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#2686109 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by LeftWinger on 19 September 2016 - 11:57 AM

Found on Erica Ott's twitter page @EricaRene4  Steve Ott's 8th grade "ideal self" poster he made up. This is why he is an honorary member of the Michigan Mafia. Got to love him!

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#2685895 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by LeftWinger on 15 September 2016 - 07:56 AM

I still feel Vanek needs to get top 6. Problem is, your 3rd line will consist of Sheahan and Helm. Not the most offensive minded line mates. So putting any offensively minded shooter (Vanek, Nyquist, Tatar) would seriously hinder their output. IMO those two should be 4th line with Glendening, eliminating the need for Miller and or Ott. I could enjoy a bottom 6 of:

Nyquist - AA - Mantha
Sheahan- Glendening - Helm

Not that I'm a Helm fan all of a sudden, but he's here, signed and at that price needs to play and earn his salary.

Top 6:

Tatar - Nielsen - Vanek
Zetterberg - Larkin - Abby

Jurco and Pulkkinen can be dealt with when they're healthy. If Frk impresses in camp, I'd send Miller to GR and keep Frk and Ott up.


#2685781 Whose autograph is this? Can someone help me?

Posted by LeftWinger on 11 September 2016 - 11:23 AM

Rick, is that you? You sure you don't want to call a friend of yours in and verify the autograph? :lol:




#2685739 2016 World Cup of Hockey thread

Posted by LeftWinger on 10 September 2016 - 04:12 AM

Doesn't matter who wins, the Anthem played will be "We Are The World."

...Kaepernick and Rapinoe won't honor that one either...


#2685591 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by LeftWinger on 06 September 2016 - 02:54 PM

Agreed. I wasn't talking about that proposal, I was talking about certain other proposals including 5-7 assets going out and 1-2 coming back... If Nyquist, D prospect(s), pick(s) got us Trouba I'd do it all day. I wouldn't make that same trade for Fowler though...

 

I agree, if that would work, that would be great for Trouba, but I believe, once he gets shopped around, that another team will offer something better than Nyquist for Trouba. I'd overpay for both, just to beat out the other teams...

 

Mantha, XO (or Sproul) 1st, 3rd for Trouba is overpayment, but not many other teams would want to match that. It could happen, but I think Winnipeg would jump at that deal.

 

We would miss Mantha, but getting Trouba in return makes up for that because he is near the same age, yet has a lot of NHL experience.  Another reason we wouldn't miss XO or Sproul.  They need a 3rd pairing guy with a relatively small salary, so XO or Sproul would help them.  The 1st and 3rd I don't think we'd miss at all.  I fully believe we are again a playoff team (especially if we acquired Trouba, even more so if we also added Fowler) so that 1st, once again, would be around #17-#24 I'm thinking.  The 3rd is the 3rd.  We wouldn't miss those, I believe, because we have players now that we have no room for, that are ready, and soon we'll have even more ready.  I think one year of not having a 1st wouldn't kill this team's reload.  Again, I firmly believe with Vanek and Nielsen and Larkin getting more ice time, Z getting less, this team will finish much higher in the standings. Z will last longer with less icetime too.

 

Nyquist, Smith, conditional pick for Fowler. Again, overpayment? Maybe, but we'd have to open up another spot on D for both Trouba and Fowler, plus open up cap space to sign Trouba.  Nyquist could be replaced with AA while Pulk and Jurco are out.  If I wanted to collect some more later round picks, I could try to shop one of/or both Pulk and Jurco to get a couple more 4th-7th rounders. 

 

Holland created this jam up front to shop for a d-man, he knows he'll have to move a few assets sooner or later so he doesn't have to waive anyone.  I'm sure he felt that prices weren't going to be so high, but IMO, losing Mantha, Smith, XO (or Sproul,) Nyquist and the picks is not gutting the roster if you are getting back Trouba and Fowler, PLUS opening a spot for AA to be on the team.

 

It would take some doing to work it out under the cap, but it could work and we'd be a better team.  I only wish it would happen, because we have no idea what Holland would offer, or what Winnipeg and Anaheim would ask for.  I'd balk on trading AA for either of them. Larkin is a no trade, as is Mrazek and DD. ANd with the history of all GM's trying to rape Holland, I am sure one of those 4 names would be asked for from both teams, so we'll probably be out of luck in acquiring either of them...

 

I'd trade anyone from the team, except Larkin, DD, Mrazek and AA.


BTW, did y'all know that Sproul has not re-signed yet? He is an RFA and is probably holding out for some similar guarantees that Trouba wants.  Like guaranteed to make the club, and get some playing time or sign and trade him to a team that will play him.

 

Did he or the team got file arbitration does anyone know?




#2685252 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by LeftWinger on 31 August 2016 - 02:42 PM

Wish Larkin would switch to 17 and I hope Mantha goes with 39.


#2685222 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by LeftWinger on 31 August 2016 - 04:41 AM

Holland didn't make the Shanahan deal. He wasn't GM yet. But your point is taken and agreed with.


#2684911 AA

Posted by LeftWinger on 17 August 2016 - 04:00 PM

AA should be playing. Period.


#2684808 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by LeftWinger on 14 August 2016 - 02:52 PM

No to trading AA. period. End discussion.


#2684805 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by LeftWinger on 14 August 2016 - 12:20 PM

We're calling Jurco and Smith offensive guys now? Based on what? Everyone is so good at pointing out the problems with the team without providing any better solution

We can't score so play Smith and Jurco more who also can't score... Rock solid logic


If I recall, when he was in the lineup, Smith did very well for himself last season. If we aren't getting a dman, I say put Smith on the top pair with DD.

Jurco needs to be used correctly. He is an offensive threat. But not on the 4th line with Miller and Glendening. When he was with Sheahan and Tatar he did very well. I'd love to see a line of JURCO-AA-MANTHA.

Will we though?  :brow:


Shhhhhhhhhh!


#2684776 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by LeftWinger on 13 August 2016 - 01:56 PM

Everyday I come here and don't see a trade pinned to the top I get more and more sick to my stomach.


#2684710 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by LeftWinger on 11 August 2016 - 11:32 PM

I'm a huge Holland critic. But remember before we won in 97? We had a core of young players growing together, learning together. Remember when Yzerman was traded in 94 until Mrs. I put the cabash on it? Remember when we signed aging vets like Bob rouse, Mike Ramsey, acquired a past his prime Mike Vernon, remember trading for a 35 year old igor larionov and a 36 year old fetisov? Remember claiming a 30 year Doug brown off the waiver wire? 35 year old Larry Murphy who seemed to be done after failing miserably in Toronto. How about 32 year old Joe kocur out of the beer league?

You have to grow a core, you have to influx that with vets. Not a big fan of Helm, but he's obviously part of our core...

I wish Holland would make a deal for a D man, but I think he is doing it very similar to the early 90's.


#2684707 Patrick Roy steps down as Head Coach and VP of Hockey Operations

Posted by LeftWinger on 11 August 2016 - 11:16 PM

I'll remember Roy for 3 reasons...11 goals, getting his ass kicked, 7 goals.


#2684668 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by LeftWinger on 11 August 2016 - 12:55 PM

Having a motivated Nielsen and Vanek has got to be better than an unmotivated Datsyuk. I wish we were giving AA 3rd line minutes though...


#2684595 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by LeftWinger on 09 August 2016 - 06:02 PM

Don Cherry the jazz player, because the other one can't very well roll over in his grave yet...😆