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#2557574 Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

Posted by LeftWinger on 18 December 2014 - 08:41 PM

Is it really that hard to compare Nyquist to Hall?

 

Even last season Nyquist had 1 more goal than Hall, in 20 less games.  Hall had more assists because he has more goal scorer's around him than Nyquist does.  Thus far this season, Nyquist has 6 more goals and 1 more point than Hall.  I would say if Nyquist was a one year wonder, you'd have an argument that he is nowhere as good as Hall, but if Nyquist would have played 75 games last season (as much as Hall) he would have had 63 points to Hall's 80, again due to the more talent around him in EDM. Plus Hall in a bonafide top line player while Nyquist went from line 3 to line 1 back to line 3 day in and day out. Am I saying that right now Nyquist is just as dynamic or a game changer as Hall is....maybe not, but thus far in his short career, Nyquist is proving that he is another later round gem that is hanging tough with high draft picks.

 

 

and you guys know me, I am a diehard North American supporter.  I am defending Nyquist over Hall, not because he is a Red Wing, but because he is keeping pace with a 1st overall draft pick and doesn't show any signs of slowing down.




#2557504 Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

Posted by LeftWinger on 18 December 2014 - 10:53 AM

Everyone is going to be surprised what Hall does get traded for...if he does get traded.  I know every GM tries to (and sometimes successfully) rape Holland, but come on, Hall is a great player, but he isn't Sindeyf****** Crosby.  Nyquist + Mantha + Mrazek + more? Some of you are saying Nyquist, Jurco, Dekeyser, Mantha, 1st rounder?  Let's be real here.  First off, Nyquist is only 4 points behind Hall in scoring, with 6 more goals.  He makes $5M less and currently leads the league in PP goals.  Mantha's potential is thru the roof right now, so he would be considered a grade A, blue chip prospect. Dekeyser was coveted by ALL 30 teams and would still bring a pretty hefty return if he were to be traded.  If Holland traded Nyquist, Mantha, Dekeyser and a 1st rounder for someone, it damn well better be a 100+ point franchise player.

 

Even in my previous posts I admitted that Helm, Smith, Pulkkinen should be enough, but it won't because of the Rape clause when it comes to Holland.  But when and if Hall does get traded, people are going to be very angry that he went for less than the talent of Helm, Smith and Pulkkinen.

 

You are right though, Edmonton will most definitely asking for Nyquist and Mantha from Holland.  In that case, f*** them.




#2557348 12/16 GDT : Blue Jackets 1 at Red Wings 0 (SO)

Posted by LeftWinger on 16 December 2014 - 10:34 PM

If Babs has any sense, the next practice will NOT BE OPTIONAL and will be full blown shootouts ONLY.  I don't care if Jimmy pulls a grrrrroin during practice, these guys need to learn to score and he needs to learn how to make af****** shootout save!!!  They should hire a shootout coach...

 

After the full shootout practice, ladder drills until they puke.....tweet! AGAIN!




#2557150 12/16 GDT : Blue Jackets 1 at Red Wings 0 (SO)

Posted by LeftWinger on 16 December 2014 - 08:06 PM

lol, 163rd consecutive sellout, Ken says...hey, if you guys buy tickets and don't feel like going, send them to me! Frickin fickle fans...


Helms speed alone makes him one of the best pk'ers on the team. He can kill an entire minute by himself

oh, he is good, that's for sure, but I am not trading Sheahan over Helm. Offensive skills much better and we still have Glenny. IF a trade is needed, Helm is very tradable. I'd rather keep all if them though...




#2556560 12/13 GDT : Red Wings 1 @ Maple Leafs 4 *MOD WARNING POST 198*

Posted by LeftWinger on 13 December 2014 - 07:54 PM

this camera is gonna make me puke.




#2556319 12/12 GDT : Panthers 3 at Red Wings 2 (SO)

Posted by LeftWinger on 12 December 2014 - 11:17 PM

Deja Vu...last season, at or near the top of the league in December. Injuries start to happen (Danny D, Weiss now,) start giving away the extra point when we should be claiming these early points now. Same guys say "at least we got a point" then "just think where we'd be if only we got two more SO points." I don't like it, but lets f'ing hope this doesn't continue the same way it went last season.

 

BTW, Howard is bad when he is needed. Our guys suck at shootouts, yes even Datsyuk. Franzen is the laziest player in the entire hockey universe. He shows it every fricking game. Lazy shots, lazy dumps, lazy icings, glides around more than he skates.




#2554843 Jonathan Bernier - Nelson Mandela Comments

Posted by LeftWinger on 08 December 2014 - 12:39 PM

What's your opinion on guys like George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Ben Franklin, or John Adams?

 

They were criminals against England and treasonous. I understand the reason's behind Mandela's vision, but at the time Communism was the apex of the axis of evil.  I guess what he tried to do was no different than what our fore-fathers did, just a differnet time in history. Other than that, outside of being communist, I guess they had the same goal as Mandela.  I am not saying what he wanted for equality was wrong, just that he wasn't that "good" of a guy.  I really cannot defend our guys any more than I can defend Mandela.  Thank you for making me see the similarities.  And with that I apologize for criminalizing Mandela and makes me wonder even more, how the f*** someone is so clueluss to who this guy was!?!?

 

p.s. I am not being sarcastic either, I do appreciate the eye opener today!




#2554824 Mantha getting closer.

Posted by LeftWinger on 08 December 2014 - 12:24 PM

I nearly forgot about Anthanasiou.  I can see our future #1 line:

 

Mantha - Larkin - Anthanasiou

 

 

Why would Babcock want to leave this organization with all this talent in the minors? Especially for...bleh....Toronto.


https://www.youtube....h?v=hlCF14XEKHU

 

...and we know who to call on if both goalies go down in a game.




#2554795 Jonathan Bernier - Nelson Mandela Comments

Posted by LeftWinger on 08 December 2014 - 10:49 AM

Who cares....the question from the reporter was just as stupid. WTF did Nelson Mandela stand for that would have any affect on Bernier's life or career? It was a dumb ass question to ask a white hockey player.

 

Besides Mandela was a communist and a criminal to the state.  He was arrested numorous times for sedious activities and tried for treason.

 

 


Influenced by Marxism, he secretly joined the South African Communist Party (SACP) and sat on its Central Committee. Although initially committed to non-violent protest, in association with the SACP he co-founded the militant Umkhonto we Sizwe (MK) in 1961, leading a sabotage campaign against the apartheid government. In 1962, he was arrested, convicted of conspiracy to overthrow the state, and sentenced to life imprisonment in the Rivonia Trial.

 

What happens in America or Canada if you conspire to overthrow the government, you don't get arrested and sentenced to life, your compound gets invaded and you and your "family" end up being killed/murdered and labeled a domestic terrorist, and label your extended friends and family have to liove with the rest of their lives.  You most definitely do not get honored at a sporting event.  And yes, I do believe our government keeps us racially divided as well. But as long as we get to watch the WWE and drink our beer, we don't care what goes on outside our doors.  I understand that Mandela was standing up against his government's position on divind and serpeating the races, and good or him on that, but you stood for a lot of evil things as well that were in his own agenda. -rant over

 

This has nothing to do with Bernier, but it still was more stupid of the reporter to ask that question to him, than for Bernier to asnwer the way he did.  I will have to admit though, you have to be pretty frickin narrowminded and blind to not have heard of Mandela as much to know who he was...to not know too much about him is fine, but to never had heard of him? Crap they had concerts and songs just for him and anti-apartheid. "Not gonna play Sun City" ring a bell?




#2553472 12/2 GDT : Panthers 4 at Red Wings 3

Posted by LeftWinger on 02 December 2014 - 09:39 PM

 

 

Agenda much? 

nope....because Franzen does suck and Jimmy did dive there. Funny you single me out when multiple folks complaining about them. What's your agenda?




#2553375 12/2 GDT : Panthers 4 at Red Wings 3

Posted by LeftWinger on 02 December 2014 - 08:10 PM

bad call was bad...




#2551913 Doggone it Danny Cleary

Posted by LeftWinger on 25 November 2014 - 03:50 PM

As much as I despise him as a player, he is afterall, human.  And a very caring and giving human at that! Very Cool.




#2551311 Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

Posted by LeftWinger on 23 November 2014 - 09:16 AM

If we could land Perron and or Petry, that just may give us a little shakeup that may spark something.  Question, Kindl is already a healthy scratch most nights, IF the Wings were able to land BOTH Perron and Petry, which defensemen go? Do you think Q would be part of that trade or would we lose a prospect? I really don't like the idea of losing ANY of of D prosepects, XO, Sproul, Jensen, Marchenko, Backman, Nedomlel, Wheaton, McNulty and Dehass are all very important to this team IMO.  We still own the rights to Almqvist, although I do not think he will come back the NHL even if his rights were traded.  I know you have to give to get, and trading Q and K is not going to get you Perron or Petry, let alone both.

 

Looking back at that list of prospects, are we going to have room for these guys when they are out of exemptions in a few years? Same situation as Nestrasil, you groom your prospects to become NHL ready, then lose them because you have no room on the NHL team.  Do we risk trading one or two of those guys along with an established NHL'r? 

 

I know Edmonton wants a 2nd line center, Weiss is NOT going to waive his NTC to go there.  I think Edmonton asks for Sheahan before Helm or Andersson.  No thanks, so I think unless they'll take a 1st round pick instead, we are out. Sheahan is a no trade IMO.




#2551310 Nestrasil Waived / Claimed by Hurricanes

Posted by LeftWinger on 23 November 2014 - 08:58 AM

Its just the sting of losing him for nothing because we have Cleary.  If the Wings had signed Iginla, Heatley or someone that is a factor in games night in and night out, the sting would be far less if we had to expose Nestrasil to waivers.  But, we lost him beacause Cleary is on the roster. Period. That is what stings the most.  Most of us hated the Cleary re-signing, and now that it cost us Nestrasil (and think about it, it could have cost us Ferraro AND Callahan earlier in the season) for nothing in return, people are a bit bitter when he scores a goal in his first game that he is given good minutes to play.  True, with the likes of Mantha, Pulkinnen, et al. coming up soon, we probably won't really miss Nestrasil, even though we did lose him to waivers, it's just that we lost him to protect Cleary. :puke:

 

Damned if you do, fool me twice if you don't.  It's just that damn Cleary guy...




#2550286 Nestrasil Waived / Claimed by Hurricanes

Posted by LeftWinger on 20 November 2014 - 04:23 PM

The fact is, we lost him for nothing.  A player with potential, one of our values 3rd round picks (ones Holland refuses to trade because he finds such valuable players there.) Plus, there is no need to lose a player with untapped potential for nothing at all...especially at the price of keeping Cleary and Kindl. Both of whom bring NOTHING to the ice with them. Make Cleary a coach if he is so valuable in the locker room. Sure, Nestrasil wasn't the next Tatar or even Jurco, but why waste your valuable drafted players that are deemed SOOOOO important to rebuilding this team, just so you can keep Cleary? What next, put Pulkkinen on waivers next season just because you promised Alfredsson a spot if he wants to play? Holland screwed the pooch on this one.  He screwed the pooch on Jarnkrok (although he had to) and we are out on two players with the potential to be very good players in the NHL. Doesn't matter, we have ZERO control over it, but all along 99% of us said that if we start losing kids because of Cleary and Quincey, then we would be pissed, so there is no need to ask us why we are pissed now.  Weren't you guys here when Holland was quoted saying, we aren't going to keep Oullet in the lineup at the expense of Jakub Kindl.  It shows right there where his loyalty is, he will risk exposing players to waivers to keep his veteran.  He kept Cleary over Nestrasil, and it won't be the last time he f***s this team up....no wonder Babcock won't re-sign...