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#2518327 Red Wings expect changes for 2014 - 2015

Posted by rick zombo on 30 April 2014 - 08:27 AM

I have a question. After seeing how smith played with kronwall(great for those who may struggle with the answer).

And we still have Ericsson and dekeyser so WHY DO WE NEED A TOP 4?!?!??!???

Unless someone is planning to be moved? I mean I'd like a right handed guy but this kind of blows my mind.

 

We need a righty that can score on the PP and move the puck.




#2518216 Ken Holland Quotes (Apr 29th

Posted by rick zombo on 29 April 2014 - 02:50 PM

 

Hossa was offered the deal first, he rejected his, Franzen was offered a similar (but less financially lucrative) deal and accepted immediately. Is Hossa the better player? Clearly yes, but he was option #1 and he wanted to see if he could get more money. Franzen was the back-up option.

 

 

This. This. This. This. This.

 

A tousand times over. I'm actually blown away that this never gets talked about more.




#2518212 Ken Holland Quotes (Apr 29th

Posted by rick zombo on 29 April 2014 - 02:30 PM

 

This quote is very interesting, does it mean Babs might be gone in a couple years and Holland doesn't want to lose Blashill? I also don't like the idea of Holland blocking Blashill from a possibly better opportunity somewhere else, I don't think its professional. 

 

Maybe Holland's sick of losing all his personel to other teams? As happy as I am for Nill, MacLean, McLellan, etc for thier new opportunities over the last few years, other teams' scavenging of the Detroit organization is getting old and frustrating, in a hurry.




#2518207 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by rick zombo on 29 April 2014 - 02:08 PM

 

Holland has done a marvelous job over the years nobody is denying that but I'm questioning if he has still the fire, drive to go with a changed landscape ? Nobody other than himself can answer this question, the league has changed teams have to bring a heavy, physical game alongside skill now more than ever.

 

 

so this is also his summer to show the fans and everyone in the league that he is still the top guy or at least on pair with guys like Chiarelli, Lombardi, Poile and Shero.

 

frank.

 

Generally I agree with everything you've just said. Except for these two points above. And it's not that I don't agree, rather, I don't think they're 100% fair.

 

1. Going back to 2003 vs the Ducks up until now (highlighting 2007 matchups vs Calgary, San Jose, and Anahiem in particular) Wings fans have been screaming that we need to get bigger and tougher. Hell, when we were winning Presidents Trophies, this was to only and often cited criticism of the team (other than goaltending). We won the cup in 2008 followed by a highly skilled and not physically dominant Penguins team in 2009. The next four years was 50-50. Two big strong teams (Boston and LA) won and a highly skilled Blackhawks team won twice. Four of the last six cups were won by "skill-first" teams.

 

Chicago could very well repeat this year. Or Montreal could beat Boston. Or Colorado could go deep. Do we now focus on being small and fast? Know what I mean?

 

2. In his 16 years as Red Wings GM, Holland has never had a pick higher than 17th overall. The GMs you mentioned are all beneficiaries of the draft lottery. This is a huge deal. Since then, most of these GMs just have to make roster tweaks (much like Holland did in 2006 and 2007). But there is no question, they've all had way more to work with. I'd like to see what someone like Shero would do with Hollands skimpy resources.




#2518192 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by rick zombo on 29 April 2014 - 01:20 PM

I think it's easy to look at this season, perhaps the last two or so, and feel as if Kenny dropped the ball. Personally, I hate all the vet signing he's made. I think the Quincey trade was a big mistake. I feel as if he should listen to Babcock about certain aspects of this team (there seems to be some definite friction). I think he should have trusted the kids a bit more. If Jarnkrok stays in North America, I'm sour about that trade as well. It's easy to be upset with Kenny right now.

On the flip side, it's hard to argue against the drafting this team has done since 2008 - Kenny hanging onto all those picks has paid off. The team couldn't lure Parise-Suter over, but I don't think the blame can solely lie on Kenny shoulder's for that. It's a combination of destination, coaching and desired teammates. Maybe the team overestimate the allure of playing here, and they're realizing now that they're going to have to overpay to land a big name. That's reality now.

I think this team is in a good position to make some real changes. They've got cap space, some reliable older players and a cupboard full of prospects knocking on the door. Now if in the next 2-3 seasons he pushes this youth movement, makes a trade and can sign a big free agent or two, he redeems himself in my eyes. We have several assets - prospects can be flipped and some picks can be moved for legitimate players. Kenny has cards to play with now, and I'd like to see him actually play. Dropping the ball here would definitely sway me to the, "Good-Bye Kenny" side, but I'd also like to see what he does in this (favorable) situation.

 

This last part is spot on, and basically how I feel. Well said.




#2518184 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by rick zombo on 29 April 2014 - 12:51 PM

 

I don't think Holland has done anything for the team. I think it's been other people and Holland getting more credit than he deserves. Bowman was still here with Holland even when we won in 08. Since Bowman left, everything has fallen to s***.

 

Holland's done plenty of good things. And some bad. Just like Bowman. Just like pretty much everyone who has dipped a toe in NHL waters.

 

Around these parts, I would argue he doesn't get enough credit. I tend to try and evaluate his work over larger periods of time that, IMO, have yet to expire.




#2518173 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by rick zombo on 29 April 2014 - 12:35 PM

 

Don't try to call someone out when you don't even know that BOWMAN WAS A COACH!

 

Also, don't put down Bowman. All he ever does is win.

Montreal.

Pittsburgh.

Detroit.

Chicago.

 

 

Of course I know Bowman was af****** coach.

 

I assumed, since you were evaluating Holland as a GM, that you were comparing him to Bowman when he had assumed brief GM duties (or player personal or whatever vague position he had along with being the coach) with the Wings back in the 90s.

 

As it turns out, you were comparing Holland the GM to Bowman the coach? Is that what you were doing? Why? Why would you do that?

 

And also, it is true that the Illitches had to intervene when Bowman (who was acting as GM) had all but traded Yzerman for Yashin back in 1994 or 1995. That would have probably meant ZERO cups for us over the last 20 years. So yeah, don't tell me what to do. I'll put Bowman down if I want. He's not infallible.

 

How about you not put down Holland? How do you like that for an order?




#2518151 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by rick zombo on 29 April 2014 - 10:48 AM

 

Dang.  Why so acrimonious man?  Everything alright at home?


 

And probably right out of Kenny's price range as well.  Not that we couldn't afford it mind you...

 

Because I'm getting tired of logging on the LGWings and seeing people's negative opinions over and over and over. To the point where we're now making assumptions on Holland's mental and emotional disposition?

 

And I like coming here. So I don't plan on stopping. And I ignore lots of posts, but sometimes I just can't.




#2517956 Was Legwand worth it?

Posted by rick zombo on 28 April 2014 - 10:41 AM

In 7 years, when the streak has reached 30, and Jarnkrok is back in Sweeden, we'll all look back fondly on this trade :w00t:




#2517950 Injury Updates

Posted by rick zombo on 28 April 2014 - 10:26 AM

^ Wonderful post ^




#2517939 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by rick zombo on 28 April 2014 - 09:46 AM

 

I'm not a GM. He is. I'm allowed to have fun on CapGeek.

Also, that roster is much improved. Borders on finishing 4-5 not 8-9. 

Plus we'd get another top player for trading Howard and Nyquist. Maybe a Yandle or someone.

I love people like you. Get all sarcastic and hide behind their computer. Mr. Tough Guy. Are you Tatar in disguise?

 

Yes, you've said that already.




#2517870 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by rick zombo on 28 April 2014 - 12:17 AM

 

If you want to build your team around Nyq and Tatar go ahead. See you in the Draft, Edmonton #2


 

Then he better take a big discount. Like 3 a year or less. We need more important pieces than a soft and old Alfie. 

 

We need to trade for great players.

 

Ah yes. Why didn’t I realize that? 

 

“Hey everybody. It’s all good. Relax. Holland just has to trade for some great players and everything will be fine"

 

:lol:




#2517855 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by rick zombo on 27 April 2014 - 11:04 PM

Helen St. James is usually just an echo of Holland. As in, she usually just repeats things he tells her. 

 

This is important to understand because she indicating that the only UFA the Wings are concerned about bringing back is Alfredsson. 

 

http://www.freep.com...ngs-free-agents

 

I tend to agree with this. 




#2515646 ECQF - Game 4 - Bruins 3 at Red Wings 2 (F/OT)

Posted by rick zombo on 24 April 2014 - 10:48 PM

nyquist and tatar have been absolutely useless.

 

Much like Datsyuk and Zetterberg were early in their careers. 




#2515641 Wings Roster great on paper ?

Posted by rick zombo on 24 April 2014 - 10:45 PM

i just thought that if our roster was fully fit and all the guys were in their prime days it wouldn't be too bad, 

in fact it could probably go all the way. this is what Kenny was probably thinking............. :confused:

 

Zetterberg  Datsyuk  Alfredsson

 

Samuelsson  Legwand  Bertuzzi

 

Franzen  Weiss  Cleary

 

Abdelkader  Helm  Tootoo

 

 

Kronwall  Ericsson

 

DeKeyser  Smith

 

Quincey  Kindl

 

Howard Gustavsson

 

 

 

 

Wha? Are you saying Kenny was probably thinking Sammy, Bert, and Cleary were still in their prime days? 

 

Because I guarantee he wasn’t thinking that.

 

And right now, on paper, that roster sucks ***.