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#2637246 Jeff Blashill = Dave Lewis 2.0 / Coaching Change

Posted by kipwinger on 15 November 2015 - 07:03 PM

He'll get it sorted out.  He's not a bad coach, he just needs to make sure the guys realize that just because they don't play for Babcock anymore, doesn't mean they don't have to play the game the right way. 

#2634321 Jeff Blashill = Dave Lewis 2.0 / Coaching Change

Posted by BottleOfSmoke on 31 October 2015 - 10:25 AM

Just so we are clear. Most of you guys or girls, whatever gender you are behind your computer, are talking out of both sides of your mouths.
Some of you don't think they upgraded.
Some of you say they are still young.
Some of you say the team is old.
Some of you say it's only 8 games.
While some of you say certain players have missed large chunks of the season. 

It's almost as if we're... *spooky voice*

All different people with different opinions!!!!

*horror movie scream*

We get it. You've had all you can stand and you can't stand no more. But you need to stop with the incredulity that not everyone agrees with you or your histrionics. If you want to panic and rage against the machine, have at it. But some of us actually want to try to enjoy the season and see how things play out without having a massive cardiac event. To each their own, man.

#2636810 Abby Signs 7-year, 29.75 mil Extension

Posted by kipwinger on 13 November 2015 - 01:48 PM


Exactly. Get it right :lol:


And we all know that being an assistant GM means jack squat around these parts unless you're Holland's assistant GM. Then you're the real mastermind.


Lol.  Apparently all Holland has to do to get some respect is to personally scout, draft, develop, acquire, train, and coach each and every player on the team.  That's all.  Totally reasonable. 

#2636800 Pulkkinen fined for diving

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 13 November 2015 - 01:20 PM


I don't get it. Are you trying to say that Nyquist doesn't draw penalties anymore becuase he got caught for diving?

Sorry, maybe I said it in an unclear way. To me, it does seem to me that Nyquist draws a lot of penalties. He was caught for the dive of course, but I've noticed him do the chicken wing 'hold the stick so it looks like he's hooking me' thing a few times. Then there's been a bunch were he's gone down, but didn't look like a dive.


I was just hoping to see if anyone had numbers to show how many calls are with him involved. 

#2636799 Abby Signs 7-year, 29.75 mil Extension

Posted by kipwinger on 13 November 2015 - 01:19 PM


First Holland is in the bottom half of GMs in the last 5 years. Too many defenders use his past to defend him, but in sports yesterday is meaningless. It's today that counts. We have to ask ourselves today is this team likely to contend for a cup? And if not are they likely to in the near future (next 5 years). The answer to both of these questions so far is a resounding NO. The team lacks a lot of pieces that are necessary to compete for a cup, and the pieces they have are either getting close to retirement age (Kronwall, Datsyuk, Zetterberg), or are too young to make an impact big enough to replace those who will retire. This is made worse by the fact that Holland has overpaid for replaceable players, which teams like Chicago have shown are exactly the type you can flip for younger cheaper players.


Until Holland does anything to show he's fallen into bubble team complacency he is a mediocre GM as it stands today.


Make the playoffs for the last five years.  Bottom half of GMs.  Lol.  Only on LGW. 

Sure, Holland took over a team full of future HOFers but that was 17 years ago. And the man hasn't had a bad season by any NHL GM's standards EVER. Who even compares? Sather? Lamoriello? They had their share of terrible failure years and made some crappy moves and signings. How about lil' Bowman? He may be enjoying sexy times right now (big thanks to Dale Talon) but let's talk about him in 10 years.


Holland may not have been the best GM last week or in June of this year or two minutes ago, but he is, generally speaking one of the 5 best GMs in the NHL right now, and the best GM over the last 20 years. I M O.


Again, just to clarify.  Holland "took over" a team full of Hall of Famers that HE DRAFTED.  And then he acquired like 5 more Hall of Famers.  The only Hall of Famer he had nothing to do with was Yzerman. 

#2636756 Abby Signs 7-year, 29.75 mil Extension

Posted by joesuffP on 13 November 2015 - 10:26 AM

So if Abby wanted 8 years and Holland wanted 5, would you naysayers have told Abby to walk? I'm not thrilled with the term but I'm happy for Abby that he'll retire a wing. These 4M contracts aren't back breaking even if he does regress badly in his final years. People act like Holland has decided to replace Datsyuk with Abby because of this deal. He's paid like a secondary player

#2636759 Nemesis vs. Archenemy: Detroit Red Wings Edition

Posted by e_prime on 13 November 2015 - 11:00 AM

4. N: Patrick Roy.  A: LGW

#2636754 Abby Signs 7-year, 29.75 mil Extension

Posted by kipwinger on 13 November 2015 - 10:10 AM


First Miller (you're wrong) and now this (you're right). You enjoy putting a target on your back, Bill. Get ready to duck.


I agree with your assessment of Holland. His success is the product of the '89 draft, Andersson, Bowman, and Nill.


You know what Ken Holland was doing during the fabled class of 1989 draft?  Scouting and drafting them.  He was the Director of Amateur Scouting.  You know what those other guys where doing for the Wings organization in 1989?  Nothing.  They didn't work here yet. 


If you're going to attribute his success to that class, fine.  Give him credit for scouting and drafting them since, ya know, he did that.  He's literally the only person you mentioned who had anything at all to do with getting those guys into Red Wings sweaters. 

#2636702 11/13 GDT | Sharks @ Red Wings | 7:30 PM ET | FSD

Posted by FlashyG on 12 November 2015 - 08:40 PM




It's a little bit early, but I wont be around at Midnight to post it. Hopefully that's ok.

#2636725 Abby Signs 7-year, 29.75 mil Extension

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 12 November 2015 - 11:56 PM


First Miller (you're wrong) and now this (you're right). You enjoy putting a target on your back, Bill. Get ready to duck.


I agree with your assessment of Holland. His success is the product of the '89 draft, Andersson, Bowman, and Nill.

Nill passed on drafting Larkin and chose Julius Honka. Honka could be really good too, but so far Holland's winning vs. Nill in drafting since he left because of this decision. 


The argument that Holland's success was due to others is one that can't be proven or disproven. There's no way that you know what happened behind closed doors so making that statement is just based on biased rather than fact. Think what you want to think.

Z will end up scoring like 70+ points this year and his cap hit is only 6 million.

Holland did well with that one. Same with the Datsyuk and Franzen deals.
Althought Franzens deal would have looked great if he actually played

No. Nill negotiated the Z deal and Datsyuk made his own deal because he's magic. Holland is responsible for Franzen's deal because people hate that guy. 

#2636619 Abby Signs 7-year, 29.75 mil Extension

Posted by xtrememachine1 on 12 November 2015 - 01:33 PM

If we didn't lock him up, somebody out there would have paid more (probably around $4.5-5 mil) and we lose him.  If we lose Abby, who creates havoc in front of the net?  Who is a physical presence on our team?  When D, Z and Kronner retire, who is looked to for veteran leadership?  You may not agree with the length or the amount, but truth is we NEED him.  When he got off to that fast start last month, he showed how much of a positive impact he can provide for our team.  Because he's a physical player, I'm a little unsure about the 7 years, but considering all the good things he does for our team, $4.25 mil per year is a GOOD deal.   You also have to take into account that $4.25 mil won't be the same 7 years from now.  The cap will continue to rise and that hit won't be as impactful.  

#2636580 Abby Signs 7-year, 29.75 mil Extension

Posted by joesuffP on 12 November 2015 - 12:03 PM

Why does everyone consider Franzen's contract some sort of failure? We got great production out of him for his cap hit and now him likely going on LTIR he has no cap hit at all. I'd say it worked out pretty well for us

#2636566 Goalie Battle

Posted by joesuffP on 12 November 2015 - 11:28 AM

Put Mrazek in against the Sharks since we always suck against them. Worked against the Caps. Weren't we like 1-7 against them previously?

#2636395 Goalie Battle

Posted by joesuffP on 11 November 2015 - 12:25 AM

Why would you want to start an argument over two goalies that are both playing as good as anybody could have hoped for. Least of our problems

#2636394 Athanasiou recalled by Red Wings

Posted by Bill Berzeench on 11 November 2015 - 12:20 AM