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#2561417 Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

Posted by Buppy on 07 January 2015 - 07:47 PM

Smith and Kindl hardly seems like enough for Colorado to give up O'Reilly.


And I wouldn't give up Smith, Pulkkinen, and a 2nd for Myers. Sure he's big and RH, but he's not very physical, not much of a shot blocker, and his offense has pretty much declined every year. Probably get better production from Pulkkinen on the point.

#2561105 1/6 GDT : Red Wings 4 at Edmonton Oilers 2

Posted by sjr2012 on 06 January 2015 - 10:27 PM

I think we need to start thinking about possibly benching a few ppl in order to spice things up hell if cleary brings more than franzen give him a shot why not?

#2561104 1/6 GDT : Red Wings 4 at Edmonton Oilers 2

Posted by darkmanx on 06 January 2015 - 10:26 PM

Tatar and Weiss looked like our best players.

#2560972 1/6 GDT : Red Wings 4 at Edmonton Oilers 2

Posted by rick zombo on 06 January 2015 - 03:25 PM

If Franzen doesn't put in an effort tonight I'd like them to seriously consider this for tomorrow's game vs the Flames


Nyquist - Zetterberg - Abdlekader

Weiss - Datsyuk - Helm

Tatar - Sheahan - Jurco

Miller - Glendenning - Andersson

#2560865 Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

Posted by rick zombo on 06 January 2015 - 10:59 AM


If I were Holland I would demand that Weiss demand a trade.  He's played well enough to have value again, and god knows we're not using him for anything.  Weiss, Smith, and a 2nd (all available per this Khan article as none are in the top 9 or 4) might get you something good.  Lol.


That's the saddest thing about the Weiss situation IMO. This time two months ago we were all clamoring on about how "done" he was. He faced some adversity with his health, and did/said all the right things to get himself back on the roster. AND THEN he produced. So, within this context, I would loooooove to know what he's doing wrong, or more specifically, what someone like Franzen is doing better.

#2560148 12/31 GDT : Devils 1 at Red Wings 3

Posted by Detroit # 1 Fan on 01 January 2015 - 04:47 PM

Anyone that questions Weiss' importance to this team, check our record with him vs without him. *drops mic*

#2559428 Oilers schedule presser tomorrow

Posted by e_prime on 28 December 2014 - 11:45 AM


I don't see why not.  Hell, throw Q in there to sweetin the pot up. I always said Helm would automatically become their best defensive forward plus he'd be an upgrade at the center position behind Hopkins.  K, Q and Helm for Petry and a 2nd round pick.


I get that trading Helm allows us to bring up Pulks and that trading Q allows us to keep XO up, but I think that's a tad bit of an overpayment.  Although that 2nd round pick would be quite nice the way EDM is trending.

#2559423 Oilers schedule presser tomorrow

Posted by e_prime on 28 December 2014 - 11:09 AM

why the hell would edm do that even they aren't desperate enough for Hiccup Kindl


Why not?


They continue to struggle...

MacT doesn't have the balls to trade Hall, or Eberle, or RNH...

He doesn't even have the balls to trade Yak. 

Petry and Perron have been on the block all season and yet here they are still on the team.


If he's desperate to keep his job... He'll move guys that don't want to be there for guys he can keep there... if not by choice, but by current contract.


They are that desperate. Nine losses in a row. Their last win was Dec 7th.  They haven't strung together a winning streak of any sort this year. The last time they won back to back games was all the way back to Nov 7th. 

A month at a time for a win. (...or if they're lucky two.)


They need an upgrade of any sort at C behind RNH.

Boyd Gordon isn't a second line center. Draisaitl is a frigging child.

They need better D.  Schultz is the lone bright spot. He needs help.

They need better goaltending.

How Bachman hasn't gotten a chance is beyond me...


Have I stated clearly enough how desperate they should be?


So let me restate the case for Kindl to EDM for Petry:


Does Petry for Kindl straight up happen? Sure. Why not?

MacT knows that Petry is not going to re-sign in Edmonton next year... he trades him for Kindl who's signed for another two years for a reasonable price... He's doing something... ANYTHING.

It shows the league, "Hey, MacT is ready to make some moves...  EDM is open for business."


To make things even more clear, because I know it's the stumbling block for all of you: 


Just because Kindl is our whipping boy doesn't mean he's completely worthless.

There. I said it. He isn't. 

Is he great? No, but he's just one piece in a multitude of issues that exist on our defense.

#1281411 Who Is the Hottest Jennifer?

Posted by Lou_Siffer on 15 March 2008 - 08:48 PM

Im not really nuts at all over either. I knows she's getting old but i'd still take Jennifer Aniston all day over both, she used to be in my top 5.

#2558102 12/19 GDT : Islanders 2 at Red Wings 1

Posted by e_prime on 20 December 2014 - 03:49 PM

I just read some random facebook comment that there is a Franzen for Hall trade in the works with the Oilers. He said look it up. I did'nt bother. That's just insane, but the Oilers management is pretty dumb...lol




That would be tremendous! LOL! Here we go! Franzen, Helm, Smith, Pulkkinen and rights to Backman for Hall, Petry.

See... see what you've done.  Just great... You've gotten his hopes up "chaps."  Thanks a wholef****** lot. :nono:

#2558015 12/19 GDT : Islanders 2 at Red Wings 1

Posted by GoWings1905 on 19 December 2014 - 10:35 PM

Yes we lost cause of Franzen.

Not exclusively because of Franzen obviously, but it would be nice if he could contribute anything offensively for a team struggling to score goals. Because what else does Franzen bring when he isn't a goal-scorer? 0 goals in 13 games and a minus 9 is atrocious. That's not streaky -- it's not competing hard enough as a player.

#2557503 Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

Posted by kipwinger on 18 December 2014 - 10:44 AM

Zetterberg and Datysuk will never be traded. Ever.

In order to get Hall, Detroit would have to overpay if they're just offering mainly prospects and futures. Especially since we don't really have a young proven stud defenceman.

Start with Nyquist + Mantha + Mrasek +...



Jesus. I'd almost have to start cheering for the Oilers.


Nobody would get that.  Think of all the high profile players that get traded, and NONE of them went for a package of a teams best young scorer and two top prospects.  None of Spezza, Kesler, Ryan, Seguin, Nash, Gaborik, Iginla, Carter, etc. etc. etc.  moved for a package like that.  None.  So why would anybody think that's what it would take to get Hall?  Because he's so much better?  He isn't. 


Everybody always thinks that to get a good player the Wings would have to give the world.  But the very fact that a guy is being traded means his value is diminished.  The only guys that would require Nyquist, Mantha, Mrazek TOO START are truly elite guys (Toews, Crosby, Malkin, Stamkos).  And those guys don't get traded. 

#2557330 12/16 GDT : Blue Jackets 1 at Red Wings 0 (SO)

Posted by gowings00 on 16 December 2014 - 10:21 PM

Jimmy is not athletic at all and that's what you need to stop guys with skill. That's why the "Jimmy is average" folks keep getting upset. He just can't stop those guys at his best but it has nothing to do with his work ethic. His Celing is just not that high. No need to get upset about it.

However, the "Jimmy is an elite goalie" folks need to have their head checked. He's not elite.

#2557096 Rank our griffins d prospects

Posted by GoWings1905 on 16 December 2014 - 02:39 PM

I'm most excited about Sproul because he has the most unique skill set of the bunch and provides something the Red Wings are sorely lacking. Ouellet has been extremely impressive while up in Detroit -- you would never have any idea he's only 21 because he is so composed and sound defensively. Not as good of a skater as DeKeyser, but Ouellet's presence kinda reminds me of DeKeyser's game. 


I think Ouellet and Sproul are untouchables for me going forward, but I would be fine with using the other three as trade bait. The odds of all or any of them panning out are pretty low, plus you already have Smith, DeKeyser and Ericsson around in Detroit. That being said, Ouellet and Sproul probably have the most appeal, so they are going to be the names at the top of other teams desires in a potential trade too. 


I like the direction the defense is heading in the next couple of years. The transition hasn't necessarily been smooth getting there, but once these guys start hitting the NHL, the Wings should be in good shape. 

#2556832 Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

Posted by Andy Pred 48 on 15 December 2014 - 04:27 AM

This roster is one top D and power forward short of being a real contender in the playoffs. Not sure if we have enough assets to make the deals we need.