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#2216204 Hudler?

Posted by LeftWinger on 18 October 2011 - 04:42 PM

4 games, 4 points....still doesn't mean I like him, but so far he is doing well.

#2216202 Could these be the Winter Classic Jerseys?

Posted by LeftWinger on 18 October 2011 - 04:31 PM

I am starting a petition, both the Flyers and Penguins have had it twice. Next season, Detroit vs. Devils in Commerica or Michigan Stadium.

#2216194 Could these be the Winter Classic Jerseys?

Posted by LeftWinger on 18 October 2011 - 03:57 PM

Ya well, IMO, the Rags should wear the old New York Americans sweater...

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and we're talking using the Quakers sweater...

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#2214900 What the heck is the PA guy saying?!

Posted by LeftWinger on 13 October 2011 - 09:27 PM

I was at the home opener against the Sens....he's saying "That goal brought to you by DTE Energy, where saving means scoring" or some stuff like that. Can't stand it.


:puke: I am beginning to not like Mike Illitch and his marketing...I know it may be sacrilegious to say that, but when is enough enough?

#2214771 What the heck is the PA guy saying?!

Posted by LeftWinger on 13 October 2011 - 08:41 PM

The Joe's music in general needs to be re-evaluated. I cannot stand music "themes" for goals, penalties, etc... and while we are at it, the DJ stinks. I don't know who picks the music, but I am growing tired of the same old junk that they have been playing since 1990...at least for the most part.

#2214748 Redwings concession for moving east

Posted by LeftWinger on 13 October 2011 - 08:31 PM

...anything that doesn't involve Detroit moving East is garbage. And if they end up staying in the West, this league will be absolute hogwash. (if it aint already)

Detroit to the East is the only answer.

#2214379 Filppula

Posted by LeftWinger on 12 October 2011 - 04:34 PM

I am beginning to conclude that Filppula will not be a 50+ point scorer, but his defense is invaluable, and he is always a threat out there, so other teams have to keep a close watch on him. I liked him on Datyuk's line in the playoff, he seemed to pick it up a little more offensively. So far he is pretty solid with Zetterberg and Franzen, but I think Bertuzzi is better off on that line and Helm-Eaves-Cleary together as the third line checkers. I would like to see Filppula and Datsyuk on the first line instead of Cherry (I mean Cleary) up there. That would leave Miller/Abdelkader/Holmstrom/Brunnstrom/Emmerton for the 4th line. I know Homer isn't much of a 4th liner, but he is pretty much just a powerplay specialist anymore and has already been a healthy scratch this year. This is probably his final year.


...I know, I know, where is Hudler, he is in the blank spot, but I cannot bring myself to type it without my fingers burning...:lol:

#2214373 How Do You Feel About The Southeast?

Posted by LeftWinger on 12 October 2011 - 04:06 PM

Yes to the Southeast if it gets our "foot in the door" of the eastern conference... BUT

I still say the best would be Detroit and Columbus move East and have a 14 and 16 team conference. Seems to work fine for MLB. Just like MLB the East could have three divisions with 5, 6, 5 teams and the West would have 5, 5, 4.

Wales Conference:

Atlantic Patrick: PIT - PHL - Rags - NJD - Iles

Northeast Howe: Detroit - TOR - MTL - BUF - OTT - BOS

Southeast Adams: CBJ - WAS - TPA - CAR - FLA

Campbell Conference:

Central Norris: NAS - CHI - STL - MIN - DAL

Northwest Smythe: VAN - CGY - EDM - WIN

Pacific Hull: ANA - LAK - SAN - COL - PHX

...I also like renaming the conferences back to the Wales/Campbell, it just sounds better... this would put 4 of the original six in one division and move Columbus (which is in the Eastern time zone and more southeast than Detroit) into the Southeast division. Ideally they rename the division to honor NHL history as well, bring back the Norris, Adams, Smythe, Patrick then have two more, maybe Howe and Hull?

Edit: To change the names of the Division's

#2214371 Hudler?

Posted by LeftWinger on 12 October 2011 - 03:47 PM

I understand what this thread was supposed to be about and commend you for it. The speds who neg you and never give a reason why, because they hide behind their monitors, are running rampant. These types usually grow up to become internet child predators but the research doesn't it prove it quite yet.

Anyhow, I like this thread because it keeps people (like me) from posting "trade Hudler" in the GDT's and every other line combo or call up, send down thread. It gives the people who like to talk about Hudler (good and bad) a central meeting place instead of sifting through different threads to see who responded to you or posted something about him. You have to realize, some people are so much of a Hudler slappie that if they see the words Trade/Hudler/Sucks or any other negative remark about him they take it as a personal attack, and they neg you. I, for one, am giving him a chance to prove his "potential." But that is not to be mistaken for me liking him. He still is a hunk of garbage, hold out taint on our wonderful organization. I hope he either does great and gets traded or does s***ty and Holland lets him walk July 1st. But don't let that get in the way of him helping this team win, and if he does, super, but I still hope come October 2012, Hudler is not on this team, or at least making what he is worth, and that is no more than $1.2M-ish.

That being said, good luck Jiri, 2 points in 2 games, your value is going up whether its trade or team value remains to be seen.

#2214246 Season-Long Lines Thread

Posted by LeftWinger on 11 October 2011 - 10:07 PM

because the answer to the question is so obvious that we shouldn't have to answer it.


waive miller, emmerton or mursak. whoever's playing the worst, showing the least potential. three defensive depth forwards that lack a physical presence. it's not like we're releasing a stud here.

nyquist isn't a play-maker??

...you just made it clear to the entire board that you didn't watch a single pre-season game, and that you freely comment on topics you know nothing about.

You just made it clear that you don't know what a playmaker is. Let me put it to you in layman's terms, Hudler needs someone to PASS HIM THE PUCK. Nyquist is a GOAL SCORER not A PASSER, aka a PLAYMAKER! He is a PlayFINISHER. When you have more goals than assists, that usually makes you a goal scorer. Here's an example, When Brett Hull was scoring all those goals in St. Louis, his PLAYMAKER was Adam Oates. In 1990-91 Hull had 86G and 45A, Oates had 25G 90A...Hudler needs to play with an Adam Oates, not a Brett Hull.

honestly...who the hell cares if we lose the worst one player of miller/mursak/emmerton!? how much longer could all three possibly have a place in our organization anyways?

and i never said that smith SHOULD be called up. i laid out circumstances - which could happen - where i'd like to see him called up. stop putting words in my mouth please.

How much longer? As long as Nyquist still has waiver exemptions, that is how long. The NHL is a business. You don't "give away" players for nothing. Until Nyquist has no more waiver exemptions, he will always be the one sent down before the three above mentioned players. PLUS every line you put has Smith in the #5 or #6 spot and Commodore not even there. Again, Commodore was signed to play in Detroit, not get waived. AND AGAIN, as long as Smith has waiver exemptions left, he will be the one sent back and forth, business is business.

Maybe you should remove the foot out of your mouth, because you have no clue how the business of the NHL works...

#2214143 Season-Long Lines Thread

Posted by LeftWinger on 11 October 2011 - 05:59 PM

Mursak will be back around the All-Star break. What happens at that point. Waive Emmerton or Miller so that Nyquist stays up? Move Nyquist back to Grand Rapids? Waive Mursak?

You, and the other "Nyquist now!" posters, have yet to answer this question.

Honestly, I think those folks live in a perfect world where if Emmerton/Mursak or Miller gets sent down, nobody would touch them and they would remain in the organization. None of those players would make it through waivers. Some folks just don't get the concept that in this organization, as long as a player is waiver exempt, they are the one going to be sent down...

...he probably also thinks that since Smith was recalled from GRR, that it means he is here for the rest of the season because in all his line combos Commodore is missing... He has to get it through his head that Smith/Nyquist/Tatar etc... would only be temporary fill-ins for injuries and will be the ones sent to Rapids when the team is healthy.

The more pressing matter will be when Mursak gets back, who goes? I know that is a little while from now, but if Emmerton keeps it up and Brunnstrom plays like he did in the pre-season, it's going to be a tough, tough decision to be made... I am all for the kids revolution, but I also like Miller...

#2214141 Season-Long Lines Thread

Posted by LeftWinger on 11 October 2011 - 05:49 PM

i've already changed my proposed lines in response to some of the more intelligent responses...lol

Filppula-Datsyuk-Cleary - - - - - or - - - - - Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Cleary
Franzen-Zetterberg-Bertuzzi - - - - - or - - - - - Franzen-Filppula-Bertuzzi



So Helm is lower on the totem pole than Nyquist? Hudler has already proven to us he needs a playmaker to set him up, Nyquist is a scorer and Eaves is a checker, Hudler would be useless on that line. Plus you're still of opinion that Commodore won't be with the Wings anymore? Smith will ONLY be here for injury call ups, he will not have a permanent position on this team until at least next season. (barring major injury.) I know you said these are lines you would like to see, but can you keep it within reality? I'd like to see Zetterberg - Datsyuk - Ovechkin but it ain't gonna happen.

I'd like to see Filppula on Datsyuk's line again, they seemed to work wonderfully in the playoffs together. I also liked the Cleary - Helm - Eaves combo. Bert - Zetterberg and Franzen are great too. That would leave Abby, Holmstrom and Miller (rotating with Brunner and Emmerton.) No I didn't forget about Hudler, of course he will go where he can score, but I just cannot bring myself to list him on the first line with Datsyuk without my fingers burning...:P :lol:

#2213975 Hudler?

Posted by LeftWinger on 10 October 2011 - 06:00 PM

1. You are hoping that a player of your favourite team has a subpar season?

Nothing personal, just business....

2. Doan is Coyotes' francise player so they won't trade him

Ray Bourque?

and he dislikes Detroit.

:blink: Uh, ya, should I find the Chelios video?

#2213952 Hudler?

Posted by LeftWinger on 10 October 2011 - 03:18 PM

It ain't no Hudler thread without me chiming in! :lol: Seriously, so far, he is doing what he needs to do, score points. We know he isn't a grinder or a great defender. He isn't gonna win you battles in the corners and he isn't gonna stand in front of the net with the results Holmstrom brings you. That being said, he is here to score goals. Whether he becomes the scoring some folks believe he can be, we don't know. Personally, if Detroit is going to keep him (Lord knows from the off season, nobody was interested in him) then I hope he has another subpar season, so when it comes time to become a UFA, he will not command an increase in pay. But if he does have a career year, I hope he doesn't expect too much more in pay, because there are more important poeple out there Holland needs to spend the Cap on and not be handcuffed by him again. Has he done enough to get traded? When it comes to trades, almost everyone is fair game. If Hudler keeps up a nice pace to have a career year, of course he becomes more attractive to the rest of the league, at least more than he was over the summer. When Mursak comes back, someone has to go, I don't think Holland would want to lose Emmerton/Brunstrom (unless he is playing bad) or Miller for nothing on Waiver's, so yes, someone will probably be traded. BUT, Holland isn't gonna trade Hudler/Filppula or anyone if it's not for the right price and the right player.

What would it take to get Doan in Detroit? Definitely not a sub-par Hudler alone, if at all. As much as I would love to be rid of Hudler, he isn't going to bring much back to Detroit unless he is putting up Franzen type numbers, then would Holland even trade him at all? Maybe if he feels he is not going to be able to re-sign him...

#2213741 Season-Long Lines Thread

Posted by LeftWinger on 09 October 2011 - 12:32 PM

Popular demand? :blink: :lol: just kidding...

Anyhow, I like line combo talk, but in reference to your lines that you want to see this year. Neither Commodore or Emmerton will be in GRR anytime soon, if at all, especially while Smith and Nyquist are waiver exempt, so just keep the dream.

I do like Filppula with Datsyuk.