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#2204087 Who the Wings Targeted in UFA

Posted by LeftWinger on 16 August 2011 - 07:19 PM

I know I was a huge advocate for Wiz, but considering the situation and the over gross salary he got, I am glad Holland didn't sign him. All in all, I am super happy with our changes, other than the exact names, Holland has done pretty much what I was hoping for: Two right handed defensmen, who happen to be tougher and more physical. The re-signed Miller and Eaves, allowed Draper and Osgood to retire too. The only thing that he couldn't do, was land that ligit top 6 forward (or trade Piddler.) So I am very happy with the guys he got, and even happy with the guys he tried to get (Vokoun would've been sweet, but he obviously wanted a starting role, even though he was offered the same contract from Detroit first.) Just get rid of Piddler and the off-season will be nearly perfect!

#2204045 Crosby's 2012 Season now in Question

Posted by LeftWinger on 16 August 2011 - 03:31 PM

If he comes back, how long will the suspension be to the player who LEGALLY checks him and knocks him back out?

#2203905 Crosby's 2012 Season now in Question

Posted by LeftWinger on 15 August 2011 - 07:37 PM

This times 1000000000000. Hopefully this doesnt ruin the conversation, but In all seriousness, people need to wake up.

:hysterical: You got a -2 and I got a -5 for the comments about this! I wonder if we got negged because of the subject matter or the fact that most sheeple are walking down that narrow hallway? Anyhow I gave you plus to try to bring you back up...

I wish Crosby a happy and healthy life... I'd like to see him come back and try to play, but one more hit and its scrambled eggs... and all this talk about him going to the Hall? I understand that the "stats" he has is your guy's argument on him being there, that's fine, but if we are saying if Crosby doesn't play one more game and he still has "stats" that are good enough to get him in the Hall, then Osgood is a shoe-in and NONE of you who are arguing FOR Crosby to get there can say Osgood doesn't have the "stats" to get him in based on other goalies in the Hall... Thank you guys for putting an end to the Osgood/Hall of Fame argument...that means #30 will rise to the rafters as well (as it should be!)

#2203844 Brunnström to try out for Wings

Posted by LeftWinger on 15 August 2011 - 03:24 PM

I really don't mean to make this a Hudler thread... but Mursak has to earn a spot in the lineup first. And beyond that, the Cleary/Zetterberg/Hudler and Cleary/Datsyuk/Hudler lines were absolutely DEADLY combinations last season.


So how about we start with:




The third line here is basically a ramped up version of the fourth line in the previous lineup. This lineup also allows for less even strength time for Homer while still keeping him in an effective role; his line has some offensive talent but can be used as a checking line as it is anchored by Abdelkader. I would expect, though, to have something closer to the first lineup but with Abdelkader instead of Brunnstrom.

how about we start with NOT putting Hudler on the first line? Here I thought I would be the one to mention Hudler first.... I hope that Brunnstrom comes in and makes Hudler even MORE expendable...

On topic, this is a very exciting signing...for whatever it is he'll make, I am sure he will earn every penny of it... 20 pts for $500,000. Sure beats 37 pts. for $2.89M...

#2203759 Crosby's 2012 Season now in Question

Posted by LeftWinger on 15 August 2011 - 05:16 AM

Crosby's a member of the Illuminati? So we've got CEOs of multi-national corporations, international banksters, and a...hockey player? :o

They're infiltrating every aspect of society, folks.

...if people only realized how true this statement really is.

#2203690 Crosby's 2012 Season now in Question

Posted by LeftWinger on 14 August 2011 - 03:10 PM

Karma for carrying Matt Cooke on their team.


Karma for all the diving he did/does when he barely gets tapped....now he knows what a real hit feels like!

...besides, he come back and play half the season and they will "give" him another trophy, the Masterson Trophy. Then they will fill the NHL airwaves full of talk about what heart and dedication he has, and how he is the only "true champion" for coming back from his injury. I can see Eddie Olczyk (and Carmen) wiping the jizz off his face already.

I have no sympathy for him as a player (as a person I do hope he is ok to live a nice life,) this is what happens when you start believing the hype and think you are bigger than the game...the game stands up at the blueline and knocks you out...Eric Lindros part II...

If he comes back, great, but if he is done, I won't lose any sleep over it.

This is a bummer. I wonder how the Pens will adapt if he misses an extended period of time again.

They'll trade us Joe Morrow for Jiri Hudler and Jakub Kindl.... :ninja: (only in my dreams)

#2203412 Third line players who suck

Posted by LeftWinger on 12 August 2011 - 09:03 AM

Hudler is what he is, a small OFFENSIVE player, with not a lot of defensive awareness. There are a s*** load of them around the league and used properly they SCORE POINTS and some have conracts that make Hudler's look like chicken feed. He needs to be used as a sniper (Brett Hull type) if the Wings are unable to create that invironment for him then they should have traded him a long time ago. I'm not saying he would ever be as good as Hull but on the right line I think he could become a 60/70 point producer. Defensively I don't think he is any worse than Fransen, and I sure as hell don't think Fransen is any more physical.

As much as I dislike hudler as a player, I can agree with everything you said! I hope he becomes a 70+ point scorer, I really do, but next year so if he re-signs here it will be cheap. If he gets 70 pts this year, he get $5M.

#2203400 This writer has no clue

Posted by LeftWinger on 12 August 2011 - 07:39 AM

What is funny, I think, is the fact that this guy says Kronner is top 4 and Letang is top 2 in the league. Granted Kronwall may not be top 2, but as Letanf showed when Crosby went down, he is not a top 2 defenseman.

On the subject, Hemsky would be nice here, but at the expense of Helm or Kronwall is just idiotic. Where can I apply for a job, because I can (and have) proposed silly trades like this for free, I would love to get paid to do it!

#2203393 Third line players who suck

Posted by LeftWinger on 12 August 2011 - 06:17 AM

Calm down. Eva's point was that Hudler's producing OK for a third liner.

...and that, according to his thread title, Holmstrom sucks. My point is Holmstrom at 37 points is 100,000,000 times better than Hudler, at any point in his career.... Hudler will never be anywhere near the player Holmstrom was/is/will be.

#2203390 Third line players who suck

Posted by LeftWinger on 12 August 2011 - 05:18 AM

Given all of the Hudler hate on the board, and the fact that people think his performance last season was terrible, horrible, whatever description you like, I thought I would ask this question.

What third-line (based on ice time) players around the league do you think 'suck' who plays a scoring role, yet still put up around 40 points? I'd like to see the list of names this board comes up with just so we have an idea of who is having comparable seasons to what Hudler did last year. I'll start it off with a few names:

Mason Raymond, Vancouver
Tomas Kopecky, Chicago
Devin Setoguchi, San Jose
Anthony Stewart, Atlanta
Tomas Holmstrom, Detroit
James van Riemsdyk, Philadelphia
Brian Boyle, Rangers

There are a great deal more out there. Anyone care to list them? Who out there is a terrible player who played in a scoring role and put up similar numbers to Hudler?

How about notably worse numbers? We can bring up these guys:

Ruslan Fedotenko, Rangers
Marc Savard, Boston
Jason Arnott, Washington
Radek Dvorak, Atlanta

:hysterical: You are so funny, first of all Holmstrom is 38 years old, and he is STILL out performing Hudler at 26. Same amount of points last year in the same amount of games, but Holmstrom's points are earned in a way that Hudler could NEVER understand NOR would he ever attempt. I'd take one Holmstrom over four Hudler's anytime and anyday. We aren't even going to mention Holmstrom's worth to this team over Hudler in the the playoffs... You are just taking your love for Hudler way too far now bud, just stop, please, stop.

#2200700 Would We Have Won In 2002 If ...

Posted by LeftWinger on 24 July 2011 - 08:56 AM

Could've, Should've, Would've...I understand wanting to debate this, and I hope its not to bring Osgood down any, but honestly you could say, IF to anything. I for one, believe Osgood should go to the HOF AND get his number retired by the Wings, but I do agree, if it weren't for Hasek, the Wings (even with all their HOF's) would not have beaten Colorado in 2002. Which just proves that "your gramma" could not have won playing behind the Wings, because even with the HOF's playing that year, they still needed Hasek to stand on his chin. Thus proving when Osgood won, it wasn't only because of the players in front of him, he won because of his abilities as well, and if it weren't for a MVP 3 on 5 shift by Zetterberg in 2008, Osgood would've hands down been the Conn Smythe winner. He still should've in my opinion, he came in and won like 9 games in a row or something like that. I know this is not a Osgood HOF debate, sorry...

#2199229 Chris Osgood announces retirement

Posted by LeftWinger on 19 July 2011 - 05:22 AM

:lol: at a -2 for saying Osgood/Draper should retire and for Holland to spend money... Oh boo hoo, someone says my little Ozzie should retire... Do you think he should play until he is 70? He is too injured, do you want a back-up that'll win for you in the playoffs? I never said they suck, but just that its over, they should retire and Holland should spend the money elsewhere, but again, some folks just think the "old Wings" should stay here and never retire and if you say something different, they'll neg you.

I hope this conference is to announce his retirement. The Wings need to acquire Nabokov to really push Jimmy to the next level, Osgood cannot do that.

#2199144 Chris Osgood announces retirement

Posted by LeftWinger on 18 July 2011 - 07:58 PM

I sure hope it is retirement....Does Holland really think Osgood is the best back up option? I guess Nabokov isn't worth Hudler to him....or is it the Isle's dont want Hudler?

edit: I am a huge history buff, but damn I am growing tired of nostalgia on this team...Draper, Osgood, it's time to go, hang them up, retire! SPEND THE MONEY HOLLAND! TRADE HUDLER!

#2198492 Backup Goalie?

Posted by LeftWinger on 14 July 2011 - 10:56 AM

Wow, how does Barrie get a neg for this post??
I voted Wildcard too..look out little red minus button!

Just because someone doesn't like the fact that his opinion is Osgood is done. Instead of replying to his post and debating that they think Osgood isn't done, some narrow minded user just hits neg because they love Osgood and want him here even when he is 60. The neg button should come with an explanation requirement. You should be required to explain why you disagree with someone so much that you give them a neg...

I like Osgood too, but I also believe he is done. Does that mean I think he sucks? No. He is just too injured to be the best option at back up goalie...it's just reality.

Hudler for Nabokov....boom...make it happen Kenny!

#2197759 RFA/UFA Signings

Posted by LeftWinger on 10 July 2011 - 08:02 PM

But just so I can get this straight, you think Hudler is a *****, right? And you want to replace him with Semin? Can I get you to confirm for me that you'd rather have Semin than a *****?

I don't disagree that they are but huge pussys, but at least Semin's ***** squirts and I can enjoy it more! :blink:

Hudler is just a useless dried up ***** that not only doesn't hit or battle for the puck, but cannot score for crap. So they are both pussys, but Semin at least scores...and unlike Hudler, if you put Semin on Datsyuk's line, he will flourish...