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#2344660 Red Wings sign D Kent Huskins to 1-year, $750k contract

Posted by LeftWinger on 22 January 2013 - 03:30 PM

Aggressive yes- Idiotic, classless and immature NO.


Of course I would not prefer White, Q or Cola....Wiz in Columbus is top pair dman, so thats a redundant arguement...like saying..."Well, Instead of Hossa we got Eaves"-Make it a level playing field here. If you like, I can give you an extended list of guys I would have preferred in Detroit who's talents are about the SAME as Wisneiski's....let me know if you would like that.

I have never hated TooToo- I was actually in favor of the signing which ( PUSHING THE ECHO BUTTON) why I like the Huskins signing. Big gritty guy, stands up for the team without the trailer trash shenanigans that go along with a toddler like Wiz and what, 5 million cheaper. YES, Yes, please. he isnt going to win the Norris, but he isnt a cheapshot artist with several dirty suspensions under his belt.

Character wins.


also, in all honesty, Wiz isn't gonna win a Norris either.  I was a huge proponent of sign Wiz that off season, but the money he got was too much for Detroit at the time. Plus his immature comments kind of turn me as well. Hey James, you see all these guys signing for top dollar compared to signing for less in Detriot...well who has more Cups, they top dollar guys or the guys who took less? Thanks, you are no longer a son of Michigan in my mind...


Well Kent, welcome to Detroit. Stay awhile, you will like it!

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#2344094 Lashoff

Posted by LeftWinger on 21 January 2013 - 10:50 PM

Lashoff has earned a spot over Kindl in my (e)book....:hysterical: Sorry, had to!


If Cola is out and Kindl isn't ready to be the #7, I would love to see Ouellet with a chance, or Sproul the Bruiser...

#2343811 1/21: Red Wings 4 at Blue Jackets 3 (SO)

Posted by LeftWinger on 21 January 2013 - 10:05 PM

Nyquist - Datsyuk - Filppula


Brunner - Zetterberg - Tootoo


Top 6....done.

#2343607 1/21: Red Wings 4 at Blue Jackets 3 (SO)

Posted by LeftWinger on 21 January 2013 - 09:24 PM

Franzen is NOT playing great...

#2343053 Everyone chill out!

Posted by LeftWinger on 21 January 2013 - 01:37 PM

...and before anyone mentions the salaries, Hossa only makes $1.3M more than Franzen's cap hit. So, no, Hossa is hardly way more expensive than Franzen. This debate will never be over, but only when Holland dumps Franzen and somehow gets Hossa back.

#2343048 Everyone chill out!

Posted by LeftWinger on 21 January 2013 - 01:32 PM

Really?  Franzen can't be the #1 goal scorer for a team.  Uh...  He was last year.  Hossa is a great regular season player but a playoff no-show. 



Hossa 15 points


Franzen 18 points




Hossa 6 points


Franzen 3 points




Hossa 0 points


Franzen 1 point


Hell even when Franzen had is great 2008 he had 18 points to Hossa's 26 points, the year they played together Hossa had 15 points to Franzen's 23 (a year in which Hossa was injured) so I would say playoffs they are pretty fricken even, so I am giving the win to Hossa because of his regular season dominance of Franzen...again, Franzen will NEVER score 40 goals here in Detroit. If nobody can look back and admit that Holland made a huge error in not keeping Hossa and opting for Franzen and Hudler, then you really need to take another look....


Just to add to this, since Hossa played here and left he has 261 points in 279 games 93% scoring.  Franzen in the same time period, 191 in 252 games 75% scoring. In that sme time period, Franzen is a +49 and Hossa is a +81...we can go on forever...


Hands down Hossa is far greater than Franzen ad Holland screwed the pooch on that one.

#2343024 Everyone chill out!

Posted by LeftWinger on 21 January 2013 - 12:50 PM

Hindsight is always 20/20...Rafalski retired totally unexpectedly and Holland got what he could last minute...This summer, he made a concerted effort to get the best FA defenseman available, and it didn't happen for reasons that were mostly out of his control...After Franzen's dominating 2008 Cup winning performance and Hossa's disappearing act in the playoffs the one year we had him, not many were interested in keeping Hossa at the time. Of course NOW everyone will say that wanted Hossa, of course and that Holland is just an idiot. 

I don't know when you became a Wings fan, or when you joined this forum. But during that off season, I can guarantee than this forum was at least 50-50 on whether to keep Franzen or Hossa. So it's not just now everyone is saying we want Hossa, it's been this way and has been debated back and forth since the day Marian signed with Chicago.  Also, you like to say Hossa had a disappearing act in 2009 playoffs, well, if you watched and were a fan back then, you'd know that he was seriously injured in those playoffs and missed half the next season due to surgery on that injury.  I wouldn't call it a disappearing act rather an ill-timed injury. Blaming Hossa for the 2009 loss is a copout.  Hossa has been and always will be better than Franzen, and it is one of the worst mistakes Holland has made.  The day he signed Hossa his team got better, and ever since he let him go, the team has gotten worse and worse...Since Holland couldn't or wouldn't address the issues sooner, you are now seeing him scramble to try to patch holes that he knew was coming and didn't have a plan for...ie giving up a 1st round pick for Quincey who isn't worth a 4th round pick...

#2342996 The Ken Holland Quote Thread

Posted by LeftWinger on 21 January 2013 - 12:12 PM

"We're comfortable with keeping Franzen, even though Marian was willing to take a huge discount to stay, we like our chances with Johan and Jiri..."

#2342762 Ericsson out, Getting MRI on Hip

Posted by LeftWinger on 20 January 2013 - 04:08 PM

Well, I sure wish it was Mrazek coming up instead of McCollum....


Also, with Ericsson questionable, I guess we'll see Kindl.... :bad:  I'd rather they call Ouellet or Sproul.

#2342657 Everyone chill out!

Posted by LeftWinger on 20 January 2013 - 12:48 PM

It is time for an overhaul... This small skilled team doesn't equate to NHL hockey anymore.  Sure, there is a place on the team for a couple of smaller skilled forwards, but if St. Louis didn't prove anything to anyone else last night, they proved it to me, todays NHL needs BIG skilled forwards... I almost blew my beer through my nose when Mickey Redmond said about Franzen that "There is a guy who can match up physically with Backes..." I laugh hysterically today about it.  The Wings are full of small skilled and big average players. The extent of our small skilled forwards should start and end with Zetterberg and Datsyuk.  I reserve judgement on Brunner because he is a rookie and well had 1/5 of our shots last night and at one point had half of them. But the rest of this team can and will be judged, especially after 10 games if they aren't at least 6-4.


The makeup of this team needs to be changed drastically.  I know Holland tried for the Olsen twins and I give him credit for everything he did over the summer, including the draft where he went with some larger and tougher players along with his couple of smaller skilled players.  I know nobody agrees with me, but Franzen needs to be traded and I would say the same about Filppula. Why? Because Filppula can bring us a nice piece in return.  I still maintain that Filppula should be traded to Anaheim for Bobby Ryan (if Anaheim would do so.)  I know Selanne holds alot of water in Anaheim and the fact that he said he wants to play with Filppula should not go unoticed by Holland and the Anaheim GM.  I do not even know what Franzen would get us in return after his epic fall at the end of last season and which contiues today.  If traded anywhere, I am sure it would be somewhere where he would have countrymen who have chemistry with him, Vancouver or Dallas come to mind.  I have said before about getting Burrows or Morrow for him, but I am not sure now that those teams would want him.... I could see Franzen doing well with the Sedins or Eriksson, which is why I mention those two teams.


Quincey wasn't anywhere worth the 1st round pick, I don't care who would have been selected at #19.  Heck, Stuart only cost us a 2nd and a 4th.  I maintain that Quincey should not have been re-signed and we should have collected whatever picks we could have gotten as compensation.  But no, Holland wasted $3.75M of cap space on this useless garbage.


In my opinion tradeable assets today are:


Filppula, Franzen, Cleary, Emmerton, Quincey, Ericsson, Kindl...(of course along with picks or prospects to get us what we need...)


Waive Mursak, his NHL career is over, WAY over...


Buyout Samuelsson and Bertuzzi....

#2342454 1/19: Red Wings 0 at St. Louis Blues 6

Posted by LeftWinger on 19 January 2013 - 11:15 PM

What a great first post-game interview for the new Captain. Not even any pre-season games to warm up on. Gotta feel bad for Z.


Ya, gotta feel bad for those teams that didn't have any pre-season games to warm up on....like St. Louis.

#2342433 1/19: Red Wings 0 at St. Louis Blues 6

Posted by LeftWinger on 19 January 2013 - 11:02 PM

Could have had a 1st and 3rd for Quincey if you just let him sign for $3.7M somewhere else...now you couldn't even get a 5th for him.  I still like Holland, but he makes some stupid moves...

#2342429 1/19: Red Wings 0 at St. Louis Blues 6

Posted by LeftWinger on 19 January 2013 - 11:00 PM

Does anyone think that Stevie would trade us a 1st rounder for Quincey?

#2342422 1/19: Red Wings 0 at St. Louis Blues 6

Posted by LeftWinger on 19 January 2013 - 10:57 PM

In other news.....Hossa with 2 goals today. Franzen with....a massage, a glass of Zima and a new Ram vs. Mule commercial.

#2342361 1/19: Red Wings 0 at St. Louis Blues 6

Posted by LeftWinger on 19 January 2013 - 10:40 PM

Jackman is lucky the ref stepped in there.


Franzen would have dropped him. Yanked his mouthgaurd out...