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#2305858 Would you do this deal?

Posted by LeftWinger on 07 June 2012 - 03:31 PM

No this hasn't been floated somewhere. Just one of my crazy ideas, based on rumored needs/wants for both clubs. Det sends Quincey and the rights to Hudler to Ott for Nick Foligno.

Now if any rumors are correct, and lord only knows if they are, Det is looking to get bigger, faster, younger, and tougher. Ott is rumored to be in love with Hudler and needs 1 more D. Quincey and Foligno are RFA's. Hudler is a UFA of course. It helps both teams. maybe a draft pick back to Det to balance it out a bit more.

For those that don't know Nick Foligno he is a 24 year old LW from NY. he is listed at 6-0/210 on 1 site and 6-1/215 on others. he is good for 15+ goals per year and about 90 PIM's on average. basicly he is a LW McCarty, minus the off the ice stuff. Would think he ends up in the 2.8 to 3.2 million range to sign long term. Thoughts?


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#2305667 In Anticipation of 2012 Draft

Posted by LeftWinger on 06 June 2012 - 03:39 PM

The good old days of cloak and dagger to get guys out of the USSR. Was it Klima or federov that we helped defect in the dead of night.....been so long now.....

Klima was taken in the middle of the night, running through the woods to an awaiting truck to take him to the airport in West Germany...

Fedorov was participating in the 1990 Goodwill games in Seattle, WA. and when he and his team came downstairs to attend a team meeting or practice he told them that he forgot something upstairs and re-entered the elevator, never going back...

Konstantinov they had faked a cancer diagnosis (also gave someone behind the scenes a Chevy Caprice and an undisclosed amount of money) that could only be operated on in the USA and when the Red Army let their Captain go so he could get better...well, you know the rest...too bad fate stepped in with what happened later on...

Kozlov was in a horrific auto accident that killed his teammate, Taras Kirilov and Kozlov indeed had severe injuries that required facial reconstruction. Nick Polano (asst. GM) flew to Russia to get him released from the Army and get him to the States where the rehab was better. He did defect once he arrived in America.

#2305657 Alexander Radulov.

Posted by LeftWinger on 06 June 2012 - 03:05 PM

Well if Nashville did indeed offer him $9M per year, guess they weren't too set on keeping Suter around....btw, if that indeed was an offer, what the hell is it going to take to sign Parise?

#2305487 Would you make this trade?

Posted by LeftWinger on 05 June 2012 - 08:19 PM

Franzen led the team in GWG during the regular season and the playoffs.

Don't forget that.

Never will! Man we'd never have won those games without those GWG's! He had more than Pav and Hank combined! Throw this guy $7M!

#2305481 Throw the bank at RFA Shea Weber?

Posted by LeftWinger on 05 June 2012 - 08:05 PM

Doesn't matter what happened to Z, if Weber wants to be in Detroit and Holland wants him, he will be in Detroit...frankgrimes, do you realize the nasty things Chris Chelios has done to many of Detroit Red Wings in his career BEFORE he became a Detroit Red Wing? And yes, all while Steve Yzerman was the Captain...

#2305466 Wings interested in Garrison

Posted by LeftWinger on 05 June 2012 - 06:57 PM

Well from reading the Holland comments all I got to say is :w00t2:

Of course I do not like the idea of re-signing Quincey, but whatever, so long it is not over $3.5M...

:w00t2: again at Hudler parting ways! He may be worth $5M in Ottawa, but he isn't here. So long traitor! I have hated you since you held us hostage then bolted to Russia!

I am on the fence about Brunnstrom re-signing, I will be a bit upset to lose Conner and Janik, but they never really got a shot here and I am sure they'd rather be in the NHL somewhere rather than GR.

I love the "need for a top 6, 4th line big man, top pair defenseman, tough defenseman, NHL level backup goalie" Exactly what we need! I hope he gets them! Also, VERY intrigue over him saying he WILL make a deal at the draft for negotiating rights to UFA's if the price is right! And they will be making the UFA decisions within 10-15 mins on the 1st!

Tighten that belt one more hole guys and hold on! Other than winning the Cup, this is the most exciting time of the year for me!!! (along with the trade deadline)

#2305461 Bryan Rufenach

Posted by LeftWinger on 05 June 2012 - 06:34 PM

Died while traveling in Europe? Hostel anyone? J/K! Tragic for anyone to die so young! RIP!

#2305296 Would you make this trade?

Posted by LeftWinger on 04 June 2012 - 09:51 PM

I sure love this lineup. Losing Helm sucks, but gaining a right-handed shot like Green is huge.

My Custom Lineup
Zach Parise ($7.000m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Shane Doan ($5.000m)
Gustav Nyquist ($0.875m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Valtteri Filppula ($3.000m)
Danny Cleary ($2.800m) / Brooks Laich ($4.500m) / Todd Bertuzzi ($2.075m)
Drew Miller ($0.838m) / Justin Abdelkader ($0.866m) / Patrick Eaves ($1.200m)
Cory Emmerton ($0.533m) / Jan Mursak ($0.550m) /
Ryan Suter ($7.000m) / Mike Green ($5.000m)
Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Ian White ($2.875m)
Brendan Smith ($0.875m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($3.250m)
Doug Janik ($0.513m) /
Jimmy Howard ($2.250m)
Joey MacDonald ($0.550m)
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $70,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $69,082,917; BONUSES: $37,500
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $1,217,083

...does anyone think that Blue is the user with most visit to capgeek.com? He has got to be their most loyal customer there. It's another nice fantasy roster, but again, Helm won't be traded...stranger things yes, but Helm is the aorta to the Heart of the Red Wings...Behind Pav and Hank, he is about the next most important forward...

#2305293 2012 SCF : Los Angeles Kings vs. New Jersey Devils

Posted by LeftWinger on 04 June 2012 - 09:44 PM

As much as I want to Wings to win the Cup every year possible, it will be nice to see a franchise win it for the first time ever! Oh, and I like how Gretzky leeches on to the Kings once again because they are going to win...could you imagine the Gretzky love fest that ABC/CBC would have if it were the Kings and Rangers? Sheesh! Sorry, just never liked Gretzky...f*** me!

#2305278 2012 SCF : Los Angeles Kings vs. New Jersey Devils

Posted by LeftWinger on 04 June 2012 - 09:24 PM

Did you see Gretzky shaking hands with Parise at the start of the game? I swear I saw his lips say "Mickey Mouse Organization" followed by a "f*** Me!"

#2305103 Nice Khan article previewing the off-season

Posted by LeftWinger on 04 June 2012 - 07:34 AM

1: Ken Holland is a hockey god and because of his "track record", we are going to be just fine and soon we'll be dominating the league once again because we are the Red Wings and we just will cuz I said so.

Actually, with Holland's track record, there is no reason not to believe everything will okay. Is he facing a huge adversity for the first time in his GM career? Sure, but this is what he gets paid to do and he has had great success before, so until is indeed fails (which he hasn't yet) like I said, there is no reason not to believe everything will be okay...

2: Our prospects are the best in the league and can do no wrong. It's only a matter of time before the next Datsyuk, Zetterberg and Lidstrom arrive at training camp. We're totally set! It's actually a good thing we have no first round pick this year. Then we'd have way too many blue chip prospects!

We have no first round pick this year, BUT, if Holland allows Quincey to explore his options around the NHL and he signs somewhere else, Holland will have TWO 1st round and TWO 3rd round picks in 2013. One of those 1st rounders could very well be a top 10 if Quincey signs with a bottom dweller. Which may also be used in a trade scenario, Holland could get a nice player back for a top 10 1st round pick...I realize that this is all speculation and relies on Quincey signing an offer sheet somewhere else, but with the 4 or 5 prospects that are NHL caliber, even if this doesn't happen, I still think the Wings will remain competitive...

3: Detroit is the only place FA's want to sign. Even though we have had 3 consecutive early exits in the playoffs thanks to an aging core of players who are slow and losing production, we're still the best! Ken Holland actually has to beat FA's away with a stick in July. He actually has to have 8 different cell phones ready on July 1 because every single FA is calling HIM just BEGGING to be signed by the Wings. Zach Parise and Ryan Suter are so desperate to sign here that they've actually agreed to play for free.

Exactly how many early round exits did the Wings have between the 1998 and 2002 Cups? 99, 00, 01...two 2nd rounds and a 1st round exit...That didn't really deter a few UFA's from coming here then. Same with 2002 to 2008...we had a couple of first round exits then. I have said it before, Detroit may not get ALL the high end UFA's available but the ones they want, they usually get. Those UFA's may not get the highest salary, but when they do sign here, they usually finish their career's here...why is that I wonder?

#2305038 Would you make this trade?

Posted by LeftWinger on 03 June 2012 - 07:01 PM

No way, Helm is the deal breaker... There has to be a young prospect that could be thrown in there instead. I don't mind trading Kindl or Franzen, but I say no to trading Helm...Would they take Abby in his place? I would hate to trade him either, but if it is down to one or the other, Abby has to be the one...

This would be something though: Trade for Green and Laich, sign Vokoun, Wideman & Semin... (that is if Suter and Parise fall through) that would weird acquiring 5 NEW players all from the same team! Although Suter and Parise seem to be the #1 priorities, I think if Holland landed those 5 listed, it wouldn't be so bad....Add Doan to the mix as well, I think we are sitting pretty good, even if we lost out on Suter & Parise, then next year, throw the basket at Weber! Slap! Ok, Ok, I am awake now...thanks!

#2304938 Nice Khan article previewing the off-season

Posted by LeftWinger on 03 June 2012 - 10:32 AM

Why is it, when we talk about "floaters" in the NHL, it always seems to be European players? Do these Euro's just don't care when it comes down to it? Is the NHL not as important to them? Do they get their money and just mail it in for the rest of their careers? Are there any North American floaters? I am not singling out the Euro's, but it just always seems when the word "floater" is brought up, it seems it is always referring to a European player...More times than not...What about the term "locker room cancer" I hear this thrown around alot and that seems to have been said more so of Euro's too, but at least I have heard it about a few NA's...strange if you ask me...wonder what is behind this...coincidence?

#2304936 Throw the bank at RFA Shea Weber?

Posted by LeftWinger on 03 June 2012 - 10:22 AM

No....not that he is not worth the money, but there is no way Holland gives up 4 first round picks for him...

Now, if he only signs a 1 year with Nashville and he becomes a UFA next July? Yes...throw the bank at him...especially if we already have Suter!

#2304933 Off -Season Game Plan:Detroit Red Wings

Posted by LeftWinger on 03 June 2012 - 09:36 AM

I think Hudler will price himself out of Detroit's range, and obviously there's no need for Conklin to come back. But I disagree with you about Quincey, especially with Lidstrom leaving. Without re-signing Quincey we've only got 3 quality d-men signed plus unknown quantities in Kindl and Smith. I REALLY don't want to have to replace 3 defensemen in one year. Plus, after a year's worth of training camp and a steady partner Quincey is only likely to improve. Plus plus, letting him walk basically means flushing a first round pick down the toilet.

Admittedly, he didn't play well down the stretch or in the playoffs. But the guy is obviously not hopeless, and provided he returns to his previous form, could be very useful for a team short on defense moving forward.

No, not even...Holland HAS to qualify him with a contract since he is a RFA, or he will become a UFA. He made $3.125M last season, and that is all Holland has to offer him to "qualify" him. He will probably not accept that contract and will look elsewhere for more. If he signs a contract offer ANYWHERE ELSE in the salary range of $3,013,435 to $4,520,150, Holland gets compensated with a 1st AND a 3rd round pick if Holland does not match...nothing personal, just business. Especially if Holland lands Suter and maybe picks up another NHL ready #5/#6 defenseman... If they sign Quincey for $4M, then I think that is flushing the first rounder down the toilet. On this team, Quincey is just not worth $4M...IMO. Especially if he is going to be #4/#5/#6 ranked...he is more valuable on another team, especially if Holland lands Suter...You could never TRADE Quincey for a first and a third, but since he is an RFA due to make upwards of $4M, you may as well take the compensation...