It may have been time for to move on, pretty much everybody here gets that. It's all about the delivery though. And your delivery was awful, bascially like a "See ya wouldn't want to be ya" response disrespecting a guy who accomplished so much here and accomplished so much, regardless of whether you like him or not. So you should not be shocked one bit at some of the negative responses you got back.
Not that hard to understand. Think about it for a bit.
Yes, I did 1+ this post as you tell it how it is.... Preach it brotha SWF!
Ah yes, two-way players like Holmstrom, Bertuzzi, and Franzen. The epitome of offense combined with defense.
So quit complaining about people bringing up Datsyuk's '09 playoff run and calling him a ghost. The stats show that he wasn't putting in the effort.
Hudler had trouble scoring for about 30 games, but he was working as hard as anyone from about game 15 on and was creating scoring chances, playing well in the corners and backchecking hard. Yet he gets bagged on about effort and defense based on his nationality, or his play several years ago.
"No Love" for Hudler
I think you are responding to the wrong folks Eva, you need to contact Holland, Babcock, and the rest of the DRW Organization as I said before....
"Wings would not be shopping Hudler if he was what they expecting"
Hope they get him out of here, get someone in here who can put up goals/assists, and want to be here.... At the same time, wherever Jiri lands, he will want to be there and help that team accordingly.
I am a Wings fan and a Hockey fan, but I am also realistic....
Bringing up Pavel in a Hudler thread is like comparing apples and oranges, yes they are both fruit (Big Fat Greek Wedding line), but that is about it...
Pavel is very effective defensively/offensively, and has been consistent...
Hudler, well.... We will not go there as what needed to be said has been written already.
We need 2 way players who want to be here and play hockey, plain n simple... Guys who will give their all every night... Ones who can play defense, not be knocked off the puck, can take face-offs, work the boards, not turn over the puck a lot, and set up goals accordingly.
Hudler is not the worst guy out there, but there are better for the money who will be more productive in certain situations.
Huds was scratched for lack of production. Not for lack of effort.
Usually when a player puts forth effort, there is production... His production only increased when it seemed he was putting forth more effort...
For some reason I think BabCOCK is the type of coach who values effort... As long as he thinks you are conditioning/trying your hardest, he will give you a chance even if you struggle putting up points. Hence why he is one of the best coaches (ie - see the history of Commie and Babs)
In 2008-09 he had 23 goals and 34 assists. Sure, a higher assists to goal ratio last year. But a big difference is that he started the season in a slump with other slumping players, and then when he served in more of a playmaker role, with his peak alongside Datsyuk and Cleary (both scoring more goals than assists during that period). So he spent most of his season as a playmaker.
I'll place a call to Switzerland and get Stacy Roest on the first flight over. Haven't seen many harder working Canadian players, and a guy with his speed and tenacity would match up very well with Helm.
Other teams push him off the puck and Babcock sat Jiri a few times for his lack of effort if I remember correctly.
Dan Cleary works hard for his size, as did Draper and neither are as much as a "pushover" as your boy Hudler.
The goalie we're missing is a BACKUP The forwards are debatable in the first place, but once again, July 3rd and trades still exist, or were those forgotten about? Coaches are Babs decision and unless they're not there come training camp, that's hardly something to get worked up about...
Once again, I re-itterate. Be patient...
I feel like a damn grief counselor, talking people off buildings on this board sometimes around this time of year...
I might need to talk you off your soapbox a little considering I haven't been around much over 7+ weeks and not up to date on the hockey world. I am catching up this weekend and just posted in what I see...
And yes, I realize you are just frustrated with everyone saying "blah blah blah" and that is the time you finally decided to respond to such, but pick a more well deserving candidate next time; aka a broken record.
I am not going to get into a pissing match over FA's, gaps in the roster, and woulda-coulda-shoulda thoughts nor am I going to derail a thread. If ya want to share more, feel free to PM me and I may get around to reading, checking, and responding.
/ clean up as I have to read up on hockey transactions + sweep up all the dried powdered soap from the broken soap box.
Good for the Leafs, I hope this trade really helps them this season and as for the Preds, they are a hardworking team... Fun to watch, but do not enjoy playing against them. May the Lebda transaction help Detroit during games and in the standings in a positive manner.