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#2636821 Abby Signs 7-year, 29.75 mil Extension

Posted by rick zombo on 13 November 2015 - 02:40 PM


They don't have anything to do with Abby and the extension but I will say this: 4 years and less to completely rebuild their teams and now look at Tampa and Dallas. The Captain and Nil have done a tremendous job and if we are only looking at the last 4 years yes better than Holland.


I don't know why people are bitching so much about Abby yeah the contract is on the higher side but so what? Mr. I is worth around 5 billion and the cap keeps going up it's not like Holland is paying him 6 mill over 7 years.


Nill missed the playoffs last year and "The Captain" has an unsigned Stamkos and an 8-8-2 record to start this season. Holland made the playoffs every year since being named GM and is 8-6-2 so far this year without one of the league's best players.


I don't even know why I'm bothering to say this  s***.

#2636820 Pulkkinen fined for diving

Posted by rick zombo on 13 November 2015 - 02:34 PM

Dang, I wonder if fans from other teams are going to start saying the Wings are divers the way we say it about means like Boston, Vancouver, and San Jose?  Maybe they always have. 


If they do, I'm just going to start saying that Babcock created that culture to get a competetive edge and in an attempt to get that one PP goal he needed in order to win a game 2-1. Babcock's gone now and it's taking some of the guys a little time to adjust to Blashill's more ethical style of play.


Yeah, that sounds good. ;)

#2636809 Abby Signs 7-year, 29.75 mil Extension

Posted by rick zombo on 13 November 2015 - 01:44 PM


That's right, he was only the Assistant GM when Shanahan was acquired.  I guess I was exaggerating a bit. He wasn't responsible for ALL of the Hall of Famers that played for Detroit during that period.  Just most of them. 


Exactly. Get it right :lol:


And we all know that being an assistant GM means jack squat around these parts unless you're Holland's assistant GM. Then you're the real mastermind.

#2636801 Abby Signs 7-year, 29.75 mil Extension

Posted by rick zombo on 13 November 2015 - 01:24 PM


Make the playoffs for the last five years.  Bottom half of GMs.  Lol.  Only on LGW. 


Because of Babcock. Who was hired by Devallano because Nill told him too.

Again, just to clarify.  Holland "took over" a team full of Hall of Famers that HE DRAFTED.  And then he acquired like 5 more Hall of Famers.  The only Hall of Famer he had nothing to do with was Yzerman. 


And Shanahan. Bowman orchestrated that deal. Using Primeau, who Holland drafted, as an asset.

#2636798 Abby Signs 7-year, 29.75 mil Extension

Posted by rick zombo on 13 November 2015 - 01:13 PM


First Holland is in the bottom half of GMs in the last 5 years. Too many defenders use his past to defend him, but in sports yesterday is meaningless. It's today that counts. We have to ask ourselves today is this team likely to contend for a cup? And if not are they likely to in the near future (next 5 years). The answer to both of these questions so far is a resounding NO. The team lacks a lot of pieces that are necessary to compete for a cup, and the pieces they have are either getting close to retirement age (Kronwall, Datsyuk, Zetterberg), or are too young to make an impact big enough to replace those who will retire. This is made worse by the fact that Holland has overpaid for replaceable players, which teams like Chicago have shown are exactly the type you can flip for younger cheaper players.


Until Holland does anything to show he's fallen into bubble team complacency he is a mediocre GM as it stands today.


LOL Holland's in the bottom half of NHL GMs in the last 5 years? GTFO.


Anyway, I thought you only came out of your cave to post in game day threads, specifially when the team's losing.

#2636792 Abby Signs 7-year, 29.75 mil Extension

Posted by rick zombo on 13 November 2015 - 12:54 PM

We passed on PK SuSubn twice. Im not blaming any of our drafting misses on Holland. Im not giving him credit for the hits either, though. I will admit the point about him having good people around him is a credit to him is more than valid. Its a great point. I just believe he fell ass backwords into having great people around him. Devellano is widely creditex for Feds, Lids, Konstantinov, etc. Andersson is widely credited for Darlts, Z, etc. Holland has just been in the right chair for 20 years. Now that the help is almost all gone, Holland's lack of ability is sticking out like a sore thumb. The hometown discount is gone (Abby), and Holland overpays for crappy old injury prone vets on a regular basis (too many to name in the last 5 years). Ken Holland is exposed now.


You could say that about any NHL GM.


Yzerman? He inherited Hedman and Stamkos.

Nill? He wasn't the genius that drafted Benn and Klingberg in the 5th rounds.


Sure, Holland took over a team full of future HOFers but that was 17 years ago. And the man hasn't had a bad season by any NHL GM's standards EVER. Who even compares? Sather? Lamoriello? They had their share of terrible failure years and made some crappy moves and signings. How about lil' Bowman? He may be enjoying sexy times right now (big thanks to Dale Talon) but let's talk about him in 10 years.


Holland may not have been the best GM last week or in June of this year or two minutes ago, but he is, generally speaking one of the 5 best GMs in the NHL right now, and the best GM over the last 20 years. I M O.

#2636569 Day to Day Practice thread

Posted by rick zombo on 12 November 2015 - 11:40 AM

Completely agree. It's been a short sample size of course and he could always regress when teams start game planning around their line. Interesting note here.....


Ansar Khan @AnsarKhanMLive 21s22 seconds ago

Tempers flared in practice as Pulkkinen went after Smith and had to be restrained by teammates.




Brendan f******  Smith.

#2636539 Abby Signs 7-year, 29.75 mil Extension

Posted by rick zombo on 12 November 2015 - 08:56 AM

The only problem with this deal is that there's not TWO Abdlekaders for Holland to re-sign.

#2636517 11/10 GDT : Washington Capitals at Red Wings, 7:30 EST

Posted by rick zombo on 12 November 2015 - 12:18 AM

At least 3 of OV's 15 shots would have gone in on Jimmy. FLAME WAR!!!!!!

#2636446 Goalie Battle

Posted by rick zombo on 11 November 2015 - 12:38 PM

both our goalies are top 10 in the league in save% for goalies who have started in at least 5 games.  Pretty awesome stuff

That is awesome, and hopefully sustainable. Because with this team's terrible possession numbers and shot differential, the goalies' play is obviously covering up that stench a bit.

If the team can straighten this out and continue to get great goaltending they might be dangerous.

#2636183 11/10 GDT : Washington Capitals at Red Wings, 7:30 EST

Posted by rick zombo on 10 November 2015 - 06:02 PM

I'll concede to Ovechkin breaking the record tonight (I mean, he's going to do it super soon anyway) just so long as the Wings win. 

#2636159 Athanasiou recalled by Red Wings

Posted by rick zombo on 10 November 2015 - 01:36 PM

Wonder what's going on in Mantha's head.


Larkin in NHL since day one.


AA called up. 


Hopefully it's something like: "I need to work my ballz off".

#2636147 Day to Day Practice thread

Posted by rick zombo on 10 November 2015 - 12:33 PM

I love the snotty attitude. As if you are the final decision on right and wrong. Let me play along Zombo style: Good Call. We've been doing SOOOO well with Miller blocking all those shots. The penalty kill MUST be first in the league, and Miller MUST have a huge + in plus/minus. And why on earth would we want to put a big guy on every line? Jurco-Shehan-Abdelkader as the 4th line, and then lets roll with 9 smaller guys in the top 9. Our offense is so dynamic right now, so who needs a forecheck or dirty goals? And last, Good call on your overall critiquing of others' proposed changes. We've won so many Stanley Cups and have had so much playoff success since 2009. Why would anyone want to try anything different.

Hogwash, dude. Read the post above yours, Zombo. You dont have to agree with me. But please offer an opposing argument that makes sense instead of your irrelevant and unfunny sarcasm.

I agree. I dont like line 3 either, but thats the best we have now. That line REALLY needs developed Mantha instead of Pulkinnen, but Mantha isnt strong enough yet to be a force in the corners. Do you think we should bring him up?


If you're going to play along "Zombo Style" you could start by not sounding like a ranting over-zealous fan-boy.

#2636136 Day to Day Practice thread

Posted by rick zombo on 10 November 2015 - 12:00 PM

Spread the talent. Larkin, Datsyuk, Sheahan, Helm down the middle.


That 12 would be hard to keep up with.


Good call. Jurco 100% has earned a spot on Datsyuk's line. Also, I can't wait to see Athanasiou blocking all those shots meant for Miller. If we're lucky, he'll break his ankle or something because that's exactly what he needs to truly complete his development.

#2636087 Firebirds players quit after coaches fired

Posted by rick zombo on 09 November 2015 - 03:58 PM

Coaches have been re-hired with three year extensions  :lol: