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#2683454 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by LeftWinger on 18 July 2016 - 10:37 PM

It doesn't matter who plays the best in pre-season. Last pre-season Nick Jensen was the best dman during every game he played. Where'd that get him? Yep, and it'll get him waived this year...


#2683393 For the Kenny apologists, what Holland move would change your stance o

Posted by LeftWinger on 18 July 2016 - 08:13 AM

Now, see, I would protect Z, just becuase I can protect 7 fwds.  Disregarding my dislike of Helm, I would think he may be safe with that long of deal, plus nearly $4M for a bottom 6'er.  I absolutely would be livid if we lost Sheahan to expansion.

 

On, D, with the current D we have, I chose DD, Marchy and XO.  I still don't think someone would chose a broken down Kronwall, especially with younger, more prospective D-men available.  If I'm looking at Detroit and I see Kronwall, Ericsson, Green, Sproul, Jensen available, I'm taking Sproul.  Not unless they would look for more leadership qyualities, but still, I'd much rather take a young player with tons of potential over a half crippled Kronwall.

 

I chose XO because he has the most NHL experience of the 3 kids in GR.

 

I really agree that of the players being left exposed, Jurco, Pulkkinen or Sproul may be the ones most apt to be picked.

 

I think we're stuck with Howard and he will have to be bought out next summer, Vegas will not pick him with the prospective talent that may be available at G.

 

Of course all this will change if Holland gets D.  Lets say he trades Nyquist or Tatar for a D-man, then of course that D man will be protected and XO is not, and then we can put Helm on the protected list as the 7th fwd. I'd love for Jurco to bust out this season and earn a protection, but with the plethora of fwds, he might see 25 games.




#2683381 For the Kenny apologists, what Holland move would change your stance o

Posted by LeftWinger on 17 July 2016 - 10:45 PM

Smith is a ufa, no need to waste a protect on him. He won't get claimed being that he would possibly leave your team 10 days later. Don't waste it on a pending ufa. That would be stupid. I agree on Sheahan and Kronwall though. Protect Riley instead. And protect marchenko, Nobody is going to pick a broken down Kronwall and if so, then good.


#2683380 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by LeftWinger on 17 July 2016 - 10:41 PM

Helm will botch that line up. No hands, fumbles the puck to much.


#2683374 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by LeftWinger on 17 July 2016 - 08:49 PM

AA won't even be up unless it's an injury recall. Too many Helms...

Now, a line of Mantha - AA - Vanek would be fun to watch!


#2683355 For the Kenny apologists, what Holland move would change your stance o

Posted by LeftWinger on 17 July 2016 - 04:22 PM

The only way Helm gets protected over Sheahan is if he has a NMC. if not, and Helm gets protected over Sheahan? Something is more than wrong...but Helm shouldn't have been re-signed anyhow.

Obvs no one knows for sure, but I think the rules state only 1 goalie can be protected. Consensus seems to be that with the other goalies on offer, and with the other pieces that we'll have to expose, Howard isn't the option to go for. But we don't know how the Vegas team will value him.
 
Just read another breakdown which suggests Howard also still has a NMC. Is that right?
 
EDIT: Modified NMC with a 10-team 'no-trade' list


Has NTC not a NMC. He doesn't have to be protected.


#2683333 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by LeftWinger on 17 July 2016 - 08:18 AM

problem is, as of right now, with LTIR Holland has a complete roster with 3 fwds that can start in GR with no danger of being claimed AND 2 of 3 D Kids that MUST make the team or be wiaved.  So Holland can not do a thing the rest of the summer and start with only a couple of decisions to make.

 

He can either save 2 of the D kids and wiave Frk, or only save 1 and save Frk.

 

(not line combos)

 

Zetterberg - Larkin - Abby

Nyquist - Nielsen - Vanek

Tatar - Helm - Sheahan

Miller - Glenny - Ott

Jurco/Frk

 

DD - Green

Kronwall - Smith

E - Marchy

1 of XO/Sproul/Jensen

 

or remove Frk and add another D kid.

 

Notice no AA, Mantha or Nosek. (they all have waiver eligibilty)

 

Not sure what will happen when Pulk comes back, one of the extra D kids or Frk will have to be waived.

 

Of course barring ANY trade this is the current roster with LTIR. IMO, if Holland gets Fowler, et al. He will need to trade 2-3 fwds, 1 of our NHL D and a prospect D total.  (not all for Fowler, but in order to become compliant with a healthy roster.) But noone wants E, Smith is pretty good, so I could also see him trading a fwd and a D kid only.  Lets say Nyquist(or Tatar) and XO for Fowler.  Now who becomes #7, Smith or E?  I just think Holland will either overload his D or just stay pat and do nothing. Either way, we risk Frk and/or 2 of the D kids to waivers...


BTW, is Jamie Benn really worth $9.5M per season?




#2683280 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by LeftWinger on 15 July 2016 - 05:10 PM

Glendening isn't keeping kids in GR. The kids ready to come up are top 9. Helm is keeping kids in GR. They are going to be up here to play 4th line minutes so they may as well be in GR. That's why Helm was a waste of a roster spot.


#2683165 Glendening signs 4-year, $1.8m AAV extension

Posted by LeftWinger on 14 July 2016 - 11:47 AM

At least he's 4th liner who knows where he is going to play. He's not whining about top 6 minutes when he knows he doesn't belong there.


#2683107 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by LeftWinger on 13 July 2016 - 09:43 PM

Mantha, Nosek and AA have exemptions left. Frk does not. The 3 can start the season in GR without danger. Frk has no exemptions. Unless Frk s***s the bed in pre-season then it's absolutely possible that he'll be here with one of the other guys with exemptions.

I'd prefer Mantha, AA and Frk be here, but this is Holland and he has to re-sign Helm and Miller. Plus refuses to dump Nyquist for a top defender. At least so far he has refused to...


#2683002 Should any of #91, #13, #40, #30 be retired? Poll/Discussion

Posted by LeftWinger on 12 July 2016 - 04:25 PM

It's all going to be fine, I am the MegaMillions winner and am in negotiations to buy controlling interest in The Detroit Red Wings Hockey Club. When the transfer is complete, things will start happening! Trust me, no kicking tires!


#2682999 For the Kenny apologists, what Holland move would change your stance o

Posted by LeftWinger on 12 July 2016 - 04:19 PM

yes. I found a thread in HFBoards that's filled with the best gifs and pics. Most of them are Flashy G's
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I found my avatar pic there too


Flashy Is An F'ing Genius. I love how Babcock takes a little peek over at you real quick after he turns aroubd! Masterful! I wished he'd come back!


#2682994 For the Kenny apologists, what Holland move would change your stance o

Posted by LeftWinger on 12 July 2016 - 04:07 PM

Ya you probably weren't around when flashy used to come round here all the time. His game day threads were priceless. He has mad Photoshop skills


That's The Juck.f****** Pott Jeep Jamboree right there!


#2682855 Should any of #91, #13, #40, #30 be retired? Poll/Discussion

Posted by LeftWinger on 10 July 2016 - 07:24 PM

can't be a generational talent when you never sniffed the top 3 at your own position.
 
Yzerman was sort of like hockey's own Drew Brees in a league with Peyton Manning and Tom Brady

In 1989, Sports Illustrated thought differently, as did the rest of the NHL.

http://www.si.com/va...r-on-the-charts


#2682823 Should any of #91, #13, #40, #30 be retired? Poll/Discussion

Posted by LeftWinger on 10 July 2016 - 01:38 PM

Same to similar numbers as Roy, Hasek, Brodeur and he was never near elite? The three listed above also played on arguably the best all around teams in the 90's. Jersey was a better defensive team than Detroit, Colorado was Colorado, but no, they did all the work and was the only reason their teams were so good...

08 Cup rests on 2 people's shoulders, Z and Ozzie. The team was struggling and Ozzie only came in and won 9 straight wins in playoffs. He won 3 Cups, two as the main goalie. The stats don't lie (right krsmith?) Osgood, while maybe not the best goalie of his generation, was as close to elite as possible without being called elite.