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#2301350 Babcock and Holland want to keep Homer.

Posted by LeftWinger on 14 May 2012 - 08:41 PM

So it is of one negger's opinion that losing Emmerton/Mursak and possibly not being able to sign Parise is worth re-signing Holmstrom... I get it. I hope you enjoy a worse season than last year, because if it was not for the 23 game win streak at home and they played like they did on the road, they wouldn't have even made the playoffs. But just keep re-signing players from the 90's, just keep losing top prospects for washed up players...oh wait, you can always trade a first round draft pick for them later in their career's...that'll make up for it all! Holland re-signs Holmstrom and loses youth because of it, this team will be in trouble for years, indeed.

I understand your love for Homer, but there are only so many roster spots to be handed out. Hey, here's an idea, lets sign Homer and not sign one of Helm or Abby, that'll make it better and open up a roster spot... Nobody here can convince any of us that re-signing Holmstrom will make this team better than they were last season. Thank you Homer for all the years, but please, call it a career...

Parise and Homer is better than either.

I'm fine with putting Emmerton through waivers if it comes to that.

I'm not huge on bringing Homer back but if its a case of him and Lidstrom or neither, then the decision is an easy one.

Sign them.

Yes, but signing Parise and Homer you are exposing Emmerton AND Mursak to waivers or trade. I understand wanting Lidstrom back, especially if he heals 100% from his injury, but to lose TWO young players for the sake of an aging Holmstrom who will be the 13th forward most nights..I dunno, if it doesn't affect Hollands ability to pursue Parise and Suter, then I guess...but I hate, year after year, sacrificing youth for "One more Shot." Which BTW, that "SHOT" seems to get further and further away from the target each year...

#2301346 Babcock and Holland want to keep Homer.

Posted by LeftWinger on 14 May 2012 - 08:12 PM

Homer needs to retire. We already have 13 forwards (once Helm and Abby are re-signed) and will be getting (hopefully) a Parise type player for Datsyuk. That already pushes one of Mursak or Emmerton off the team, now you want to re-sign Homer and push both of them off the team? So signing Homer is better than keeping Mursak and Emmerton? Of course in my scenario, I get rid of Mursak, but I am NOT signing Homer at the expense of any of them, and God forbid at the expense of not signing Parise...Thanks for the memories Homer, but it over. This team needs its youth to remain. Bottom line, if they sign Holmstrom, and Parise, then they lose BOTH Emmerton and Mursak and Sheahan never comes up. If they don't want to lose one of those, then they cannot sign Parise, so in order to get Lidstrom back and keep some youth, you are passing on Parise and siging Holmstrom...

Parise and Emmerton far better than Holmstrom and Mursak...sorry Homer lovers...

#2301299 Babcock and Holland want to keep Homer.

Posted by LeftWinger on 14 May 2012 - 02:17 PM

Sounds enough of a biggie for you to whine and complain about getting negs and thinking karma applies.

It's an arbitrary indicator. People on this board need to nut up and get over it.

Nah, not a biggie. I only complain when people neg for no reason. I would take 3000 negs if folks had the nuts enough to explain why they disagree. Whatever... It's just funny when people say Homer is too old and needs to go, they get a plus, then I agree and get a neg. Sure, maybe it bothers me more than it should, but if folks would say why, it would be nice. But, ya, I should know by now, they won't and it shouldn't bother me...

#2301192 Would you?

Posted by LeftWinger on 14 May 2012 - 07:00 AM

I was referring to the Minnesota Wild, not the state. But he did play there a lot in college too because of all the college teams in Minnesota. He's certainly spent his fair share of time there. He also has connections to Dany Heatley and Tom Gilbert from Wisconsin and they play for the Wild. So I think if you want to talk connections, he has more connections to Minnesota than Detroit.

You are hilarious...Hey, Chris Chelios is great friends with Ryan's uncle Gary, so he has more connections to the Red Wings PLUS he played with Patrick Eaves in Ann Arbor, so there, na na na boo boo!

#2301113 Patrick Kane at it again

Posted by LeftWinger on 13 May 2012 - 08:48 PM

No problem bringing this gem back.

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egads! Who is the 40 yr old holding the beer? Is that Stiffler's mom? Kane may still be acting up, but his chicks at least are getting better looking...

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#2301101 Babcock and Holland want to keep Homer.

Posted by LeftWinger on 13 May 2012 - 08:39 PM

I plussed you for having a pornstar in your avatar.

As for Homer, he probably should retire. He's accomplished a tremendous amount in his career and his given this team a lot. At this point, he has nothing to prove and this team needs to get younger and hungrier. I don't want this to turn into Draper and Maltby all over again.

Ya! Thanks for noticing! Anyhow, someone is just going thru and negging everything I say now. It's not because they disagree with me, I know this because someone gets pluses for list the top 10 things Holland will say and I simply reply, nice to meet you Mr. Holland and it gets a neg. No biggie. When their son grows up swallowing a sword, they at least will know why...

#2301089 Babcock and Holland want to keep Homer.

Posted by LeftWinger on 13 May 2012 - 08:15 PM

Wow, lots of Homer love still I guess. At least by all the negs. Of course no one man enough to debate it....

Let me ask the negger, do you like the team you had last season? Sure they were 1st overall in February, but that was because of an anomaly. Think about this, they won an NHL record 23 straight home wins, yet still could not bury the rest of the league...why? Because they stunk on the road, their PP and PK stunk. Look how early the 2001-02 Wings put away the rest of the league and they didn't even sniff a 23 game win streak...If you can honestly tell us that this team, exactly like it was last season, is a Stanley Cup caliber team, then please, explain it to us, don't just neg and run. Of course, just like usual, you won't...

edit: I did what I could to bring everyone back to plus. It's asinine to neg someone just because they think Homer should retire...

#2301055 Babcock and Holland want to keep Homer.

Posted by LeftWinger on 13 May 2012 - 05:51 PM

Same as the one that got eliminated in the first round.

Worse, since there will be no 23 game win streak anomoly....

1. I like our team
2. When we were healthy, we were 1st overall and then injuries hit and we could not recover
3. We explored the market and had some interest in some of the UFAs but felt the prices were too high
4. I feel that Homer still has some gas left in the tank and that bringing him back for another season is the right thing to do
5. We feel that we have some kids who are ready to take that next step and be bigger factors in the success of our team
6. Having Kyle Quincey for a full season should benfit hiim and the Detroit Red Wings
7. It is a very tough league right now and we got over 100 points which is nothing to sneeze at
8. There is not much separating 15th from 1st in the West.
9. We have some cap space to use and we will wait until the trade deadline to see what our options are
10. We will look for ways to improve our hockey club but it has to make sense.

Nice to meet you Mr. Holland!

#2301012 Babcock and Holland want to keep Homer.

Posted by LeftWinger on 13 May 2012 - 02:21 PM

Package? What is this, Hossa/Kopecky? Just say no to Holmstrom, its time to go. Sign Homer at the expense of who? Typicalf****** Holland. Guess we can forget Parise and look forward to Samuelsson.....that better not be the plan!

#2300943 Would you?

Posted by LeftWinger on 13 May 2012 - 04:49 AM

throw an offer sheet at the Sens Karlsson?
this kid is the real deal and could be Nic's heir apparent,how many 1st rounders would it cost us?
all this talk of Suter and Parise, Kennys or the Wings policy is not to do this
but we may have to do something like this to get a top D into the org.
Maybe the 2 Minny boys wanna play for there home state now and not entertain the
other offers they'll get. Which will leave us waiting another year and try for Weber or act outta the ball park.

question, would you have Sam Gagner over Hudler?
Gagner is a R/H shot and has posted 40+ pts the past 5 years.
his ppg is higher than Huds and he is 5 years younger. The
current contracts are similar, both may seek a rise?

getting help for Pav if Parise doesn't come. Get him some help from home,Nikolai Kulemin a good 2 way guy with some size and how about a cheeky offer for Alexander Radulov? The guy is a great player, but could he curb his antics off the ice? Maybe Pav could curtail this in him. failing that one of the unhearlded players at the WC is Swiss league top scorer Damien Brunner who is leading the Swiss in scoring at the WC and is also a R/H shot. the sp on him is; A slick offensive forward who can shoot as well as pass the puck. Has great wheels and hands. Plays a gritty game.

anyway Babs is over there watching GROUP HELSINKI so im sure he's scouting as well as watching the canadiens.

I am not sure where the misunderstanding came from, but Ryan Suter is from Madison, Wisconsin. He played two years in Ann Arbor, MI. for the US National Development Under 18 team and one yr for the Badgers before reporting to Nashville. He has never played youth hockey in Minnesota. And considering his time in Ann Arbor, and the lack of NHL in Wisconsin, signing in Detroit would be more of a homecoming than Minnesota.

Edit: Wow, negged? So, ok, Minnesota will be a homecoming then, even though he has never played there or lived there...I plan on having a homecoming in Hawaii next week. Jack ass...

#2300877 Franzen has a broken nose ?

Posted by LeftWinger on 12 May 2012 - 03:27 PM

Franzen's work ethic was never questioned while playing for Sweden. That is always the knock on European players, they play harder when it comes to International Play than in the NHL. It's always been said that the Europeans value International Championships higher than the Stanley Cup. When young Europeans are playing hockey, they dream of winning an Olympic gold, when young North American's are playing they dream of hoisting the Stanley Cup...that just the way it has always been. So of course Franzen is going to play harder and with more heart for Sweden...it's just how it goes...

#2300617 Report: Jagr to test free agent market

Posted by LeftWinger on 11 May 2012 - 04:51 AM

For the right price I'd ta.........nah, no thanks! We have plenty of roster players, need Parise and Suter. I'd rather have Nyquist up permanently than Jagr....

#2300578 Suter most likely out of Nashville

Posted by LeftWinger on 10 May 2012 - 06:50 PM

That worked out good for Wiznoooooooooooski !!

Yes, my point exactly. But just like Wiz, players do go to bottom feeders for a bigger payday than if they wanted to actually win. Marian Hossa passed up a lifetime deal worth nearly $10M per season from Edmonton to sign in Detroit for that one season to try to win. He was willing to stay for even less, but Holland chose Franzen and Hudler over him...just goes to show, there are some players that actually take less money to win...

#2300260 Happy Birthday Steve Yzerman!

Posted by LeftWinger on 09 May 2012 - 06:04 AM

Happy Birthday Steve! Thanks for all the great moments and memories!

Happy Birthday baby! Thanks for all the great moments and memories! :lol: 18 years together! Love ya!

#2300124 What's Kenny Holland's Offseason Plan?

Posted by LeftWinger on 08 May 2012 - 03:22 PM

Well, now since I have had time to calm a bit down from my disappointment for the Wings this season, and since the Cap may go up to $70M, I have re-tooled my 2012-13 roster a bit. I have left Franzen alone and re-signed Lids too. But it is imparative that Suter and Parise get signed!

Zach Parise ($7.500m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Johan Franzen ($3.955m)
Gustav Nyquist ($0.875m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Valtteri Filppula ($3.000m)
Danny Cleary ($2.800m) / Darren Helm ($1.250m) / Todd Bertuzzi ($2.075m)
Drew Miller ($0.838m) / Justin Abdelkader ($1.000m) / Patrick Eaves ($1.200m)
Cory Emmerton ($0.533m) /
Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Ryan Suter ($7.500m)
Ian White ($2.875m) / Nicklas Lidstrom ($6.200m)
Jonathan Ericsson ($3.250m) / Brendan Smith ($0.875m)
Jakub Kindl ($0.883m) /
Jimmy Howard ($2.250m)
Tomas Vokoun ($1.250m)

SALARY CAP: $70,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $67,142,045; BONUSES: $37,500
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $2,357,955

If Eaves isn't gonna be healthy, then get Moen for $1.5M. The only thing I didn't do was re-sign Quincey. I didn't want to make Smith #7 and there is NO WAY Ericsson or Quincey will be #7, not for the cash they will be making. Offer Quincey $3M, if he wants more, I will be glad to acquire the #1 and #3 draft pick for him.

edit: negged? Guess you don't want Suter, Parise AND Lidstrom? Ok then....sure would like to hear your ideas...