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#2347512 Wings Looking For Defenseman

Posted by LeftWinger on 27 January 2013 - 07:07 PM

Speaking of Red Wings and defensemen, I always liked Steve Chiasson when he was here, and although he was the main piece in the Mike Vernon deal, I wish he was able to be part of that 1997 and 1998 Cup team...Speaking of Steve, on a side note to the Western v. Michigan game, it's nice to see his son following in his footsteps. Mike Chiasson, who was 8 when his father died in that car crash, plays of The University of Michigan. I am not sure if he has been drafted but he looked pretty solid last night before Western opened up the whoop ass...



The Wings could use a defender the likes of Chiasson right now...I remeber Chiasson and Vladdy playing together as a pair and totaling destroying opposing players.

#2347487 OHL vs. College Hockey Quality?

Posted by LeftWinger on 27 January 2013 - 06:23 PM

College hockey has made leaps and bounds compared to what it used to be.  There is a reason a lot of good young Canadian/European kids choose US Colleges for playing.  I do think though that there are still more scouts that watch the OHL compared to US schools, so you will get a lot more kids trying to go to the OHL to get "looked" at more. But you have to take your hat off to USA Hockey in todays world, from College's to USA Natioanal Teams in the way they have improved in the last 20 years.  I would say the quality of play is similar/very close, but I think the more talent still goes to CHL (which contains the OHL/WHL/Quebec Major) for the exposure...AHL is just that, minor leagues of men who are near NHL ready or past NHL quality. 



edit: It would be very cool to see the NCAA Champion take on the CHL Champion in a game for fun....of course there are other leagues in the USA that develope kids very well too the UNited States Hockey League being one of them (Justin Abdelkader played for Cedar Rapids)


Here is a link to a list off ALL Hockey Leagues around the world and as you can see the Canadian and USA list is vast:



#2345189 1/22 GDT : Stars 2 at Red Wings 1

Posted by LeftWinger on 22 January 2013 - 10:17 PM

We were not out-goaltended....we sucked.  If anything Dallas was out goaltended, if it weren't for Jimmy they would have scored 6 or 17...

#2345155 1/22 GDT : Stars 2 at Red Wings 1

Posted by LeftWinger on 22 January 2013 - 10:11 PM

Each and every game so far. Yes, they are terribly rusty/out of sync, but everyone is already calling for every player's head to roll. It's a short season, but we're only 1-2 (if we don't win tonight). Is there a reason to worry? Not yet. And yes, I realize it's a shortened season, but you have to give them a handful of games to hopefully start to gel.

...and there was no reason to worry last year (when we HAD Lids and Stu) when they couldn't score a goal...again, if it weren't for the new OT rules and a fluky home game win streak, they would have missed the playoffs last season...this has been a steady decline since 2009 and Holland refuses to make the deals he needs to make. Sure he went after Parise, but lost out, so he opted for Sammy? This team is stale.  It's been that way throughout last season and thus far this season.  There comes a time when change needs to happen.  Our top 6 needs a shakeup....he needs to get what he can for Franzen and Filppula and go from there. It that means acquiring a REAL #1 defender or a REAL Sniper, it doesn't matter. Franzen may not even get you a high draft pick they way he hsa turned out.....but at least someone will come up with some heart...and Nyquist is not the one.  He needs to get off the small skilled bus....one is fine, 8 is not...

#2345094 1/22 GDT : Stars 2 at Red Wings 1

Posted by LeftWinger on 22 January 2013 - 09:53 PM

Holland needs to make a huge trade or step aside...Franzen and Filppula need a change of scenery...They are our two most tradeable, expendable assets, yet Holland thinks that Franzen is Sergei Fedorov...

#2344720 Tomas Holmstrom Retires

Posted by LeftWinger on 22 January 2013 - 04:58 PM

Uh.....one question from the press? Really? 1000+ games and you only have one question? Sheesh!

#2344715 Tomas Holmstrom Retires

Posted by LeftWinger on 22 January 2013 - 04:50 PM

My favorite - even though it was pre-season:



WTF? :blink:  How does that ref even still have a job? Sheesh!

#2344712 Nino Niederreiter's camp has requested a trade

Posted by LeftWinger on 22 January 2013 - 04:47 PM

Little Neddy Nederlander? So I guess that Amigo gig isn't cutting it anymore...



Here is the phone call:


Garth Snow: You want what? You aren't famous enough yet to call your own shots...


Agent: No, he is infamous!


Snow: In-Famous? What are you talking about?


Neddy: You see Garth, I am In-famous its when you're MORE than famous. Yes, I am El Nino, I am not just famous, I am IN-famous! Trade me!

#2344677 Red Wings sign D Kent Huskins to 1-year, $750k contract

Posted by LeftWinger on 22 January 2013 - 03:58 PM

Yea, why have confidence in Holland?  All the playoff appearances, the Stanley Cups as recent as 2008 and the finals in 2009.  I mean, geez, he really has lost it.  I give up.  You win.

I think what he is referring to is all the playoffs appearances, the Stanley Cups, the Presidents Trophy's, etc....are all attributed to Scotty Bowman, Haken Andersson and in my opinion Bryan Murray as well.  This is the first team that Holland has tried to build by himself and no matter what the circumstances, he is failing at the moment.  It goes back to deciding to sign Franzen instead of Hossa (which Bowman would have NEVER done) and it is showing today with his inabilty to land what he needed in the off season and totalling busting a nut with Quincey.  Even though Holland has been the GM for a long time, Bowman has always been an advisor and has had a ton of influence on players coming to the team....this is no guarantee, but I have a feeling if Bowman would have been on those plane trips to Ryan Suter and Zach Parise, our chances would have been a lot better of coaxing them to play away from home.  Total specualtion, but Scotty always got his man...Holland has yet to do it. We will see what the future brings, but I do believe what Axe said, Holland was made to look a lot better when he had Bowman in his back pocket...


A long time ago Haken Andersson used to be the only guy to travel to the remotest area's to find the diamonds like Datsyuk, now, after all of his success, every team has a European scout that goes to Siberia to find these kids.  The Red Wings have lost the upper hand in that area.  Plus they lost when Scotty left for Chicago...


Holland has let this team slowly get worse and worse....it was headed that way with Lidstrom and Stuart, so no that is not the only reason...

#2344660 Red Wings sign D Kent Huskins to 1-year, $750k contract

Posted by LeftWinger on 22 January 2013 - 03:30 PM

Aggressive yes- Idiotic, classless and immature NO.


Of course I would not prefer White, Q or Cola....Wiz in Columbus is top pair dman, so thats a redundant arguement...like saying..."Well, Instead of Hossa we got Eaves"-Make it a level playing field here. If you like, I can give you an extended list of guys I would have preferred in Detroit who's talents are about the SAME as Wisneiski's....let me know if you would like that.

I have never hated TooToo- I was actually in favor of the signing which ( PUSHING THE ECHO BUTTON) why I like the Huskins signing. Big gritty guy, stands up for the team without the trailer trash shenanigans that go along with a toddler like Wiz and what, 5 million cheaper. YES, Yes, please. he isnt going to win the Norris, but he isnt a cheapshot artist with several dirty suspensions under his belt.

Character wins.


also, in all honesty, Wiz isn't gonna win a Norris either.  I was a huge proponent of sign Wiz that off season, but the money he got was too much for Detroit at the time. Plus his immature comments kind of turn me as well. Hey James, you see all these guys signing for top dollar compared to signing for less in Detriot...well who has more Cups, they top dollar guys or the guys who took less? Thanks, you are no longer a son of Michigan in my mind...


Well Kent, welcome to Detroit. Stay awhile, you will like it!

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#2344094 Lashoff

Posted by LeftWinger on 21 January 2013 - 10:50 PM

Lashoff has earned a spot over Kindl in my (e)book....:hysterical: Sorry, had to!


If Cola is out and Kindl isn't ready to be the #7, I would love to see Ouellet with a chance, or Sproul the Bruiser...

#2343811 1/21: Red Wings 4 at Blue Jackets 3 (SO)

Posted by LeftWinger on 21 January 2013 - 10:05 PM

Nyquist - Datsyuk - Filppula


Brunner - Zetterberg - Tootoo


Top 6....done.

#2343607 1/21: Red Wings 4 at Blue Jackets 3 (SO)

Posted by LeftWinger on 21 January 2013 - 09:24 PM

Franzen is NOT playing great...

#2343053 Everyone chill out!

Posted by LeftWinger on 21 January 2013 - 01:37 PM

...and before anyone mentions the salaries, Hossa only makes $1.3M more than Franzen's cap hit. So, no, Hossa is hardly way more expensive than Franzen. This debate will never be over, but only when Holland dumps Franzen and somehow gets Hossa back.

#2343048 Everyone chill out!

Posted by LeftWinger on 21 January 2013 - 01:32 PM

Really?  Franzen can't be the #1 goal scorer for a team.  Uh...  He was last year.  Hossa is a great regular season player but a playoff no-show. 



Hossa 15 points


Franzen 18 points




Hossa 6 points


Franzen 3 points




Hossa 0 points


Franzen 1 point


Hell even when Franzen had is great 2008 he had 18 points to Hossa's 26 points, the year they played together Hossa had 15 points to Franzen's 23 (a year in which Hossa was injured) so I would say playoffs they are pretty fricken even, so I am giving the win to Hossa because of his regular season dominance of Franzen...again, Franzen will NEVER score 40 goals here in Detroit. If nobody can look back and admit that Holland made a huge error in not keeping Hossa and opting for Franzen and Hudler, then you really need to take another look....


Just to add to this, since Hossa played here and left he has 261 points in 279 games 93% scoring.  Franzen in the same time period, 191 in 252 games 75% scoring. In that sme time period, Franzen is a +49 and Hossa is a +81...we can go on forever...


Hands down Hossa is far greater than Franzen ad Holland screwed the pooch on that one.