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#2236700 Vintage Red Wings Brawl

Posted by LeftWinger on 17 December 2011 - 02:16 PM

Correct me if i am wrong but this took place on 3/27/1997

You have been corrected. March 26th, 1997. My BDay is March 12th, and my buddy just happened to pick up some tickets to this game and took me there for my bday. We were losing at the time of the brawl and I remember us looking at each other and saying we don't even care if we win at this point, it was absolutely THE best game I have ever been too...

...still have the stub.

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#2236563 How Are The (former) UFA's That We All Wanted Doing?

Posted by LeftWinger on 16 December 2011 - 05:15 PM

Ok, we talked about these guys all summer long, none of which were signed by the Wings. Lets see how they are doing thus far and if we are missing out at all...

1. Jusi Jokinen : 4G 15A 19pts.

2. James Wisniewski : 1G 15A 16pts.

3. Kevin Bieska : 3G 11A 14pts.

4. Christian Ehrhoff : 2G 12A 14pts.

5. Jaromir Jagr : 10G 16A 26pts.

6. Brooks Laich : 7G 12A 19pts.

7. Steve Montador : 4G 5A 9pts.

8. Joni Pitkanen : 3G 9A 12pts.

9. Tomas Kaberle : 0G 13A 13pts. (between 2 teams. He does have 4A in 3 games with MTL)

10.Ed Jovanovski : 2G 3A 5pts.

11.Alex Tanguay : 5G 15A 20pts.

and we got:

Ian White : 4G 11A 15pts.

...of course Commie hasn't played enough to even gauge him, Chris Conner either, although he has brought a lot of spunk to this team. Considering the salaries that the defenders we all talked about received, I think we made the right choice with White. I guess the only one I still kinda wish we took a gamble on was Jagr. 26 points would be third on our team right now and who knows what that total would be playing with the best player in the league as his center, Pavel Datsyuk. Hudler is doing just as good as Jokinen and costs a bit less, so it seems that worked out too!

I still hope somehow Holland can get that sniper, but I am not gonna name any names, because I at one time wanted each one of these guys and well, this show's why I am a fan and not a GM! :lol:

also, I didn't put the +/- of these guys, but I will note that alot of them are in the -. As noted last night, Ian White is leading the west at +18 and is having a career year.

#2236448 Like A BOSS

Posted by LeftWinger on 16 December 2011 - 07:40 AM

If that were Cindy, he would've flopped all over the place both times. I cannot believe there is any thought that Cindy is half the complete player Datsyuk is...and that is NOT said through rose glasses.

#2236446 12/15 GDT : Red Wings 3 at Predators 4

Posted by LeftWinger on 16 December 2011 - 07:35 AM

Some of you guys are overreacting here big time. The Wings played a perfect road game for the most part. Yah, there were some mistakes made by Howard, but he has played lights out all season so he is entitled to a bad game every now and then. The thing that stuck out to me is that there were times tonight where Kronners and Stu looked lost in our end. They just kind of scramble around the zone when they play together for some reason, so look for Babs to split them up.

- Lidstrom and White were fantastic tonight. Weber had a good night, but I think Nick's all around play showed why he is still the best defenseman in the game
- Pavel had another great game. Sure he missed the open net, but that happens and he has been our best player for the last long while and is slowly getting close to 1st place in points in the league. That entire first line has been outstanding. Highlight of my night was Pavs knocking Weber down... I laughed so hard
- Zetterberg is really coming to form with shooting the puck and controlling play... it is really nice to see
- Ericsson has got to go. I am so tired of his lame play. He simply has no potential imo. If we can somehow create a package deal for Semin that invovles Ericsson going the other way, please pull the trigger Kenny.

Bottom line is that we saw many good things from the Wings tonight, and I am not worried one bit about this team

LOL! We both got negged twice for stating the obvious. Either someone doesn't think Jimmy made a few mistakes (hey, he is human, it's not like we said he sucks) or we have an Ericsson slappy who is appalled by anyone saying something bad about the worst defender on the team. Anyhow your analysis is just as accurate as mine was as was a few others tonight. Great game played overall, Howard showed he was human today, so what, it's not like he is slumping, it's one game. And Ericsson just proved again that he is not worth his NTC overpayment contract...anyhow, I gave ya a +1 because nobody who gives out negg's is man/or woman enough to say why and debate why. Spineless, slappies...

#2236402 12/15 GDT : Red Wings 3 at Predators 4

Posted by LeftWinger on 15 December 2011 - 11:18 PM

Ericsson has got to go...

...great game by the good guys, just couldn't hold on. I knew that if they hung on to only one goal down near the end they would get a power play and tie it. And they did. And then momentum took over. Jimmy had a bad night, he is entitled to one. First goal not much he could've done, but the second goal was a bad rebound to give up, the penalty he committed was obvious (Wings gotta improve that penalty kill, that is the only place they are lacking (besides Ericsson)) and then the clear up the glass. So, basically, besides the first goal, the three were his fault. Oh well, his loss, his mistakes, he is entitled. Too bad it was to a Central foe and we basically lost 4 points.

I thought by the way they dominated that this was gonna be a slam dunk win, I guess they thought that as well and played lackadaisical the last few minutes. I agree with the above poster, we sure do need that sniper. Hudler has been fine (:puke: , excuse me) but he is only on the 2nd line by default. We need that pure goal scorer up there. But that is not the reason they lost the game. Too bad, it was a fun game to watch for a Wings fan....for about 55 mins.

OK, so the Wings "great play" somehow allowed 4 unanswered goals. But even worse, it appears that the Detroit News has "improved" their website to the extent that they've screwed up the Red Wings forum. Anybody know what those dickheads (the News) have been up to??

you get what you pay for....bust some more union's Detroit, go ahead, see where your city and services go...down the toilet.

#2236116 12/15 GDT : Red Wings 3 at Predators 4

Posted by LeftWinger on 15 December 2011 - 12:38 PM

Conner out, eh? Well there goes the Chemistry! Babcock will surely f%ck up the line combos now...especially if the "beaten up" player sits too....Damn injury bugs. Why can't Ericsson get a little bug to put him out for a few?

#2236006 Crosby has "concussion symptoms"

Posted by LeftWinger on 14 December 2011 - 11:58 PM

While I would hate for him to have a s***ty life, I am perfectly fine with his douchness out of this league. The NHL was just fine without him before, and it will be just dandy without him now. Honestly, like someone said, karma is a *****. But hey, he made an impression and will continue to try to recover, but now with this latest setback, it'll only get harder and harder to play, until at one point, he will just have to call it a day, for his health. Just as Eric Lindros was supposed to come in and re-write the record books, so goes another "Next One." Maybe if the NHL would stop putting these labels on the guys, they won't get the delusions of grandeur that they are untouchable and are the NHL's golden boys and when they play, they don't play like they won't get hit hard... I may be in the minority, but I absolutely hate when the NHL and the Media tells me who is gonna be the best player ever. Cindy wouldn't have made it this long playing against Scott Stevens or ANYONE pre-1990. There is no player in this era who will ever be known as the best player ever in the NHL. Not as long as you have had Howe, Orr, Gretzky and Messier in this league. That is just to name a few...

#2236002 The 50 Most Popular Teams in Sports

Posted by LeftWinger on 14 December 2011 - 11:40 PM

:yowza: at Le Canadien de Montreal!

WTF does Snoop Dogg have to do with the USC Trojans? What did he carjack someone in the parking lot before he made his first record? He was a murderer you do know before he rapped about gin and juice.

And no offense to our fans of Football (Not American Football) but this leads me to believe that this was a world wide poll? Because no way those two soccer teams make the top ten in a North American poll. So that actually gives the Wings the 7th spot and the Yankmes #1.

#2235999 The 50 Most Popular Teams in Sports

Posted by LeftWinger on 14 December 2011 - 11:30 PM

And don't forget Michigan at #7, little brother!

Ya, there are a ton of Wal-Mart's in this nation, no wonder U of M is so popular. Wal-Mart Wolverines, gotta love em! When is the last time you beat State? Seems like Little Brother ain't so little anymore. Big Brother just sells more hats.

Our bandwagon outweighs Toronto and Montreal, particularly because those two haven't been as relevant for the past 10 20 years as we have.


#2235996 Mike Commodore

Posted by LeftWinger on 14 December 2011 - 11:16 PM

I don't think the question is Kindl or Commodore, it's Ericsson or Commodore. Kindl has been superb, but Ericsson is just stinking the ice up, Commie should be in and Ericsson should be out or dealt (damn those NTC's!)

Problem is, while losing 3 out of 5 didn't get Commodore in a little bit ago, that means he will probably never get in unless there is an injury. I seriously think that Babcock has a personal issue with him still and that is why he is always a healthy scratch. There is no reason why he is not being rotated with Ericsson. If Commie comes in and outperforms Ericsson, then that is great! If he stinks, then so be it. Right now, Ericsson is a huge waste of $3.25M. I think if Commie is given a nice 10 game stretch to prove himself, then we can decide if he is worthy of the top 6. Right now, not even Ericsson is top 6 worthy. What could it hurt?

I've been really impressed with Kindl's play so far this year, and I think he keeps getting better as the season progresses. The heads up play he made on the Helm goal a few weeks back really shows what the kid can do, and I think we'll see more of that as his confidence grows. That said, I do feel bad for Commie. He's a good team guy who really wants to play hockey, and I hate to see him sitting out after the way he was approached by Holland in the offseason. But then again, who knew Kindl and Ericsson would be so solid coming into this year?


#2235923 Can Conner reasonably be sent down?

Posted by LeftWinger on 14 December 2011 - 02:16 PM

Conner, Helm & Cleary have had a chemistry unseen, dare I say, since Draper, Maltby, McCarty. At least as bottom 6 lines go. Of course they lack the fighting skills of.McCarty but the checking and quickness is uncanny. When Eaves and Mursak get back, trade Emmerton (if possible) and put Eaves with Abby while rotating Miller with Holmstrom and Mursak. Right now the top three lines are excelling and there is no need to change them, even when all are healed. The trade deadline is gonna be tricky this year, maybe Emmerton can be a package deal for someone....

#2234797 12/10 GDT : Jets 1 at Red Wings 7

Posted by LeftWinger on 10 December 2011 - 09:03 PM

I just want to say that I am so gald to see Babs took my advice a left Cleary with Helm & Conner...:lol:

Honestly Cleary looks so much more comfortable on the third line, he is like a whole different player. Conner is sure making a name for himself here, BIG decisions to come when Mursak gets healthy....

#2234026 Kronwall and Stuart may be hitting a lot less now

Posted by LeftWinger on 07 December 2011 - 10:29 PM

Kronwall is on the decline. He used to hit way more than he does now. Sure he still has a doozy once in awhile, but that year he hit Havlat, he was a killer (yes obvious reference to the other thread :lol:) out there. It seems his body just cannot take it anymore or he is starting to believe the hype that he is Nick Jr. and feels he is better suited in that role. Especially now, after his contract has been signed. I just think he will never be the number one defenseman. I may have at one time, but given his play recently, I don't think so anymore. He is here because of the way he played, he needs to continue that, if he can, but like I said, he peaked already and is on his decline.

I don't know what the use in discussing this is; they haven't been hitting much lately anyway. In yesterday's game, it seemed like every Wing who tried to throw a hit ended up missing...

For the most part, they avoid the hit, so the rare time that they try, it doesn't work out too good.

#2233892 Jonathan Ericsson Watch Thread

Posted by LeftWinger on 07 December 2011 - 11:54 AM

He is very expendable right now...damn that NTC he has...

#2233334 Miller Ran again

Posted by LeftWinger on 06 December 2011 - 07:31 PM

Rinne wasn't playing. Lindback was.

That explains it! :lol: Ya, I tried to read the number on his sweater but that camera panned away too fast, wasn't sure whether it was Rinne or Lindback...the point remains the same, he should've been in the scrum instead of changing his pad.