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#2525233 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by kipwinger on 23 June 2014 - 10:52 AM

If i meant them getting Sproul in the lineup who is much cheaper, letting them resign young talent like Jurco, Goose, etc, and can provide offense on the 3rd pairing and the PP? Yes. 

 

I mean, I don't disagree with your logic.  I just have a hard time imagining KH moving ANY roster player.  The combination of Ericsson being "home grown" and Holland being so loyal that he'd rather watch his team tank than move a guy who has value, makes me believe he'll never...EVER...trade a homegrown top pairing d-man. 




#2525235 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by e_prime on 23 June 2014 - 10:58 AM

 

I mean, I don't disagree with your logic.  I just have a hard time imagining KH moving ANY roster player.  The combination of Ericsson being "home grown" and Holland being so loyal that he'd rather watch his team tank than move a guy who has value, makes me believe he'll never...EVER...trade a homegrown top pairing d-man. 

This is going to be his downfall.




#2525213 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by e_prime on 23 June 2014 - 09:57 AM

 

Yeah, I read that Mlive Q&A as well.

 

Basically, he speculates that Holland won't overpay either in UFA dollars or in tradable assets. So no Niskanens, no Boyles, no Keslers, or Yandle type guys.

 

Honestly, I'd be happy with Tom Gilbert. He'smobile, has a great first pass, can eat up a ton of minutes, and has that right shot.

 

One of the "secondary scorers" he mentioned was Jussi Jokinen. I will be absolutely furious if we sign that guy.

...but in the same breath he mentions Moulson and Stastny.  Those are names I could live with.

 

Ansar

 

Possibilities include Dan Boyle, Anton Stralman, Derek Morris, Tom Gilbert and Stephane Robidas.

As far as defense goes... Those are fine.  Not what I really want, but Stralman has simplified his game and would be a solid piece.  Morris and Gilbert are decent puck-movers.  Can't complain too much.  If we're not going for broke I don't see why we'd want to take on Boyle (he wants cash and term) and Robidas is just aged and broken down. (38 and 48 games played in the last two years)




#2524908 Brad Richards bought out by Rangers

Posted by DickieDunn on 20 June 2014 - 05:52 PM

the sad thing is, all these quality players becoming available and Holland is thinking about re-signing Cleary...horrible.

 

 

Yup, because he can only do one thing at a time.  Talking to Cleary about a possible 2 way contract is the only thing he's working on.  




#2524785 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by e_prime on 20 June 2014 - 08:25 AM

Yzerman played the game with integrity. Thornton is a diving, embellishing scumbag.

Sather is likely to overpay for him, anyway, if the rumors are true that he is indeed interested.

 

So not only will they take on Thornton's cap-hit after dumping Richards' through a buy-out.  They'll probably have to send  Brassard (maybe not the caliber player of Big Joe, but he's, as they say, "on the right side of thirty.")  plus other pieces...because you know it's not going to be Brassard for Thornton straight up.  

 

...and ultimately they'll be right back in the position they are right now... almost $54 up against the cap with 7 forwards, 4 d-men, and 2 d-men signed. If they keep themselves in that position they will not be able to re-sign Stralman, Boyle, or Pouliot. Certainly not all three.

 

Sather is an idiot.  I swear to gawd! He needs to realize that they New Yawk Rangers made it to the Finals on the good fortunes of seeding, a Montreal team determined to beat Boston, just enough talent to beat a couple of dysfunctional teams from Pennsylvania team, and a player's personal loss turned into team motivation.

 

Thornton passing to Nash sounds great.  Doesn't it.  Until you realize there's no more depth after that. 

Sather needs to maybe take a breath and realize that he needs talent around Henrik if he's going to get the Rags back to the Cup Final.  Not just a star center in Joe Thornton. 

 

I would be very surprised to see the New York Ranger back in the Cup Final next year.

 

On topic:  Marleau would look pretty good in a Wings jersey.  Would take him over Thornton.

A big bodied winger that's still pretty fast, a two-way player, and that can score... bringing him East might give him a boost.


Well my position isn't to win a cup every year, had you read my position you would have seen it was to either be a contender or be making tangible steps towards becoming a contender again, 

 

I'm pretty sure I pointed that out.  Hence points my points A) and B) to mirror yours. 

...but you read it the way you want to, bro.




#2524749 Wings officially have vacancy in asst coach spot

Posted by Dabura on 20 June 2014 - 12:11 AM

What's to stop Chris Chelios?




#2524624 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by wings4thecup06 on 19 June 2014 - 04:05 PM

Or those players are less able to produce, and given the lackluster defense and jekyll and hyde nature of Howard they finish just on the outside of the playoff picture at the end of the season.

 

This really, isn't what I'd called being 'realistic' though. It's being negative and bringing a defeatist attitude when the draft, free agency and our roster for next season hasn't even formulated yet. 

 

If you're expecting the Wings to win the cup every year then you are setting yourself up for failure because it'll never happen. Yes all of us here want the Wings to do well, but surely being a realist would mean realising that the Wings won't win the cup every year?? I mean, winning one is hard to do, let alone two. 

 

You obviously disagree, but IMO this team is trending up. They're getting rid of excess baggage (aside from Clearly but that remains to be seen), are healthy, will most likely have their two best players back and ready to go (Z looked great in the two games he played against Boston, and there's no reason to suggest why a summer of rehab and conditioning shouldn't have him even better), we've got young guys coming up who are largely responsible for getting us in last season and have bright futures ahead, and we've got arguably our most exciting prospect for as long as I can remember (Mantha) turning pro and possibly challenging for a spot. So what's not to like? Rebuilding on the fly isn't exactly a painless process and we've seen that the last two years. But with the pieces we have, it definitely doesn't suggest we're going to suck. Too many people here I think are getting down on the Wings already even though the offseason really hasn't even started to get going yet. Am I the only one who's excited about the future of this team? 




#2524252 Trading up?

Posted by number9 on 17 June 2014 - 01:27 PM

Yes, Captain Obvious, if you want to play it safe this is not a deal for you. It's a risk, but a calculated one imo. I have never said otherwise.

 

And there's a reason my point is obvious. Trading away your franchise player and captain for an overhyped draft pick isn't a calculated risk, it's NHL 14 fantasy la la land.




#2524559 Compliance buyout expected to be used on Tootoo

Posted by FlashyG on 19 June 2014 - 10:32 AM

The signing of Tootoo and the result of buying him out is just a further indication that Babcock and Holland do not agree on the direction of the team. I would be really surprised at this point if Babcock resigns as coach after his contract expires this year unless Holland gets off his ass and makes this team a winner once again.

 

When Tootoo was signed Babcock was quoted as asking for a right handed shot, that provides both speed and sandpaper.

 

Holland got him Tootoo who provided all 3. Unfortunately for all involved his lack of PK ability, his tendency to get way out of position going for the big hit and his struggles to play within the Wings system quickly took him out of the coaches good graces.

 

I don't think the divide between Holland and Babcock is any bigger than any other coach GM relationship. He gets his say on every roster decision the team makes, which is more than can be said for a lot of coaches out there.




#2524514 Detroit re-signs Gustavsson 1 yr $1.85 mill

Posted by number9 on 19 June 2014 - 03:21 AM

 

Were there not at least one or two games where Gustavsson gave us more than a chance to win in the shootout. I'm thinking specifically of a game against Tampa when he stopped 6 out of 7 or 7 out of 8, but our forwards couldn't score a single goal (http://scores.espn.g...ameId=400484719).

 

I think certain people are also forgetting how he played in the playoffs when he was called on at the last minute - he played well enough that you weren't worried when he was put back in the next game. Other back-ups buckled in the same scenario (Tampa, Montreal, before they called up Tokarski).

 

Gus was a great back up this year. anyone who says otherwise is leftwinger




#2524440 Compliance buyout expected to be used on Tootoo

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 18 June 2014 - 01:28 PM

I'd miss him too, but I can't remember any of the 11 games he played in last year.

 

Think back to the ones with the lame staged fights. 




#2524427 Compliance buyout expected to be used on Tootoo

Posted by joesuffP on 18 June 2014 - 01:04 PM

Ahh the old showing up to play homage that LGW bestows on players that apparently Babcock hasn't noticed. We're a much worse team without Franzen. I don't get why every player gets a pass on last season when comparing stats (datsyuk, zetterberg) because of our miserable injury plagued season except for Franzen. You don't buy out legitimate top 6 players that have good contracts.

LGW: "we need two more top 6 players. Let's buy out Franzen and just buy 3 more. It's been really easy to acquire talent lately"


#2524006 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by Euro_Twins on 16 June 2014 - 10:33 AM

 
http://www.theglobea...rticle19176028/
 


All that's saying I'd that alfies bonuses were deferred to next seasons cap, which we already knew was going to happen. We're not being punished like you said. We still have money to spend this off season and it doesn't put us into "cap trouble"


#2523870 Ben Vanderklok replaces Mitch Korn as Goaltending Coach in Nashville

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 14 June 2014 - 04:21 PM

If you're not interested in the thread, simply don't post in it. 




#2523649 Trading up?

Posted by Dabura on 12 June 2014 - 08:04 PM

The thing about this possibility is, as far as I can tell, it's totally doable. We wouldn't have to sell the farm, or ship out Z or D. We'd probably just have to move Ericsson (Tallon wants a big-bodied top-four defenseman), a pick, and a prospect. For Aaron Ekblad? I would do that. But that's just me.