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#2297001 What's Kenny Holland's Offseason Plan?

Posted by LeftWinger on 25 April 2012 - 03:50 PM

Anaheim will not trade Perry. Especially not to Detroit.

Ya, I agree, but I don't think trading Filppula alone is going to get Detroit a great player, the other side of the sword is if Franzen is added in, then you would expect someone of Nash's or Perry's caliber in return...dunno, just keep them both and hope Franzen decides he wants to actually play someday.

#2296627 What's REALLY going to happen this off-season?

Posted by LeftWinger on 24 April 2012 - 10:58 AM

We love ya Blue, but not another "REALIST" thread. We already have someone telling us how our scenarios are junk and we don't do homework. He was so passionate about how much of a realist he is that he started his own thread. It seems that changes to this team are just all junk to him. He will come in here, pick apart your ideas, call it fantasy, explain why the Wings in it current status is great, Franzenlina is still the best sniper in the league and that nobody can take his place. All the while ignoring the fact that everyone is mentioning Parise, then bringing up Parise like he was the only "realist" to suggest Zach become a Red Wing....

Also, you mention Hudler will be re-signed, but at $3M+ it wold better to let him walk. It would be a mistake if he did re-sign here. Also, if you watched the same Lidstrom we all watched, then you should agree that he needs to retire. If he cannot heal correctly and it affects his game that much, then he is done. No offense to him, not being negative, but we don't need a Lidstrom that isn't even playing like he is a human, let alone super-human...

I also think Cleary and Mursak (if not Emmerton too) should be shopped around. But that is just my opinion and there are some good arguments for trading them and keeping them. Also, you say Mursak and Emmerton will start in GR, they'd have to pass through waivers to do so, may as well try to get a couple of draft picks for them...BTW Olie would be bad here...

#2296316 Parise, Suter, Doan AND Lidstrom

Posted by LeftWinger on 23 April 2012 - 03:31 PM

Helm and Abby won't get that big of a raise...I stand by my lineup...it beats your example all season long and in the playoffs...

#2296169 We Need to Get Tougher to Play Against

Posted by LeftWinger on 23 April 2012 - 08:19 AM

although, even though I really REALLY hope for it, I know it is highly unlikely that Franzen and Cleary will be shipped out, but honestly, any lineup that includes Franzen, Cleary & Hudler will NEVER be tough or even hard to play against. This is Holland's off-season to prove to everyone in Detroit and the NHL that they are serious about winning The Cup every year they can. He needs to make an impact on this lineup over the summer. All UFA's need to go bye bye (Sorry Lids, I just don't see the drive in you anymore, but if you find it, we have $2M waiting for you!) and all of Franzen, Cleary, Emmerton and Mursak need to be traded...It's go time...this will define Holland's ability, with Lids and Holmsrtom likely retiring, he official steps out of what Scotty Bowman and into an entire team HE builds. I do beleive those two are the last players from the Scotty Bowman era...

#2296142 What's Kenny Holland's Offseason Plan?

Posted by LeftWinger on 23 April 2012 - 06:57 AM

But look how many goals Hudler and Franzen produce. They're practically snipers! :hehe:


...and how could he pass on acquiring all those GWG's?

Who are you guys shipping to Dallas for Morrow?

Franzen +

Morrow can't stay healthy. That's an issue.

Franzen cannot either....plus is his VERY unreliable AND a wussy...

EDIT: Forget Iginla...the time for aging stars, past thier prime in Detroit is over...plus he makes WAAAY too much money...

#2295185 25 Games for Torres

Posted by LeftWinger on 21 April 2012 - 11:30 AM

Consider this....what was Bertuzzi's TOTAL games missed after "The Incident?" Now, compare that to this hit....WAY WAY too harsh...I think Bertuzzi missed about 20 games total....

#2294878 WCQF Game 5 GDT : Red Wings 1 at Predators 2

Posted by LeftWinger on 20 April 2012 - 10:54 PM

Wait....Come on guys, it's only December...

Babcock's post-game interview called attention to the lack of offensive depth. Being outspoken about it, I bet that Holland addresses it. We need to keep Franzen, he's still good for 25 goals a season. But due to his streakiness we can no longer RELY on him to get us out of a hole. Ergo, sign another big name and relegate Franzen to awesome secondary scoring.

Also it's clear we need someone who goes to the net, carrying the puck, rather than dropping it back to a trailer who loses it to the other team.

Franzen? Really? Awesome scoring?

God I hope he has played his last game as a Wing...yet, somehow I think he will be right back on Datsyuk's wing in October....
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#2294846 WCQF Game 5 GDT : Red Wings 1 at Predators 2

Posted by LeftWinger on 20 April 2012 - 10:32 PM

Geez, out of all this, we don't even get the realignment next season either!!!
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#2294827 WCQF Game 5 GDT : Red Wings 1 at Predators 2

Posted by LeftWinger on 20 April 2012 - 10:28 PM

Man won't it be such a let down for you if Holland actually does something.

I really REALLY hope Holland FINALLY makes these changes that are needed! I hope he shows us all that he is a great GM and acquires the talent that this team needs. No longer can you keep the likes of Franzen or Cleary. Make changes Kenny, make changes...

I'm certainly going to enjoy reading all the posts pontificating over who's a "real" fan and who's not, in the wake of this loss. It's starting already. Too bad I have no popcorn......

didn't you know? Since we are bashing the Wings player and management, none of us are fans...we hate everything about the Wings...Lets go Penguins!

EDIT: -1, see told ya! Here come the neggers...too bad you can hold no water right now. This team stinks, we told you so at the deadline and you laughed, now what? Neg Neg Neg...you are more yellow than Franzen...

#2294713 WCQF Game 5 GDT : Red Wings 1 at Predators 2

Posted by LeftWinger on 20 April 2012 - 09:55 PM






Yes!!! I think you and I got a lot of the same hate since the deadline. They are always so quick to neg and hate on you, but never like to eat the crow or a piece of humble pie...

#2294565 WCQF Game 5 GDT : Red Wings 1 at Predators 2

Posted by LeftWinger on 20 April 2012 - 09:33 PM

Ok, can I now please say what I want to say?

...nevermind, you all have been saying it this entire series.

Can I get at least a couple apology's for the hate I had to endure since the deadline?

#2292944 Hometown discount for Nick next year?

Posted by LeftWinger on 19 April 2012 - 08:11 PM

So Lidstrom would be making less money than Ericsson?

It would be only for one last season and it would be to acquire REAL talent for this team...if he signs for more, then all we'll see is more of this crap we've seen since Feb. Retire or $2M....only options to make this team back into a contender...

#2292905 Luongo gone from Vancouver this summer ...

Posted by LeftWinger on 19 April 2012 - 07:04 PM

That's all we need; a crumbling sive of ego, while we unite Franzen with the Sedins. :scared: Are you out of your mind?

Now there is a VERY interesting situation....I know I thought about Franzen to Dallas so he could play with Eriksson and bring us Morrow...but I think if Vancouver felt that Franzen could be a missing piece to their puzzle, if they fail to get out of the first round, they will be looking to make a crucial change....so I ask you, would you take Alexandre Burrows for Franzen? I think I would...Interesting....VERY interesting....

edit: Negg? Really? Burrows AND Morrow WAY better than Franzen...make that trade ALL DAY!

#2292892 Hometown discount for Nick next year?

Posted by LeftWinger on 19 April 2012 - 06:40 PM

It's not that Holland will offer him $2M, that would be asinine. BUT Lidstrom needs to tell Holland one of two things by draft day. Either "I'm hanging them up" or "Kenny, I will play one more year for $2M, get some players here who desire to win!"

If Lidstrom re-signs for $5.5M or more? Forget EVER making this team better. Suter will go elsewhere, Parise will go elsewhere, nobody that will make a serious impact on this team will sign here for pennies, just because it the Red Wings. IF that happens, Holland may as well just re-sign Hudler too. And not sign anybody else, then keep all the cap space for the deadline....then...broken record.

Lidstrom....Please, for the sake of this team becoming the Dead Wings again, retire or $2M. If Yzerman will take $1.5M for one last shot, then take a page from "THE" Captain...

#2292849 Trade Zets /Dats and Franzen

Posted by LeftWinger on 19 April 2012 - 04:23 PM

It's time to go with the youth and get bigger and stronger. Bert,Homer and Lidstrom all need to retire. Hudler needs to go play in midget league.
Howard needs another goalie to push him for the starting job.

Wow, -51? Anyhow, other than you choice in thread title, you are't that far off. I agree Holmstrom and Lidstrom need to seriously, SERIOUSLY consider retiring. Bertuzzi is signed for two more years. Hudler does need to go and Howard DOES need a goalie who is going to challenge him for the starting spot. He needs that push to become better...

...but your choice in titles, wow. Z and D are two player you NEVER trade. On my UNtradeable list are: Zetterberg, Datsyuk, Filppula, Nyquist, Helm, Abby, Smith. Others I keep are Quincey, Ericsson, White, Miller, Eaves & Howard. Not counting the UFA's Holmstrom and Lidstrom, everyone else is fair game...

Datsyuk-Z-Franzen on one line
Filpulla-Hudler-Parise on the other.


:wacko: In order for this team to succeed next year at all, at the very least Hudler CANNOT be in their plans...