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#2242018 Open Season on Ducks

Posted by LeftWinger on 06 January 2012 - 05:09 PM

Franzen, Hudler, Kindl, Andresson, Ferraro, McCollum, Nestrasil, ANY of our D prospects. You just cannot pass on Perry or Getzlaf. I would acquire them both if I could. Ya, now I am dreaming in EA Sports land, but those two on Detroit would make us almost instant favorites, and face it, with the improvements Chicago and San Jose has done this year, Detroit needs to step it up and this would be a great move.

We have the Cap space for both, they are signed through next season. The Wings are over their head deep in great prospects and could easily afford to give up a few of them. McCollum is NOT going to be backup to Howard, he is going to want to be a starter in the NHL and will probably leave as a Free Agent before Howard is ready to give up the #1 spot, so you could easily trade McCollum especially with how good Mrazek is playing. Next season you will be shopping or a #1 defenseman, not another #7 so Kindl and the rest of the prospects are fair game. You could go down the list of top 25 prospects in our organization and chose three or four that you could really live without, so if losing Franzen & Hudler and prospects in exchange for Getzlaf and Perry, I am doing it. You have to ask yourself, if this trade were in the works, which Detroit team has a better chance to compete with Chicago/San Jose and actually win the Cup this year or next, the one with Franzen/Hudler on it, or the one with Getzlaf/Perry? Holland made a mistake in 2009 by letting Hudler handcuff him by coming back and re-signing Franzen. He lost Hossa who said he wanted to stay and would take considerably less to do so. Here is Holland chance to make ammends on that mistake, get rid of Franzen & Hudler and make his team much better and tougher to play against in the form of Getzlaf and Perry. That is a blockbuster trade that will workout for both teams. PLUS it allows Holland to just focus on replacing Lidstrom next year instead of trying to find that power forward and sniper along with a #1 defender.

I know it is hard to say goodbye to homegrown talent. Guys who have grown up in our system, but in the end, it's all about the crest on the front of the sweater. I hope Holland doesn't make the same mistakes he made in 2009 by passing on better players to keep Franzen & Hudler...

EDIT: Also, ask yourself this, who you rather have these two or would you rather see Chicago, San Jose, Vancouver or worse yet Pitt or Toronto or Boston get one or both of them? If that happens then you not only lose out on acquiring two great players, but you also take two steps back from being on par with the elite teams in the NHL.


#2241966 Open Season on Ducks

Posted by LeftWinger on 06 January 2012 - 01:07 PM

people forget that Mule is a BEAST in the playoffs when he is healthy. He has 72 points in 83 playoff games in his career. He was playing injured last year in the playoffs but here's his point total before that:

2008 18 in 16 games
2009 23 in 23 games
2010 16 in 12 games

Why would we even think of trading one of the top playoff performers in the league? Because he's streaky in the regular season? Are you people frickin crazy?

You have to give up something if you want something. In 2001 Holland traded away perhaps one of the best playoff performers AND prolific regular season scorer we had in order to get a goalie he felt we needed. He traded Kozlov AND a 1st for Hasek. I think an exchange that involved Franzen for either Getzlaf or Perry would be a great move. Franzen, Hudler and Kindl are three players from the big club who can and should be shopped come deadline day. If Holland could trade any combo these three plus prospects and get a Getzlaf and or Perry and or Ryan, then it is a no brainer...


#2241751 Open Season on Ducks

Posted by LeftWinger on 05 January 2012 - 11:54 AM

I might get flamed for this but I would make a package with Franzen.

Hes clutch yeah, but so Is Getzlaf. Getzlaf is only 26 and easily a top 5 center in the league, he isnt injury prone like Franzen is either and isnt locked into a long term contract.

Getzlaf plays solid defensively as well.

If you get flamed, then I am on fire with you! If this team had a chance to score any one f Getzlaf, Perry or Ryan, I would send Franzen packing in a heartbeat. Hey, Franzen may be our third best player right now, but he is in no way better than the fore mentioned Ducks. Perry just came of a Hart trophy for pete's sake! If we could package Franzen, Hudler and some prospects for two of them? Ok, I am gonna stop now because I am just getting carried away!

If you get flamed, it would be by big time homers.

I will bring the fired retardant clothes because trading Franzen for one of these guys would be worth the flaming!


#2241089 Henrik Sedin's Comments on Vancouver's Toughness

Posted by LeftWinger on 03 January 2012 - 05:50 PM

Who is this anyone guy and where does he play? I understand he isn't gonna come out and say they are ballerina's but if Vancouver is tough, the Wings are Mike Tyson...


#2241065 Rupp 1st Goal, Then Salute at WC

Posted by LeftWinger on 03 January 2012 - 04:40 PM

More than that, just be excited and celebrate the goal.

The salutes and pointing your stick like a gun and the like are all premeditated moves the player does to call attention to himself. I'd take a Patrick Eaves spontaneous excitement kind of celebration any day over that.

This is what I am saying. I am not saying do not celebrate your accomplishment, but all the staged antics and dances are annoying. Hey, let's pretend I am fishing after I make a tackle, let's do a salute (albeit a incorrect and almost pansy looking one) after I score a goal. I do not mind the pure excitement and celebration, but when a player in any sport does the same thing over and over (discount double check) it's like look at me, I am bigger than the game! Just freaking score and jump for excitement, don't put on the monkey act.


#2240989 Rupp 1st Goal, Then Salute at WC

Posted by LeftWinger on 03 January 2012 - 12:03 PM

IMO, any kind of "dance" or strange celebration outside of a fist pump or raising your arms up then hugging you teammates should be penalized in ALL sports. Score a goal, Homerun, Touchdown and dance around like a damn fool like you are bigger than the game then it's a penalty. I know they don't have penalties in baseball, but enough of the chest bumps and crazy handshakes. Enough of the endzone charades and dances and enough of the "salutes" and "discount double play's." Score, pump your fists, hug teammates, get congratulated and move on. Nothing ruins a great touchdown/goal/homerun more than the kind of stuff that goes on after. (not so much happens in hockey, but the other sports got to do something about it.)


:lol: :hysterical: at the negs. Thanks! I think I may just do a dance!


#2240987 1/3 GDT : Red Wings 5 at Stars 4

Posted by LeftWinger on 03 January 2012 - 11:55 AM

Looking forward to Commodore throwing Ott around everytime he steps in front of Jimmy! Go Wings!

My bro, his lady friend, and I have tiks in Sec 223 (platinum level, Bitchez). I will wearing my Home Probert jersey (not genuine but Reebok reproduction ... boo) and my bro will be his Datsyuk black practice jersey. Looking forward to a good game and "killin it" at the Old Number 7 Club pregame and postgame. Will try to stop Hooter's to hook up with our LGW brethren. What time will you guys be there?

Dude, third wheel is not cool....lady friend won't be happy! :lol:


#2240984 Cole suspended three games

Posted by LeftWinger on 03 January 2012 - 11:44 AM

Like I said...agree to disagree.
Abdelkader saw it coming at the last moment, hence what he did with the puck. Not sure what else I can say without just repeating myself...so again, agree to disagree.

You never cease to amaze me with your "view" on hits and players. Can maybe for once you can just get over the fact that your team loses or your player commits something dirty without trying to drag a Wings player through the coals? If you watch the two videos, Abdelkader has nowhere to go and even if he saw a flash of blue coming towards him, it was at the last nanosecond and he maybe just tensed up. You cannot tell any of us that this was not a suspension worthy, dirty play. Not even mentioning that Abby already had a man on him so Cole had no business even trying to check him. Even that play along the boards gets called 99% of the time if something like that happens even without a hit to the head.

Datsyuk's hit sure did end up near the head, but if Jackass wouldn't have pulled a Cindy Lee Crysby and flopped his head back like he was shot with a canon, maybe the refs would've taken a serious look at the play. Jackass is known for embellishment and cheap shots of his own and got no sympathy. PLUS it was not a blindside hit, Jackass knew he was coming and he should've maybe used Pronger Physics and hit Datsyuk instead. Even though, according to you, it still would've have been Yzerman's err...I mean Datyuks fault.

What else is funny, is all of the crosschecks and runs that Backes does that don't get called, I don't see you talking about how those are penalty's and should be called. Of course you aren't. Hitchcock is tired of Shanny's videos? He doesn't want to watch it because he has seen the hit and knows it was suspension worthy so why even listen to an explanation? Hitchcock isn't gonna come out and say, "ya I agree it deserves a suspension and Cole is an idiot." I am sure he called Cole a few choice words in private. If he disagreed with the call or the suspension, then he would've said something to that effect, not just he is tired of watching the video.

So what's next on your agenda? You come in here trash talking Jimmy and touting Elliot as the best goalie to ever wear the musical note only to see him give up 6 goals in 2 games and lose to Goalie A both times. You then come in and say if Cole's hit is illegal then so is Datsyuk's even though they are entirely two different types of plays with two different intentions and results. There is no way to even compare the two, unless you are saying Abdelkader dove? With you I wouldn't doubt it. If Cole would've injured his shoulder on the play, I am sure you would have spun up another story on how Abdelkader cheapshotted Cole with his head...

...I hope you never go away cprice because you are hilarious to read!


#2240562 Krys Barch.

Posted by LeftWinger on 01 January 2012 - 03:30 PM

It's actually all stupid. Someone said earlier, sticks and stones etc... He does not need a suspension, since he used a racial slur and got caught, he will now and forever be labeled as a racist. For the players that are just like him, they wont care, but for the player (and teammates) that aren't, they will disassociate themselves from him and will alienate him from certain things they do together because they will not not want people to think that they accept him. He pretty much punished himself, he will always be remembered for this....and that is the sad part. It's gonna affect his current position with Florida and it's gonna affect his ability to sign contracts elsewhere. He dug his own grave.


#2240532 Lidstrom and Perry in Honda Commercial

Posted by LeftWinger on 01 January 2012 - 12:55 PM

Am I the only one who though that was a retarded commercial? Sure it's nice to see Lidstrom in a non-local commercial and Perry wasn't that douchey in it either. But the content is absolutely stupid. I have nothing against Honda, but they could have come up with a scenario WAY better than this. I get what they were trying to do, and yes it's nice to see a commercial that involves the NHL that doesn't have the poster child in it, but this fails on all attempts. The Jiri Fischer - Chris Pronger one was much better back in the day...

regarding Osgood and Draper, Ozzie is much better than Drapes in that commercial, but neither would win an oscar


#2240525 Krys Barch.

Posted by LeftWinger on 01 January 2012 - 12:20 PM

...certain things are off limits? So this wouldn't fly?

Hey Hanrahan! Hanrahan! Hanrahan - Suzanne sucks p$$$y! Hey Hanrahan she's a dyke! I know, I know! She's a lesbian, a lesbian, a lesbian!


:hysterical:

...anyhow this incident is not very good for his image. Although as in todays world, I am sure racial slurs are still used in the NHL and other leagues, they just aren't all heard or disciplined....


#2240524 Your MVP Thus Far

Posted by LeftWinger on 01 January 2012 - 12:14 PM

Yes, last night he solidified his status as MVP of this team thus far. Looks like Goalie A has shown Goalie B how things are done on a legit Stanley Cup contending team.....cprice?


#2240522 12/31 GDT : Blues 0 at Detroit Red Wings 3

Posted by LeftWinger on 01 January 2012 - 12:03 PM

Try the videos section of hockeyfights.com. He gets in a few decent shots but looks like he takes one and falls down at the end. A pretty short and even fight overall.

Pretty accurate description. Because of the knockdown you may have give him a loss, BUT the point is, Commodore did something that this team NEEDS, stood up for himself and his teammates. He was a huge net-front presence, he threw his body around as much as he could and yes, him being out there with Ericsson has made Ericsson a bit more physical. I seen E throwing his body around more than he has all year.

THIS is what I meant by pleading with Babcock to give Commodore a legit shot. I hope he stays in the lineup for he most part, and no offense to Kindl, but I hope Ericsson keeps playing this way and even more. I am beginning to conclude that this may make Kindl expendable come deadline.

Also, all you guys who were ragging on Miller, saying he is just a useless commodity, he doesn't bring much of anything to the game, well, even his toughest critics can attest that he has been playing awesome since Conner went out and he was moved up to the third line. Even Abdelkader has thrived with more ice time. I would venture to say with Miller, Helm, Abby, Eaves, Conner, Cleary and throw in Holmstrom along with whichever rookie is playing, we have one of the hardest working and best 3rd and 4th lines in the NHL, no matter which combo you throw out there. My only concern is who goes back down to GRR when Mursak and Eaves get healthy. No problem for Andersson or Nyquist clearing. But either Conner or Emmerton will have to go back down at that point and right now I'd hate to lose EITHER of them to waivers.

I am glad that both Franzen and Hudler scored last night, but I am still tired of their inconsistency and would not miss either of them. But that is just my opinion,I do like when Franzen plays like the superstar he is supposed to be, but he is far from elite status. IMO he, Hudler and Kindl can all be offered around at the deadline, but I do believe Franzen is here to stay.


#2240072 12/30 GDT : Red Wings 2 at Blackhawks 3

Posted by LeftWinger on 30 December 2011 - 11:09 PM

Come April-time, I'm okay with not having Hossa.

why? They both had 21 points the last 2 playoff's and Hossa is a much bigger threat than Franzen, faster, stronger and quicker shot. The last two and a half season's is just proof who the Wings should have kept.


#2240065 12/30 GDT : Red Wings 2 at Blackhawks 3

Posted by LeftWinger on 30 December 2011 - 11:05 PM

this team needs more offense.

Hey, but they have Franzen, it's only been 10 games since our designated "sniper" has scored. I would be surprised if he doesn't go at least 19 games without a goal.