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#2536348 Dekeyser signed. 2 yrs $2.187 million AAV

Posted by number9 on 16 September 2014 - 05:39 PM

 

So you're complaining about some possible future complaining?  Not really a whole lot better. 

 

And you're also ignoring that you basically blamed Dekeyser for the holdup with zero  information, which is no different than those blaming Holland on no information.  

 

 

 

Had Holland made that offer you were right that it likely would've been done a month ago, but Holland wasn't offering that.  Seeing what Dekeyser signed for, it's pretty obvious that he wasn't major holdup.

 

Possible future complaining? It already started with the "He's gonna demand a ton after this deal"




#2536294 Dekeyser signed. 2 yrs $2.187 million AAV

Posted by DickieDunn on 16 September 2014 - 12:24 PM

This is ALL on Holland.  He cannot continue to believe that players should take discounts because "We Are Detroit" or they are local kids.  The ONLY players that come here for discounts or re-sign here anymore are players that either have had their longer career's here or players that cannot get signed ny anyone else, plus, for some reason, Holland OVERPAYS his useless vet's and low-balls his top talented RFA's when the market dictates otherwise.  Danny D should get and deserves to get paid like comparable RFA defensemen out there PLUS get paid better than players that are WORSE than he is.  There is no way Danny D should deservedly get less money than Kindl, Quincey OR Ericsson.  Way to treat one of the ONLY players to choose Detroit over everyone else, even if it meant passing up better places to play.  Way to show this kid, who is arguably the best defenseman you have on the team (or don't have yet) that you intend to make him feel wanted for life.  I don't blame Danny if he just hold's out as long as it takes to get a deal, then split when he is a UFA.  Holland continues to prove to everyone that his priorities are out of whack.  He needs to give Danny a similar contract to Gardiner and then deal with waiving Q or K if it comes down to re-signing Alfie at an over-inflated contract.  Danny D is going to be the leader of the future D-Corps, now is not the time to sour your relationship with him...and I wouldn't doubt that behind closed doors, the relationship is going south...I only wish my buddy still dated his sister maybe I could get some inside thoughts on their opinions of Holland's negotiation tactics now! :lol:


DD is an undrafted player with less than a full season's worth of games played who has limited offensive upside and still has work to do defensively and getting stronger. Those aren't the guys you sign to 6 year $30 mil contracts.


#2535959 Ericsson and Alfredsson not 100%

Posted by BottleOfSmoke on 11 September 2014 - 11:28 AM

The kids smell blood, like sharks. Or maybe vultures. Or maybe vulture sharks. (Vulks? Shartures?)


Definitely Shartures, because it has the word shart in it which I feel always comes in handy during a Red Wings hockey season.

I don't really see this as news--am I the only one? So, Alfie has a bad back...we knew this...and *he's not currently signed to our team*. It's literally not our problem. If Kenny wants to sign him for $6 to play 29 games I don't give a s***.

Ericsson is a little more concerning, but will it honestly affect his play *that* much (granted I don't play, and have only used a hockey stick to assault my beloved cousin around the stomach and chest area when I was 11 so please do correct me if I'm wrong). It sounds to me that more than anything, Rig has the yips about the whole situation and is bummed he didn't progress further in the time he had.

Now...if we start getting visits from the demons known as Zetterberg's Bad Back and Datsyuk's Knee of Fruit, THEN I'll start panicking about injuries. Hello darkness my old friend...


#2535944 Ericsson and Alfredsson not 100%

Posted by krsmith17 on 11 September 2014 - 10:40 AM

frankgrimes - translation - "Told you so..."

 

The more I think about it, the more worried I'm getting... I mean, I'm not so sure that Ericsson will be able to skate the same with his middle finger only at 95%... C'mon people, quit reaching...

 

And there were a lot of people that were completely okay with Alfredsson not being offered another contract this season, but now that he may not be 100% healthy, the sky is falling...




#2535936 Ericsson and Alfredsson not 100%

Posted by krsmith17 on 11 September 2014 - 09:39 AM

WTF is wrong with some people? Do you actually try to find the negative in everything just so you have something to ***** about? Ericsson stated that he will be ready to go for the first game of the season and this Alfredsson situation has been well known for months now. He is 41 years old and it has been stated numerous times that management would be happy to have him back if he decides he is healthy, even if he can only play 60-65 games. But all of a sudden the sky is falling. I swear some of you lie awake at night, hoping and preying a Red Wing gets injured just so you can say "I told you so".... Pathetic...




#2535428 Howard's new 2014-15 mask

Posted by Hockeytown0001 on 02 September 2014 - 11:26 PM

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#2535324 Expansion draft - how many players can each team protect ?

Posted by RyanBarnes! on 01 September 2014 - 02:09 PM

 
I'd say they'd protect Mrazek. Can't really see an expansion team drafting Howard.

I think Howard would be exactly what any expansion team is looking for. He is a very reliable veteran goalie.


#2535151 potential team names for las vegas!

Posted by F.Michael on 29 August 2014 - 09:09 AM

How about the 'Quebec Nordiques'?

 

oops - wrong thread




#2534934 Holland signs 4 year extension with wings **MOD Warning Post 130**

Posted by vladdy16 on 26 August 2014 - 09:37 AM

It's great to make the playoffs, but let's win some Cups... Yes, 23 years in a row is AMAZING, but the Blackhawks have 2 Cups in their current run, the Kings have 2 Cups in their current run. Yes, we have 4 during ours and 6 appearances. Remember, in our first six years of the streak, we had 0 Cups and only 1 appearance... Creating an elite, winning culture is great and maintaining it will be increasingly difficult in the current NHL. I question whether of not Holland is the guy to do it. Look at how Yzerman has adapted in Tampa Bay or at how Nill has adapted in Dallas, why hasn't Detroit made any changes?

 

 

 

I don't think anyone is arguing against constructive criticism, but the absolute vitriol that spews on this board sometimes usually is frustrating most all level-headed fans and we're getting a little trigger happy.

 

Another thing I'm getting a little tired of is comparing Holland to Yzerman and/or Nill.  Apples and oranges.  The Lightening and Stars had almost nowhere to go but up to begin with.  They also aren't facing the same adversity as Holland - little cap space and an unwillingness to trade with the Wings.  These are pretty sizable barriers to contend with.  Also, neither has the pressure from the fans that the Wings organization has.  I'm not a Holland fanboy by any means, but let's be reasonable.

And since neither Nill or Yzerman is available to Detroit, what's a better option than Holland at this point?




#2534586 Candiens, P.K. Subban agree to 8 year contract

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 19 August 2014 - 07:43 PM

@theScore: Kovalev is unsure why P.K. Subban is worth $72M: 'He plays like he did on streets as a child.' http://t.co/GoV5aINrNn http://t.co/AFKZPl1Rq8

SHOTS FIRED

 

It's pretty hilarious that Kovalev of all people would call out a player.  Especially the part about scoring 5 goals but allowing 5 goals.  Maybe check your career +/- there Alex.  The guy embodied the lazy Russian stereotype when he played.  

 

I guess he's not been getting enough attention lately? 




#2534250 Holland signs 4 year extension with wings **MOD Warning Post 130**

Posted by Dabura on 14 August 2014 - 12:42 PM

I'm ok with this.




#2534070 Helmer: First one to get a herniated disc in the new Season?

Posted by kipwinger on 12 August 2014 - 08:19 AM

Booooooring.  Tomas Tatar could do that drunk.




#2534054 Alfie wants to play

Posted by gcom007 on 11 August 2014 - 10:54 PM

I have no problem with us signing Daniel Alfredsson.

 

I don't think we would've made the playoffs without him last year. I think he ran out of gas for awhile after the Olympics, but Kronwall wasn't firing on all cylinders either and he's a good deal younger. It was a long run for the Swedes. If the rest of the team can stay healthier and we can give him some calculated rest now and again this year, and with no Olympics to further muddle things up, I think Alfie stands to have a more impressive year this year, and I say that as someone who thought highly of his contribution last season. He was still an effective player most of the time, he put up points, and provided strong leadership when our big leaders went down. 

 

While it would've been a different story had Dats and Z not been injured, the fact of the matter remains that even at his older age, even given his own injury issues that hampered him throughout the season, even given that he missed 14 games, and even given that he had an extended cold-streak when he was running on empty after the Olympics, he still ended up being our points leader last year while going on to become a locker room leader in the second half that all those kids that exploded pointed to again and again for stepping up when Dats and Z went down.

 

If we're going to be signing older players, Alfie is the kind we should be signing. When people talk about wanting Ken Holland to stop signing older scrubs, I generally am very much in agreement. But the thing is, Alfredsson never has been and never will be an old scrub. Signing him should never be compared to signing someone like Cleary. It's genuinely irritating to me that anyone would even try to suggest that we're dealing with the same type of player and circumstance here when by any objective measure there's clearly a night and day difference. Alfie isn't as effective as he was ten years ago, most obviously, but he is still an effective player who contributes on the scoresheet and leads, all while providing the kind of veteran presence that you absolutely do want to have around on a team that's getting younger.

 

Just because Holland made a mistake in signing Dan Cleary again doesn't mean he should make another mistake and not sign Alfie if Alfie decides that he can play.

 

Again, I have no problem with Alfie coming back, and while I'm certainly not holding my breath, I hope that somehow this ragtag team can pull off a miracle for him. He's a class act and nothing would make me happier next season than seeing him win his first Cup so he can go out on top. Never lose hope, right?




#2533897 Predictions for the DRW 2014-15 Season!

Posted by number9 on 07 August 2014 - 11:55 PM

Well you saw kips post an do agree with him. The wings are missing so much on free agents and trades it's not even funny. But yes they're great at drafting but you can't win just via the draft. At some point some prospects need to be moved.

Trading jarnkrok was fine but only for a rental? That's not fine.

Since we can't get free agents we need to make a trade. Some of the guys being trades we should be on. Guys like Ryan and spezza etc etc.

 

Oh f*** you Mother f***** posting this s*** at 1 am when I'm good and drunk. I'll deal with you tomorrow after 5 pm when honest Americans have the reasonable ability.




#2533892 Predictions for the DRW 2014-15 Season!

Posted by number9 on 07 August 2014 - 11:25 PM

 

It wouldn't be like buying anything because they're your prospects, you didn't pay for them.  Also, selling makes sense when you've got so many other (tvs?) that these ones will never get used.  Also, quality guys get traded for unproven prospects and picks (in packages) all the time.  Bobby Ryan did.  So did Thomas Vanek.  Just to name two in the last year.  Package them with a top six forward and you could have Marian Gaborik or Jason Spezza or James Van Riemsdyk. 

 

Again, I'm not saying just throw guys away.  But I'm sick of everybody acting like the future of the Red Wings is hanging precariously in the balance, and should we move Backman, or Pulkkinen, or Tatar, or Nyquist, or Quellet, we'll all of a sudden become the Florida Panthers.  We won't.  Just so long as we don't move ALL of them. 

 

Saying that drafting and developing is the key to success does not mean that you can never, EVER, move a homegrown talent lest the organization crash and burn.  Just move them intelligently (e.g. not for David Legwand). 

 

Well see I trust management, whereas many of you don't. I'm going to be fine with the Legwand-Ironhook trade until Calle makes it big in the NHL. I like to think management knew what they were doing there.

 

I think once Mantha, Athanasiou, Marchenko, Pulkkinen, Ouellet, and Sproul (or a combination of others) officially join the team, and they are what we thought they would be. Then the trades you want will be made.

 

The Wings play REAL tight to the vest, and as a business man I operate the same way. IMO it's smart and minimizes risk, even if you lose some product in prospects who can't grace your system. All that means is that you're getting the best of the best.