, just let me know. Be an adult about it, and I reciprocate. "THANKS FOR THE POLICE STATE!!1!" PMs will be summarily ignored (you know who you are). It is very rare I get PMs relating to something like this at all. I'm not the boogieman.
I have reversed moderating decisions. Now, it doesn't happen often, but it does. You know how that dialog gets started? PM me. Moderators make mistakes. I make mistakes. We're not above rectifying them.
I do want your feedback! There are good reasons that this site has been around for over 18 years now -- this baby is already heading off to college. It's been built upon that sense of community, of taking care to listen to the suggestions and concerns that the members here share, and by a fantastic moderating crew.
The last thing I'd want this site to become is over-moderated. I'd love it if the site didn't even need any. Anyone that knows me on here knows I'm all for no curse filter, some good animated banter that doesn't get personal, etc.. But I don't want comment spam. I don't want flame wars. I don't want cursing just for the sake of it.
I'd like to think of this place as a virtual sports bar, with each of you pulled up on your own stool, with a cold beer in your hand and a hearty rant about the values of CORSI and Jimmy Howard's SV% on Saturday afternoon games during Leap Years when Mike Emrick is calling the game and Babcock is wearing his McGill tie at the tips of your fingers. Don't take it too seriously, and enjoy it in a manner that contributes to make the site better for everyone.
That's now how it works. If you lose sight, whistle is blown. 99% of the time, the ref knows where the puck is, be it under the goalies pad, under his glove, whatever ,even if he can't see it under there. If he can't physically see the puck, the whistle is to be blown. The ref might have seen it go in, but he had no idea where it went. It could have fallen out or whatever and he not seen that. Bad call. Did they go to Toronto on this?
A grey area maybe, but not a bad call. The circumstance you're talking about is when the puck is already in the crease and the ref loses sight of it as the goalie is trying to cover it. It's a much quicker whistle because refs don't want guys hammering away at the goalie to knock the puck loose when it might be frozen.
In this case, Smith is outside the crease when the puck goes up in the air and in his pants, then Smith immediately slides back into the net. He in no way is trying to cover the puck. And watching it real time, the ref skates over and blows the whistle after only a couple seconds transpired.
That happens all the time in hockey when a puck gets stuck in a player's equipment. The refs wait a couple seconds to see if it'll fall out. On the overhead you can even see that the puck is visible the whole time. It didn't disappear into his pants.
The ref never signaled a goal on the ice so I'm guessing this was reviewed in Toronto?
If Thornton gets more than 5 games, it just once again proves what a complete joke the NHL is, and how hypocritcal they are.
Lets be real here, Thornton didn't even drop the gloves, he just caught Orpik just right with a gloved hit and briefly KO'd him. The only reason everyone is making a big deal out of it is because the brought in the stretcher. Players throw punches to each others face with gloves on literally every single game at some point.
Neal should have had the book thrown at him. That knee was such a digusting and dirty play. Thornton was out of line too, but Neals hit was WAY worse, IMO. The intent from Neal was nothing other than to seriously injure.
Lets also not forget that the reason Thornton went after Orpik was because Neal immediately after kneeing Marchand in the head, ran to the bench like a gutless coward so he wouldn't have to go with any of the Bruins. If Neal stays on the ice to face the music, Thornton goes after him instead.
Posted by F.Michael
on 08 December 2013 - 10:53 AM
So your a big fan of womans hockey then. Checking will never be out of the game. It moves to fast to not touch anyone.
Hi - I'm F.Michael - maybe you don't know me all to well so let me take the time to introduce myself...
For those who've been here these past several years knows that I'm a proud member of the 'Knuckle Dragger Club' (well it's sorta unofficial)...Anywho - I am one of a handful of dinosaurs here at LGW who loves a good fight between 2 willing combatants, and still feels it to be beneficial to have a handful of guys on the roster who can take a reg shift, and get their noses dirty when needed.
Now - with that being said...As expected - there's disgust of what we had seen with last night's game...My point was that if we wish to see this form of behavior removed from the game at the NHL level - we may as well go ahead, and eliminate checking from the game along with fighting...Many may forget that much of these violent acts begin with what may be deemed a dirty hit from an opponent, and as both GMR, and Nev pointed out to me - Orpik has a habit of injuring opponents with questionable body checks, and is generally not well liked.
Long story short - eliminating fighting from the game won't keep it 'clean' to a level that some would prefer; as you rightfully pointed out - the speed of todays game combined with physical play via checking will most likely cause some injuries, and heated exchanges between opponents...I myself don't mind seeing these sorts of rivalries form since IMHO it creates some of the best hockey to watch (Red Wings vs Avalanche anyone?).
Just saw this quote from Jumbo Joe regarding Hertl...
Joe Thornton would unzip his pants if he scored four goals Hearing a question to Marleau about Hertl and whether he was showboating, Thornton said: “Shut up, have you ever played the game?” . When the press turned his way, he then added: “I’d have my cock out if I scored four goals. I’d have my cock out, stroking it.”