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#2540602 Babcock " I dont think it will be my final year here"

Posted by kipwinger on 14 October 2014 - 08:40 AM

Just let me get this straight : Because Alfie made a "piss poor" decision, it's all Holland fault ? When Alfie choose us above the Bruins despite our slim chances to win him a Cup shouldn't Holland get credit for bringing such a player here ?


I think the point is that Holland shouldn't get credit for anything...ever. 

#2540590 Babcock " I dont think it will be my final year here"

Posted by gcom007 on 13 October 2014 - 11:36 PM


Not necessarily.  Babs buried Legwand on the fourth line wing last year and it had nothing to do with injuries or effectiveness.  When he demoted him Legwand was centering the best offensive line we had all season.  So, there's always the chance that Babs just doesn't like the guy, regardless of how much he could help, or how well he plays. 


Legwand wasn't our biggest free agent acquisition in years though, and he at least played. Weiss has been a healthy scratch. Again, a player with a $4.9 million cap hit has been a healthy scratch for the first two games of the season. Sure, Babcock might not like him, but I don't think Holland would let that fly if there wasn't a damn good reason, or if Weiss simply isn't really ready. He may be "healthy" relative to his prior injury problems, but perhaps his conditioning is not close to where it should be, or something along those lines. This can't be so simple as "Babcock doesn't like him." I get that it's easy to cast Babcock in such a way when you're making broad strokes, but you don't get away with making decisions to bench a player like Weiss for petty reasons in the NHL.


We signed this guy to be our 2nd line center a little over a year ago; he's the 3rd highest paid player on the team that's not a goalie. He's got a deal that's structured almost the same salary-wise as Kronwall's, who is the anchor of our defense! If this goes on, I think you have to figure that Holland is in agreement with Babcock on the matter, and if so, Weiss is currently at a sub-Samuelsson level within the organization. Even Sammy started the first couple games last year before we had to worry about injuries to stars like we have this year, and he wasn't even making nearly as much money. Nothing about this smells right.

#2539785 10/11/14 GDT: Game 2 | Ducks 3 @ Red Wings 2

Posted by FlashyG on 11 October 2014 - 02:07 AM


#2539736 Babcock " I dont think it will be my final year here"

Posted by kipwinger on 10 October 2014 - 01:37 PM


With the job Shanny previously had? That was probably the only job in the league worse than an upper level management postion with the Leafs.


Also, you guys are all forgetting about Lebda. :lol:


Lol, when he joined the Leafs I told my dad he left the second most scrutinized job in hockey for the first most scrutinized job in hockey. 

#2539205 10/9 GDT : Bruins 1 at Red Wings 2.

Posted by dat's sick on 09 October 2014 - 08:25 AM

I don't see what's so bad about the lines. Kid line together, Z and Franzen together, Nestrasil-Helm-Nyquist as a 3rd line compared to Bertuzzi-Andersson-Cleary as a 3rd line last opening night, and a solid 4th line. 


I'm pretty excited to get things started. 

#2538817 23 man roster set... say hi to your 2014/15 Wings

Posted by Jesusberg on 07 October 2014 - 02:30 PM

The roster moves have pissed people off so much that they're experiencing hallucinations involving talking dogs. Way to go, Kenny.

#2538786 Datsyuk to play Thursday? Weiss to be a healthy scratch?

Posted by dat's sick on 07 October 2014 - 01:43 PM

Remember that things can still happen before thursday. And even if it doesn't, it won't be long before Ouellet is on the team one way or another. Babcock has clearly stated his wish by practicing XO with Quincey and having Kindl/Lashoff as extras. 

#2538762 Datsyuk to play Thursday? Weiss to be a healthy scratch?

Posted by kipwinger on 07 October 2014 - 01:12 PM

The best players will play. 

#2538725 Datsyuk to play Thursday? Weiss to be a healthy scratch?

Posted by Bannedforlife on 07 October 2014 - 10:58 AM

Weiss will be playing this week and as long as he is put with a couple decent linemates he will produce. He will be fine.


I don't think Datsyuk will be playing the first few games, but once he gets back he will be back to his same old magic.


Side note: Am I the only one who tries to picture what some people look and act like outside of this site? I have a lot of people pegged, whether I'm right or not, I'll probably never know... Either way, it entertains me to see some people act so childish on here, I can only assume that some of them are still children, but you never know... :lol:


This is what I imagine most of you look like...



#2538706 Blast from the Past

Posted by jimmyemeryhunter on 07 October 2014 - 09:37 AM

Your dads mustache game is amazing.
Thanks for sharing BTW.
That's really damn cool.

I looked him up and was reading a bit on him, "a slick playmaking center"


#2538666 Blast from the Past

Posted by Son of a Wing on 06 October 2014 - 11:04 PM

So I was going through a bunch of my Dad's old things and stumbled upon one of his NHL contracts from the Red Wings lying in between the pages of an old program.


I've never seen an NHL contract before (let alone from the 70s) and thought it was interesting and that I would share for others interested as well.


The salary and bonuses give an interesting perspective in comparison to today.  The average salary (according to the HHOF) in 1970 was $18,000.










#2538641 Datsyuk to play Thursday? Weiss to be a healthy scratch?

Posted by toby91_ca on 06 October 2014 - 08:19 PM

One of the dumbest things I've ever read:



Detroit finished 16th last season in both goals-for per-game (2.65) and total goals scored (217)

#2538634 Holland interview with Mickey comment about a trade

Posted by number9 on 06 October 2014 - 07:58 PM

Eva was a legend.  I miss his super serious font, especially in the context of super serious font telling me Hudler can put up 70 points playing with Datsyuk.  It brought even more seriousness to his serious statistical analyses.

Aha I forgot about his font.

You know who I miss a ton? Crymson. I think he disappeared when this last bunch of knuckle heads rolled in. That guy was my daily Xanax bar. Come back Crym!

#2538530 Datsyuk to play Thursday? Weiss to be a healthy scratch?

Posted by kipwinger on 06 October 2014 - 10:52 AM


I suppose it could also just mean that he's trying to bring Weiss along slowly? Who knows with Babcock, he can be weird sometimes. See: Legwand, David - 4th line center.


You mean fourth line winger.  Babs actually had him playing on Glendening's wing lol. 

#2538398 NY Islanders Acquire Leddy and Boychuk

Posted by Detroit # 1 Fan on 04 October 2014 - 08:11 PM


Yes the Islanders are a model f****** franchise aren’t they? 


Now we’re saying Snow is a better GM than Holland? Is that what we’re saying? I need you to put that in writing so I can make it my signature. 


No where did I say the Islanders franchise were model, nor better then the Wings. Didn't compare Garth to Kenny either, you did that. Hell, I didn't even say their defense is better then ours. All I said was Garth at least tries, he's quite the idiot usually, but today not so much. I'm sure Holland does lots of work behind the scenes, but nothing ever comes of it. Don't jump all over me for a sentence haha. Once in a while, I wouldn't mind seeing Kenny take a chance in a trade. Sometimes it works, and sometimes it doesn't but it's better then bringing back the same roster from last year that didn't do a whole lot. Now, if one of the kids gets a spot in the top 6 and Kindl is on the bench then I won't really care either way. If we're going to be mediocre again this season, I'd rather see young guys playing because the sooner they're in the lineup, the sooner we're one of the top teams in the East.