Sometimes the Crosby hate here really is amazing. Im not huge on the guy, but is he supposed to have some special robotic knee or something that allows it to go sideways like that? He really is a good actor to be able to make his limbs go like that and it not hurt him, maybe he should be in the circus instead.
Given some of the comments "what a dive", "i'll pay someone $20 to do it again", this would be correct. I've never seen so much jealousy of a player from a fanbase in my life. It's laughable, and embarrassing at the same time.
And I can't really tell what the hell happened there. It was an awkward hit, certainly not a legal one, but Crosby didn't seem injured by it, played more minutes than any other player in that game. Looks like the penalty was justified and that's all that was necessary. Downie, on the other hand, needs to be watched for any other similar antics, as the guy doesn't bring much else to the game besides this stuff.
Yes....They are, and if it were Crosby or Malkin, the NHL would rescind the Game Misconduct so neither would have to be suspended at all...
Key word is "if". They haven't done anything like this. Ovi, as much as I like him as an exciting player, has done this numerous times now.
We have Godwin's Law to bring to the surface when Hitler is part of an argument, but what about Crosby? Think it's about time.
If you throw enough darts you're bound to hit a bulls eye.
This suspension is laughable given that Cooke is given free reign to head-hunt.
And no-- I don't give a s*** that Cooke's hit didn't result in an on-ice penalty. The NHL's given suspensions for non-penalized stuff before.
There was nothing illegal about that hit. It's like the Sean Avery rule. You can't penalize the guy for doing stupid crap when there's no rule. That's how it works in the NHL, that's how it works in every other facet of the world with technicalities. Consistency is how to be fair, and while the NHL has f***ed itself in the ass sideways with stupid rulings (Cup Finals with Malkin is a good example of that), these two are actually decent ones and the NHL was being consistent. Cooke's was dirty, but not against the rules. This isn't a gymnastics sport where people are judged by their quality of checks. Either it was clean or dirty, malicious or situational. That's it. If it isn't a penalty, it isn't a penalty. Cooke, while a dirty SOB and only a slightly-useful player, didn't commit an illegal hit (following through on Savard with a shoulder hit to the side), and that's a pretty simple and understandable rationale. I was wanting to hang his balls on the rafter at first since I like Savard and Cooke is known for being a dirty c***, but logic is supposed to prevail. At very least Cooke now gets to have a rule donned because of it. As the greatest President in US History would say, "mission accomplished". As for Ovie, he has a history of these hits, there was a nice screencap of Ovie's hit, it was right on the numbers, which is all one needs to see. A check from behind (no, not the side), into the boards. It's a dangerous play and now someone is missing at least the entire season because of it. Doesn't matter if it was Stevie Y doing this kind of a hit, that's a justified suspension, and one-to-two games was pretty predictable given Ovie didn't look like he did it on purpose, but it was the usual reckless nature of how he does stuff. It's a high risk maneuver, and he paid for it. But yeah it's a no win situation even bothering much with this topic given people are by in large arguing emotions over reasonableness -- case in point, articles like, from the Worcester, MA Telegram.. "Bruins need to give Cooke frontier justice", whatever the f*** that means.
I have been a Wings fan for as long as I can remember. However I have lived in San Diego my whole life so I rarely get to discuss the team with anyone who follows them like I do. Now don't get me wrong, I feel like Flip is an alright player, but can not understand why is has practically been crowned as the next Hank or Dats. Even though he has only played 38 games this year, his statistics are still nothing special especially considering he is supposed to be a skill/finesse player. His defense is suspect, he needs to play stronger, and his stick handling while exceptional, hardly merits the praise his overall game receives from the loyal wings fans on the site. Please inform me on something I may be missing. I don't get to watch every game but I watch an many as one can being from San Diego.
I've always loved it when people, especially newly registered users, start off with "I've been a Wings fan since 1679!", as if that's supposed to give their argument some sort of instant oatmeal of credibility merely because they state this.
Flip is played pretty often on the PK and Power Play for a specific reason, and that's because he's a decent two way forward, and deserves the positive attention he gets, as well as the pay. This season has been rather unremarkable for him (missed a bunch of games due to injury) and the rest of the team (similar reasons, injuries), but it doesn't merit this sort of overreaction and player bashing. Few sensible people compare him directly with Hank and Dats, as Flip has never had "impressive" stats (if you really do watch games I dunno why you would be stat-centric), but besides his lack of touch in finishing plays in the offensive end (that's one thing he sorely needs to work on), he's not done much wrong, which is greater than average for the team this season.
Miller obviously would have been there over Fleury.
Parise probably would have been given a good shot at the team by Yzerman and co.
That's about all imo
I smell bacon -- no, wait, an insecure Canadian (made sure to check previous posts to confirm this). It's obvious not many US players would make it, as on paper they are relatively inferior to even the Russian team. Some might disagree and that's fine, but the US was never one of the top teams and few people expected them to get to the gold medal game, whereas all the pressure was, once again, on Canada.
This post is very much akin to the recent coinage of "Hockey belongs to Canada". Since when did it not? It's obvious hockey belongs to a country that appreciates it and has it as much engraved in their culture as Canadians do, but there's been some highly prominent insecurity about hockey in it's place in Canada. Are you guys really that afraid somebody else is going to be better or like hockey more? Within this last decade you've won more golds than in the previous handful of decades to that. Celebrate and stop trying to compare peens with a country that doesn't even like hockey as much nor have permitting weather in a huge chunk of it to promote interest.
Posted by Shoreline
on 02 November 2009 - 08:49 PM
It's arguable whether or not it was his elbow or his shoulder, as the frames go by way too fast for me to be able to tell which, but nonetheless, it was 100% assuredly a high hit. I don't know what the hell Fanelli was doing turning his back like that, but regardless of whether his back was turned or he was facing Liambas, that was still not even remotely close to a body check. He was aiming high the whole way.
I don't care if Bettman likes it or not, players are playing NHL games anyways and are under threat of getting injured. Fans would overwhelmingly agree they want to see their country's star players, fans of both the Olympics and NHL hockey. So Bettman can cram it up his ass, quit whining, and make a deal with the IIHF.