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#2238426 Stay classy Kesler

Posted by LeftWinger on 22 December 2011 - 07:33 PM

Here is why he is how he is...

Despite growing up in Michigan, he was a Minnesota North Stars fan.[11] As a young hockey player, Kesler looked up to North Stars center and fellow Livonia native Mike Modano as a role model. He has also listed Joe Sakic of the Quebec Nordiques and Colorado Avalanche as a favorite player and team during his childhood. - Wikipedia

..ok, it's fine to admire you hometown hero, and hell, even root for him. But to grow up in the Detroit hockey market and claim to be an Avalanche fan...no there is where the problem is.

After two seasons with the USNTDP, Kesler accepted a scholarship to play college hockey at Ohio State University for the Ohio State Buckeyes of the Central Collegiate Hockey Association (CCHA). -wikipedia

...buckeye, need I say more?

He also was tutored while earning his high school diploma while playing with the US National Team Development Program...can you say pampered *****?

So there are a few reason's why he feels that he should not get hit like that...pansy.

#2238401 Jimmy Howard - "Iím just sick and tired of getting run over.

Posted by LeftWinger on 22 December 2011 - 06:25 PM

minus 6 neg on my post for speaking the truth. guess some of our fans run away and are gutless too.

Ya, some users will just neg you and not debate the reason's why. The Wing's have been "soft" for a while. Even when they had Brad May, they didn't play him enough to be considered tough. They need a full time player(s) that will fight every night if they have to while defending their team. Everytime we play St. Louis Backes runs around and knocks players around like he is on a mission, and he NEVER has to answer for it. You are right, teams know that they can rough our players up without any recourse. Ericsson is here for his size and (what was presumed to be) toughness, but he does nothing. More times than not, our players just watch as opposing teams take liberties against their teammates. How many times does Pavel have to defend himself? Howard? Zetterberg getting kneed? Come one! If Aaron Downey was stil playing and on this team, Kesler would have been eating teeth for dinner.

The problem is, and I wouldn't trade the 2008 Cup for anything, but Holland said it in the game 6 post game interview when he said, "Who said you couldn't win with Europeans?" That is his bag now, if not soft Euro's, then soft Euro-type players. When he does draft or sign a North-American style hockey player, they get minimal playing time or get stuck in GRR for 6 years until they are groomed to NOT be that type of player. Which is why Smith will not provide any changes to the toughness of the team, which is why Holland will NEVER try to acquire Weber at anytime. Which is why Hudler is still on this team, forget that nobody wanted him, just sit him for someone who is gonna actually throw a body check. Which is why Mike Commodore gets ZERO playing time. Which is why Holland didn't offer Wiz a contract or Jovo or Willie Mitchell. There is a reason why this team's D is leading the league in scoring and it isn't because the clear the front of the net. I will take the wins, but at what cost if Jimmy or Datsyuk or Zetterberg cannot play 100% because of a "Back Injury" or "Upper Body Strain" what then?

I was never a huge fan of McCarty, but at least he did what he was paid to do. Hell, even Maltby dropped the gloves every so often when he felt he needed to. Last year, when Brad Stuart (who at the time was arguably your best defender at that point of the season) was elbowed in the jaw in calgary, Abdelkader just looked at it happening and did nothing. That was unacceptable and last night's goal when Jimmy got ran, goal or not, penalty or not, Hansen should have at least been eating Louisville for the evening. For player like Bertuzzi to just watch it happen makes me sick. Holland needs to stop drafting the small skilled players or the big skilled players, we have enough of those here and down in GRR to last 20 or so years, he needs to draft and acquire big players that are gonna bruise the f*** out of someone if they take liberties on his teammates. You may not like Avery's antics off the ice, but all be damned if someone is going to get away with this crap while he is on the ice. Too bad Holland is going to stay with the same formula, and I wouldn't be surprised if we see the same lineup tonight in Calgary. They are good, borderline great, but they are soft, and until they address that issue, teams will continue to do what they are doing to them night in and night out...

#2238388 Jimmy Howard - "Iím just sick and tired of getting run over.

Posted by LeftWinger on 22 December 2011 - 05:46 PM

There was multiple times the wings shoulda dropped the mitts last night, instead they gave a "facewash" or pushed and shoved. Im getting pretty sick of it..

...again, who is gonna drops the gloves? They don't have anyone that will do it enough to even put a smidgen of a scare into any team. I am not saying they need a goon with no skills, but someone who is at least gonna stand up for their team.

No way that ever would have happened if someone like the late great Bob Probert was still around. We need someone that can keep up with todays pace and contribute some points here and there and that other teams will think twice about when taking a run at jimmy. Or maybe just keep some beast chained up at the end of the bench and throw him the odd chicken bone to keep him satisfied till we need him. There is still a place in hockey for tough guys.

IT doesn't even have to be a "Bob Probert" it could be a "Martin LaPointe" or a "Bob Rouse" or a "Gerard Gallant" or even a "Sean Avery." Problem is, Holland and Babcock do not like nor will they have on their team full time someone who is a fighter.

#2237721 Quebec culture minister upset at Habs

Posted by LeftWinger on 21 December 2011 - 06:27 AM

I'm from Montreal & here's my opinion on it.

A coach that wants to coach the Montreal Canadiens should not be hired for his language but for his knowledge and what he will bring to the team. All tho, I do think that the coach should take french courses and address to the french media in french. As you guys know, Quebec is a french state and not an English one, therefore our first language here in Montreal is french. It would be like bringing a russian / swedish / chinese coach that doesn't speak english coming and coaching a U.S. team. I'm sure you would want him to go and learn English to address to the media in English wouldn't you?

...that's what I say! Learn f&cking English if you are gonna work and live here! :hysterical:

#2237720 End of Detroit News Wings Talk Forum?

Posted by LeftWinger on 21 December 2011 - 06:25 AM

No more Red Wings/Hockey forum of DETNEWS? What, did Valente and Foster take over the sports forum there?

#2237719 12/21 GDT : Red Wings 2 at Canucks 4

Posted by LeftWinger on 21 December 2011 - 06:24 AM

Pumped for this, making the trip over from Victoria. I'll be behind Howard for the first and third.

That is just not right, you should support Howard through EVERY period! Not just two of them! :hysterical:

#2237687 12/21 GDT : Red Wings 2 at Canucks 4

Posted by LeftWinger on 20 December 2011 - 08:09 PM

Go Wings!

Just would like to say for the record, I do take credit for the Helm & Cleary reunion. I asked and asked and asked for it, and when Babs did it, viola! It seems it doesn't matter who they put on the line with them, those two just have chemistry that seem to be igniting this team. Eaves, Conner and Miller, all three have thrived playing with these two. Good on ya, Babcock! Whatever you do (barring injuries) DO NOT split this tandem up.

#2236728 Vintage Red Wings Brawl

Posted by LeftWinger on 17 December 2011 - 05:21 PM

When did they ever have one person on the team that would stickup for a teammate let alone the whole line.


Now this was awesome. I remember this from my teenage days. This hockey right here is what turned me into a Red Wings fan.

#2236702 Vintage Red Wings Brawl

Posted by LeftWinger on 17 December 2011 - 02:28 PM

One thing that stands out after watching that video again, our team today couldn't hold the jocks of that 1997 team PLUS the NHL as a whole pales in comparison to that era of the NHL. Gary Bettman has ruined the NHL. Period.

#2236700 Vintage Red Wings Brawl

Posted by LeftWinger on 17 December 2011 - 02:16 PM

Correct me if i am wrong but this took place on 3/27/1997

You have been corrected. March 26th, 1997. My BDay is March 12th, and my buddy just happened to pick up some tickets to this game and took me there for my bday. We were losing at the time of the brawl and I remember us looking at each other and saying we don't even care if we win at this point, it was absolutely THE best game I have ever been too...

...still have the stub.

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#2236563 How Are The (former) UFA's That We All Wanted Doing?

Posted by LeftWinger on 16 December 2011 - 05:15 PM

Ok, we talked about these guys all summer long, none of which were signed by the Wings. Lets see how they are doing thus far and if we are missing out at all...

1. Jusi Jokinen : 4G 15A 19pts.

2. James Wisniewski : 1G 15A 16pts.

3. Kevin Bieska : 3G 11A 14pts.

4. Christian Ehrhoff : 2G 12A 14pts.

5. Jaromir Jagr : 10G 16A 26pts.

6. Brooks Laich : 7G 12A 19pts.

7. Steve Montador : 4G 5A 9pts.

8. Joni Pitkanen : 3G 9A 12pts.

9. Tomas Kaberle : 0G 13A 13pts. (between 2 teams. He does have 4A in 3 games with MTL)

10.Ed Jovanovski : 2G 3A 5pts.

11.Alex Tanguay : 5G 15A 20pts.

and we got:

Ian White : 4G 11A 15pts.

...of course Commie hasn't played enough to even gauge him, Chris Conner either, although he has brought a lot of spunk to this team. Considering the salaries that the defenders we all talked about received, I think we made the right choice with White. I guess the only one I still kinda wish we took a gamble on was Jagr. 26 points would be third on our team right now and who knows what that total would be playing with the best player in the league as his center, Pavel Datsyuk. Hudler is doing just as good as Jokinen and costs a bit less, so it seems that worked out too!

I still hope somehow Holland can get that sniper, but I am not gonna name any names, because I at one time wanted each one of these guys and well, this show's why I am a fan and not a GM! :lol:

also, I didn't put the +/- of these guys, but I will note that alot of them are in the -. As noted last night, Ian White is leading the west at +18 and is having a career year.

#2236448 Like A BOSS

Posted by LeftWinger on 16 December 2011 - 07:40 AM

If that were Cindy, he would've flopped all over the place both times. I cannot believe there is any thought that Cindy is half the complete player Datsyuk is...and that is NOT said through rose glasses.

#2236446 12/15 GDT : Red Wings 3 at Predators 4

Posted by LeftWinger on 16 December 2011 - 07:35 AM

Some of you guys are overreacting here big time. The Wings played a perfect road game for the most part. Yah, there were some mistakes made by Howard, but he has played lights out all season so he is entitled to a bad game every now and then. The thing that stuck out to me is that there were times tonight where Kronners and Stu looked lost in our end. They just kind of scramble around the zone when they play together for some reason, so look for Babs to split them up.

- Lidstrom and White were fantastic tonight. Weber had a good night, but I think Nick's all around play showed why he is still the best defenseman in the game
- Pavel had another great game. Sure he missed the open net, but that happens and he has been our best player for the last long while and is slowly getting close to 1st place in points in the league. That entire first line has been outstanding. Highlight of my night was Pavs knocking Weber down... I laughed so hard
- Zetterberg is really coming to form with shooting the puck and controlling play... it is really nice to see
- Ericsson has got to go. I am so tired of his lame play. He simply has no potential imo. If we can somehow create a package deal for Semin that invovles Ericsson going the other way, please pull the trigger Kenny.

Bottom line is that we saw many good things from the Wings tonight, and I am not worried one bit about this team

LOL! We both got negged twice for stating the obvious. Either someone doesn't think Jimmy made a few mistakes (hey, he is human, it's not like we said he sucks) or we have an Ericsson slappy who is appalled by anyone saying something bad about the worst defender on the team. Anyhow your analysis is just as accurate as mine was as was a few others tonight. Great game played overall, Howard showed he was human today, so what, it's not like he is slumping, it's one game. And Ericsson just proved again that he is not worth his NTC overpayment contract...anyhow, I gave ya a +1 because nobody who gives out negg's is man/or woman enough to say why and debate why. Spineless, slappies...

#2236402 12/15 GDT : Red Wings 3 at Predators 4

Posted by LeftWinger on 15 December 2011 - 11:18 PM

Ericsson has got to go...

...great game by the good guys, just couldn't hold on. I knew that if they hung on to only one goal down near the end they would get a power play and tie it. And they did. And then momentum took over. Jimmy had a bad night, he is entitled to one. First goal not much he could've done, but the second goal was a bad rebound to give up, the penalty he committed was obvious (Wings gotta improve that penalty kill, that is the only place they are lacking (besides Ericsson)) and then the clear up the glass. So, basically, besides the first goal, the three were his fault. Oh well, his loss, his mistakes, he is entitled. Too bad it was to a Central foe and we basically lost 4 points.

I thought by the way they dominated that this was gonna be a slam dunk win, I guess they thought that as well and played lackadaisical the last few minutes. I agree with the above poster, we sure do need that sniper. Hudler has been fine (:puke: , excuse me) but he is only on the 2nd line by default. We need that pure goal scorer up there. But that is not the reason they lost the game. Too bad, it was a fun game to watch for a Wings fan....for about 55 mins.

OK, so the Wings "great play" somehow allowed 4 unanswered goals. But even worse, it appears that the Detroit News has "improved" their website to the extent that they've screwed up the Red Wings forum. Anybody know what those dickheads (the News) have been up to??

you get what you pay for....bust some more union's Detroit, go ahead, see where your city and services go...down the toilet.

#2236116 12/15 GDT : Red Wings 3 at Predators 4

Posted by LeftWinger on 15 December 2011 - 12:38 PM

Conner out, eh? Well there goes the Chemistry! Babcock will surely f%ck up the line combos now...especially if the "beaten up" player sits too....Damn injury bugs. Why can't Ericsson get a little bug to put him out for a few?