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#2308863 High End Trade Options

Posted by LeftWinger on 22 June 2012 - 05:34 PM

I really don't know why we should consider trading Flip... He's the Pavel/Henrik hybrid.

As far as I remember (I could be wrong) Flip was great on Dats line (Dat's is the man)

*Parise* - Dats - Flip
Franzen - Zetterberg - Nyquist
Cleary - Helm - Bert (Brunner)
*Prust/Moen* - Abdelkader - Eaves/Miller


Yes, I agree, I am definitely trading Franzen first, but if it takes a package a Flip to get Ryan...I am in, sorry. I just cannot pass on Bobby Ryan...The Ducks like Flip too, so that would be an attractive piece to dangle in front of them...


#2308847 Trade Ian White?

Posted by LeftWinger on 22 June 2012 - 04:34 PM

...while I agree that White will not be back next season, I keep him this season. Get Schultz anyhow and let Quincey walk. Next year when there is an open spot on the defense, Mr. Weber just may come a-calling....Especially after how Suter talks up Detroit as the best place to play in the world... That would make 2013-2014 defense roster look like this:

Kronwall - Ericsson
Weber - Suter
Smith - Schultz
DeKeyser

:yowza: now that would rock! <SMACK!> Ok, Ok, I am awake now....sheesh!


#2308839 Top Swiss-leaguer Brunner to sign with Wings, Babcock has big plans

Posted by LeftWinger on 22 June 2012 - 04:16 PM

Ok...here is my $70M roster including Brunner (dunno what his salary will be, so I just put $1M to be safe) and my above proposed week of ecstasy with acquiring Ryan (Schultz) along with scoring Suter/Parise....

I traded away Franzen, Mursak, Emmerton & Kindl...not all for Ryan, but I got rid of these guys none-the-less... Of course I am still adamant about siging DeKeyser and Welsh, So until it DOESN'T happen then I will continue to post it! :lol: I now have put Montoya as Howard's back-up...


FORWARDS
Zach Parise ($8.000m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m)
Gustav Nyquist ($0.875m) / Valtteri Filppula ($3.000m) / Bobby Ryan ($5.100m)
Damien Brunner ($1.000m) / Darren Helm ($2.125m) / Todd Bertuzzi ($2.075m)
Danny Cleary ($2.800m) / Justin Abdelkader ($1.250m) / Patrick Eaves ($1.200m)
Drew Miller ($0.838m) / Jeremy Welsh ($1.100m) /

DEFENSEMEN
Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Ryan Suter ($8.000m)
Ian White ($2.875m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($3.250m)
Brendan Smith ($0.875m) / Justin Schultz ($1.100m)
Danny DeKeyser ($0.825m) /

GOALTENDERS
Jimmy Howard ($2.250m)
Al Montoya ($1.000m)
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SALARY CAP: $70,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $67,070,833; BONUSES: $37,500
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $3,229,167


#2308228 Bobby Ryan

Posted by LeftWinger on 20 June 2012 - 09:47 AM

You mean Franzen, right?

Oh, I would love to ditch..err...I mean trade Franzen, but I don't think Anaheim would take him and that long ass contract. I mention Filppula because Selanne is coming back and has said how much he likes playing with Flip (International play) and that he has great chemistry with him...so naturally if we were going to try to pry Ryan out of there, they would definitely want Filppula to start with...

I agree with you guys about sign what you can first, then make trades if you need to, but unfortunately this is the time (the draft) when the trades are made. Trades for rights and players. If Holland has any interest in Bobby Ryan, he will need to trade for him on draft day...and if Anaheim has any interest in Filppula then they have already put it in Holland's ear... We already have the next Filppula in Pulkkinen perhaps better and as good as Filppula has become, this team is better with Ryan. Of course there is no way of knowing what it would take to get him here, I am just guessing....

to ANA: V. Filppula/ L. Ferraro / 4th Round

to DET: B. Ryan / J. Schultz (rights)



#2308131 If we fail to reload with top UFAs we should?

Posted by LeftWinger on 19 June 2012 - 07:40 PM

MSU's season was over when Abby signed.

Oh....well, I still hope they sign him after his senior year...


#2308130 Why isn't the Wild in hot water for their owner's comments?

Posted by LeftWinger on 19 June 2012 - 07:38 PM

Didn't they sellout for like 10 straight years?

"THEY" or "WE" you can come out of the closet now...


#2308129 Zach Parise

Posted by LeftWinger on 19 June 2012 - 07:28 PM

The same was said about the LA Kings last summer by the so called "experts". Id say Minnesota is in a better spot to win for years to come than Detroit. And it's not even close.


:hysterical:

BTW poser...do not EVER refer to the Red Wings as WE again...Us REAL Red Wings fans would never go to another teams forum and pretend to be a fan of that team. We are Wings fans and proud, if you are not proud enough to come here as a Wild fan, then I question what kind of Wild fan you really are...

I bet Detroit "WE" win another Cup before "you" even get to the finals. And in ten years, the Wings "WE" will have at least 2 before "you" get there...and now that is something "not even close." Even if for some reason Detroit "WE" don't end up winning any in the next ten years, I guarantee neither will "you." Let alone "you" won't even make the playoffs for 10 straight years...


EDIT: and just in case you have amnesia: http://www.letsgowin...56#entry2306656


#2308124 2012 General Offseason Signing Thread

Posted by LeftWinger on 19 June 2012 - 07:04 PM

I know July 1st isn't here yet, but I am just going to prepare myself for Holland not doing anything...That way I won't blow a gasket...

Please Holland.....Schultz/Suter/Parise/Dekeyser/Welsh....No Hudler, No Quincey... AT LEAST if you sign Quincey, let it be $3.5M or less....

I am hopeful.....just not getting too excited...


#2308122 Red Wings Prepared to Offer Hudler Contract

Posted by LeftWinger on 19 June 2012 - 06:49 PM

God, please do not offer Hudler a contract....PLEASE!


#2308121 Darren Helm signs 4 year extension

Posted by LeftWinger on 19 June 2012 - 06:47 PM

Yeah, and I wish every player on the team signed for less than 4 million.

A 2 million dollar cap hit for a guy who will be entering his prime as an amazing bottom sixer is a good deal. Hell, you should be calling it as steal considering he makes half as much as Johan Franzen. :lol:

Ya, its a good deal that he will definitely out perform, I was just hoping for a bit more modest raise, OR sign the big names first, then hand out the bonuses... I am all for having Helm here for the next 4 years...I, on the other hand, am not all for paying Val $5M+ when he is due up next year...and that is what this signing is going to directly lead to. Especially if Hudler gets $5M...and if Holland gives it to Hudler then I will have a fit...

Good stuff.The kids are locked,now let's be active on the free agency :thumbup:

What kids? Just Helm, Abby is still unsigned and I hope Quincey isn't...ever.


#2308114 Darren Helm signs 4 year extension

Posted by LeftWinger on 19 June 2012 - 06:18 PM

Oh poo on Harding...oh well $1.9M was more than I would have given him anyway. Kenny says he wants a backup without health issues, wonder who he is going to go after?

Again, for you weirdo's out there, I am not calling Holland out or saying Helm isn't worth the money, just wish they could have kept it a little lower, to have more to offer the big names...thats all...I am glad he is here for the next 4 years...


#2308112 Darren Helm signs 4 year extension

Posted by LeftWinger on 19 June 2012 - 06:13 PM

leftwinger will not like the news about quincey :blush:

What is the news on Quincey?


I cannot believe I got -7 on that first post...I didn't say anything negative except I wish the Cap hit was less...sheesh fickle fans!


#2308045 Darren Helm signs 4 year extension

Posted by LeftWinger on 19 June 2012 - 12:09 PM

i would imagine you will get a bunch of minuses, but i actually do agree with your premise. i had hoped to see him stay at least under 2 mil. but when i do think about it, i think its a fair price for what he brings. i think he was a steal for what he made last year and this contract just brings him up to snuff. the reason i find it unfortunate though is that to win a cup you really need to have several value contracts. right now i just see helm as a neutral contract. though i am hoping in the last 2 years he becomes a steal again.

I hope I don't get a lot of negs. I was not calling it a bad signing, or that Helm is a bum and not worth it or that Holland should be fired. I was just hoping for less of a cap hit in order to make sure we have the cash to bid high of the players we need to change this team. I am glad Helm is going to be part of that and hope that he signs again in 4 years to a lifetime contract...I just hope that this trend doesn't continue with the overpayment (around the league) because like I said, it's going to ruin the NHL when the Colton Orr's are making $4M soon...

That being said, we still have $24M left to spend of Abby, Parise, Suter, Harding & Schultz & Dekeyser & Welsh...so far I haven't lost out on anyone from my wish list! (yet!)


#2308033 Darren Helm signs 4 year extension

Posted by LeftWinger on 19 June 2012 - 11:27 AM

Honestly, I was hoping for a more of a $1.5M Cap hit, I know he is a solid player and is good at what he does, but I just don't think he earned a raise over twice what he was payed last season...I guess we will see in 4 years if he is outplaying this $2.1M. It's not that he isn't worth it, it's just needed cap space to make this team better... If Holland overpays Quincey, I will have an ulcer... I hope he keeps Abby at a modest pay...I am hoping for $1.1, but after this, I am seeing $1.8M... sorry guys, not being negative, it's just needed cap space, or maybe sign the big UFA's first and then pay your guys a bit of a inflated contract, thats all I am saying...of course after re-signing Bertuzzi at too much money, I should have seen this coming...


NO QUINCEY!!! NO HUDLER!!! Please God! Please Holland! PLEASE!!!!


EDIT: Also, do you now realize what it's going to take to re-sign Filppula? He will get at least $5M...that is the problem here, (and not just Holland) keep overpaying and the NHL will go belly up... I honestly see a point where the guys making $500,000 today will be at $2M within a couple of years...Hey Minny, go ahead a give Parise the world, ruin the NHL (again.)


#2307907 Power Play

Posted by LeftWinger on 18 June 2012 - 08:21 PM

This applies to a guy standing in front of the net as well. It seems like it takes one guy out of the play for us.
Their pk players match up one-on-one, the rest of our guys rip shots from the perimeter, and the shots get blocked before they get anywhere.
We need more movement, more guys cycling down low, to break the opposing teams coverage.

Agreed! With the inevitable retirement of Holmstrom, I think the Wings need to establish more 2 on 1's in front of the net instead of the one guy standing there. Seems most folks have figure that out, especially last season...get it down low, cycle, get that 2 on 1 in front of the net...