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#2619215 Nyquist Files For Arbitration

Posted by LeftWinger on 06 July 2015 - 12:49 PM

You have to ask yourself, what would Dats, Z or Kronner get on the open market? Exactly! Either Nyquist wants to stay in Detroit and be a part of this or he wants top market value money around the NHL.  None of these 25-30 goals scorers are "worth" $5M+, yet because of the cap floor and desperate teams to "win" signing sweepstakes, these non superstar players are garnering contracts that are unearned.


Nyquist is not worth $5M-$6M especially not on this team.  I am sick of players having a couple good years and then getting "paid" and then falling into obscurity. This is the problem with not having to "prove" that you are constant enough to earn that kind of money. IMO, Nyquist should get a two year deal between $3M-$3.5M to prove he is a consistent 30 goal scorer and even prove he can be in that elite status like Dats and Z, then after 2 years, give him Z and D money (or more.)


I'd hate to lose him, but with the contracts due up next season, and even "better" prospects set to come up within the next few seasons, $6M right now would seriously handcuff this team...seriously. Lets say Nyquist gets awarded $5.5M and goes on to score 30 goals for the next 2 seasons, fine, but also Tatar scores 30 the next two seasons again, then what? Obviously Tatar will garner $6M+ right? He outscored Nyquist already last season, there is no reason to believe that he won't also continue to play just as well.  What if when Pulk re-signs a small contract this year for 2 years and he scores 25-30 also? $6M?


I understand Nyquist is good, and he should be one of the next leaders of this team after Pav and Z, BUT, lets come together on a nice bridge deal that gives you a HUGE raise from $1.05M last season to $3.5M for the next two years.  Prove to the team that you are consistent enough to get superstar money. Plus help the team out by taking less to be part of it, don't be "that" player who milks the market and then never performs up to the contract expectation, like a ton of players do in this league.  Besides, with the likes of Quincey being gone soon, Franzen going the way of Pronger, most likely Howard being traded before his contract expires, there will more money available within 2 years and the team won't be handcuffed or forced to trade or waive players that they really want to keep.


re: Jensen and Callahan, they both have to get signed, sure the cap hit will be minimal, probably less that $1.75M combined, but Callahan is out of waiver exemptions and WILL count against the cap until he clears waivers. It's very little, but it all adds up.


I know the market calls for it, and if you compare other players to Nyquist, $5M-$6M is market value, I just hope that Nyquist would prefer to take a little less for a couple of seasons to allow this team to be the best it can be.  Nyquist is good, but good enough on his own to lose the likes of Tatar, Pulkkinen or the next 50 point scorer just so we can pay him $6M right now. But, when it comes to this type of situation, logic never wins. He may very well get $6M in SA, or even $4.5M from Holland, but guarantee if he does, you can kiss a couple of our prized prospects goodbye when they are RFA's because of cap issues.  Then we will be stuck with another "choice" to make...and Tatar is better than Nyquist, so you'd know my choice.

#2619151 Retire Sergei Fedorovís Jersey Immediately

Posted by LeftWinger on 05 July 2015 - 08:43 PM

I don't think Feds was banging his teammates wives either as Lindros was...hell he had Anna. Lindros burn way more bridges in Philly than Feds ever could here.

#2619149 Nyquist Files For Arbitration

Posted by LeftWinger on 05 July 2015 - 08:38 PM

here is the problem, Saad is not worth $6M, even hockey insiders were taken aback at that contract. If Nyquist gets awarded anything over $3M, especially north of $5M, walk away. If Nyquist gets $6M, then so will Tatar next contract, then what happens when Pulkkamania runs wild and he scores 30? Its outrageous to think that he has earned $4M, let alone $6M...

#2618614 Wings sign Brad Richards 1 yr, $3 million

Posted by LeftWinger on 01 July 2015 - 11:20 PM

#97 is cool, anything but #90.  I am pretty sure they won't let him wear #91, he may not even want to do so. But remember, #11 is also opening up...#17 is open, #22, #23 (I am sure Lashoff won't be back) There's always #24, #25, #28, #32, #33....along with a plethora of higher numbers...


SAY NO TO 90!!!

#2618605 Free agents this off season

Posted by LeftWinger on 01 July 2015 - 10:58 PM

Well now that R. Smith has been traded to FLA, maybe we can trade Brendan+ to FLA for a draft pick.  I am sure the bros would love to play together!


Boy, Boston is having a fire sale this summer...sheesh!

#2618591 Wings sign Brad Richards 1 yr, $3 million

Posted by LeftWinger on 01 July 2015 - 10:02 PM

I recovered.  I was personally getting angry that a lot of teams were getting better and it seemed we were just going to go with the kids.  I was really angry that Pit got better, but with our two signings, I do believe we got significantly better than we were last season. ESPECIALLY if the roster is filled out by the kids and not Franzen and Cleary. Still a log jam all over, but could be very good for us! The streak will live for sure and maybe even more!


We'll also have Mrazek here all season stealing Jimmy's job and Jimmy (hopefully) staying focused because he knows if he slips, his job is gone.  Win win for us!


Better forwards, better D, better goalie situation....(plus a Jack Adams finalist behind the bench! (Hey, I see it happening!))

#2618568 Red Wings sign D Mike Green (3-years, $18-million)

Posted by LeftWinger on 01 July 2015 - 08:42 PM

So with Green here, there is definitely a move coming or a waiver or two.









Sure, I guess the kids can go to GR, but Marchenko already said he doesn't want to spend aother whole year in the A. I honestly think a great idea would to be move K and Q and give a spot to two of the kids. You may be able to get a pick for each of them.






#2618344 Wings sign Brad Richards 1 yr, $3 million

Posted by LeftWinger on 01 July 2015 - 04:21 PM

just no to #90 please. Just take a new number, I dunno, #29 or #33 or #51, doesn't matter, just no #90.

#2618077 Free agents this off season

Posted by LeftWinger on 01 July 2015 - 02:07 PM

Detroit needs to go ahead and outbid for Green and Franson. Deal with the logjam come October. Waive Q and K, trade Smith, whatever. I amf****** sick of always watching these teams getting better, trying things, making ballsy moves and Holland standing pat. I get it, kids, I know, but damn it, you can have the kids next season when you once again have some open spots. You are not going to be able to keep all 4 anyhow. Not with E and Kronner signed forever. You are keeping Danny D for sure. Sign Green and Franson to that group and then you are instantly better. Hell, trade Jensen and Sproul also when the time comes. I love the lore of the streak, but Dats and Z aren't getting any younger, they don't have time to wait for these kids to become regulars. By time any if these 4 kids become regular players, Dats will be retired and Z will have half a back left. Just do it.

#2617612 Weiss bought out (confirmed)

Posted by LeftWinger on 30 June 2015 - 05:03 PM

So long Weiss, sorry our former coach didn't use you correctly and good luck wherever you play!


Gus can ask or whatever he wants, he doesn't deserve more than Tatar. If Gus gets anything over $3M, it will be a waste. Next season Helm, MIller and Andersson can all leave, save the money to give Sheahan, Dekeyser and Mrazek...you also have 3 of the 4 D kids that will be RFA's. If Gus doesn't understand this, then he can be traded, I am not that impressed with him enough to lose other players over him wanting $4M+.

#2617135 Retire Sergei Fedorovís Jersey Immediately

Posted by LeftWinger on 28 June 2015 - 03:01 PM

when Feds gets his HHOF call Monday, the choice will be even more clear! Its time, make it so.

#2616909 2015 Draft

Posted by LeftWinger on 27 June 2015 - 10:41 AM

he played in green bay already, he's going back overseas this season...lol at Holland. He is s***ting the bed thus far this draft.

#2615838 Retire Sergei Fedorovís Jersey Immediately

Posted by LeftWinger on 23 June 2015 - 10:03 PM



Lift this #91 to the rafters...it's time.

#2614388 Report: Cleary wants to return for 1 more season

Posted by LeftWinger on 14 June 2015 - 08:26 PM


I know, but Dan Cleary isn't stopping the Red Wings from contending. Not having a defense for years is more of a reason to get worked up, IMO. I don't care if people are pissed about Cleary and I definitely get that argument, but there are bigger fish to fry. 


Ya, but which "prospect" are you willing to give up (for free) for Cleary to have that #14 spot?  Jurco? Pulkkinen? Ferraro? Callahan? Who else?  Point isn't we'd rather worry about upgrading the D rather than being upset if Cleary comes back, point is, if Holland cannot make a deal and Franzen makes a comeback to play, you are waiver 2 players to keep Cleary in that #14 spot.  Ferraro will not clear waivers again...Jurco, Pulkkinen will never clear waivers, even once.  Callahan is a favorite of Blashill's, so he will fight to keep him off waivers... siging Cleary will destroy some of the future of this team...lose Ferraro and Callahan, but hey, Cleary is only the #14 guy, so no biggie...

#2614382 Wings open to trading Mantha and/or their 1st Round Pick

Posted by LeftWinger on 14 June 2015 - 07:21 PM

wonder what happened to Mantha to make him "touchable" now...last two trade deadlines he was "untouchable."


If Holland is trading Mantha our 1st, Smith and Weiss, it damn well better be for a Ryan Suter type defenseman, NOT a Phanuef-type defenseman.


I am assuming that Mantha is not horrible, but of all our top end prospects, someone has to go to get what we need, and he is the one? Maybe? I mean with AA, Bertuzzi, Larkin and the chance of us landing Hyman, someone has to be the odd man out, but damn, I sure was looking forward to Larkin and Mantha being the next dynamic duo...


Again, like I said, if he's dealing Mantha and our 1st along with Smith and Weiss, it better be a blockbuster coming back....if it's only Phanuef (or similar) and tie that in with the possible re-signing of you know who, I would say our off season would be taking a bad turn...