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#2531336 Wings re-sign Cleary $1.5 mill + $1mill in game bonuses

Posted by Hockeymom1960 on 10 July 2014 - 07:45 PM

Helene St. James ‏@HeleneStJames 1m

#RedWings GM Ken Holland: "My program has been one of loyalty and there's good and bad that goes with that. Way more good, in my opinion."

 

 

so is holland himself admitting that the cleary signing is a bad one?

 

This proves Holland is delusional.




#2531277 Wings re-sign Cleary $1.5 mill + $1mill in game bonuses

Posted by GoWings1905 on 10 July 2014 - 06:08 PM

You people are all way too serous about this. Take a step back from your keyboard and breath.

 

The positive of this is it a 1 year deal we have a ton of cap space and looks like no way of using it.

 

If he performs like he has prior to the last couple of years you will all be in love with this move come season end.

 

He is a veteran player who can be trusted by the coach and knows the system, you are all very well aware of how fragile this team is so veteran leadership and depth at this price is a no brainer even if he does not play a game.

 

As for the GM I would like to see how some of the posters on this site would be able to pull off the NHL 2014 trades that some of you so desperately want. I can't imagine that it's that easy or you'd be a GM in this league by now.

 

Life long wings fan here who is a realistic person.

 

Chill out relax and enjoy the show!!!!

 

There is no positive to this, unless you are Helene St. James. First off, just because you have cap space doesn't mean blowing it on players that aren't going to help the team is prudent. Even for a year, it is completely not necessary to keep Cleary around. The Wings have an abundance of veteran leadership; all of which are still capable of playing hockey. Cleary doesn't add anything to the locker room, that isn't already there in the likes of Zetterberg, Kronwall, Datsyuk, probably Alfredsson too. 

 

Second, Dan Cleary is not reverting to previous form. 35 years old with no knees and other injury history is not an ideal reclamation project. I loved Cleary, but he hasn't been remotely useful in years because his style of play eventually broke him down physically. You don't get that back with age and some time at the gym. The simple fact is the Red Wings have superior talent already on the roster that are now at risk of losing their spot because of Cleary. Not to mention, there is a precedent set from not even a year ago that the Wings are willing to demote players to Grand Rapids at the expense of veterans with nothing of value to offer the team. 

 

Realistic is knowing Ken Holland's history and realizing how this is going to play out. None of which makes the Red Wings a better team come September. I don't quite understand what making a trade has to do with Cleary either. Much like the Quincey signing, Holland's best course of action was to do nothing. Instead, in typical fashion, he made a bad situation worse by clinging to his fascination with players he knows and washed up veterans. I can somewhat deal with striking out on free agents, but making senseless moves for the sake of doing something is far worse than just letting everything be. 

 

Again, I ask what is the direction of the Red Wings organization under Ken Holland right now? It obviously isn't youth movement, as many times as Holland prefers to lie to us otherwise. Holland is insulting the fan base with claims of letting the kids play when every move he makes indicates the opposite entirely. It isn't win now either or else we aren't all discussing Dan Cleary re-signing. So that leads me to believe extending the playoff streak and lingering in mediocrity is the preferred vision of the front office. 


 

If he happens to be healthy enough to play come playoff time, we'll probably end up being glad we have him. 

 

Yeah, Cleary will look terrific not being able to skate in our five game first round loss. 




#2531229 Wings re-sign Cleary $1.5 mill + $1mill in game bonuses

Posted by MotorCityMadness on 10 July 2014 - 05:15 PM

Is Holland all there mentally? Otherwise...

 

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#2531194 Wings re-sign Cleary $1.5 mill + $1mill in game bonuses

Posted by Shaman on 10 July 2014 - 04:45 PM

 

This same article also has Holland saying Cleary will have to beat out other players to be in the lineup. But lets ignore that because it isn;t in line with Holland bashing.

 

Because Cleary beat Nyquist, Jurco, Tatar, Sheahan and Pulkkinen last year in camp.

 

If you believe that, there is no hope for you.




#2531132 Wings re-sign Cleary $1.5 mill + $1mill in game bonuses

Posted by Nev on 10 July 2014 - 04:05 PM

A  1 year deal for 500k would have been a terrible signing.  

 

This?  This is bad beyond words.




#2531090 Wings re-sign Cleary $1.5 mill + $1mill in game bonuses

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 10 July 2014 - 03:43 PM

As a moderator here, I'm just glad the Wings didn't announce the re-signing of Quincey and Cleary on the same day.  




#2528707 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by GoWings1905 on 01 July 2014 - 04:38 PM

Holland has the worst day, Stevie and Nill probably improve their two teams the most. I think it's pretty clear now Holland surrounded himself with very intelligent people and got most of the credit. Not to mention, the scouts and coaches in player development making him look even better.


#2518456 Wings will buy out Tootoo, not Franzen.

Posted by Richdg on 30 April 2014 - 08:24 PM

We can buyout TooToo anytime. We don't have to waste our compliance buyout to do it. 1.9 million doesn't matter to us-we have plenty of cap space. Buy out FRANZEN!!!!!!!!!!!! He is dead weight.




#2517260 Was Legwand worth it?

Posted by WingsallTheway on 26 April 2014 - 05:35 PM

No, we lost one of our best prospects who fills a whole that this team desperately needs in a scoring right handed center.

 

We made the playoffs which is great, but I think we could have done it without Legwand, or even with jarncrok in that position. Legwand was irrelevant IMO. 

 

The pick is now a second rounder, which can easily become a good player

 

Basically, we traded a 2nd pick (pretty high one too) and a promising prospect for 5 extra games of hockey. 




#2517404 The Franzen Hate.

Posted by wingfanatic4alltime on 26 April 2014 - 08:02 PM

No matter what this "mental situation" is he is still making I believe 4 million bucks a year.  People who make 10 bucks an hour or less go through crap too but yet we suck it up and still perform at work.  His ass has to go.




#2502557 Perspective

Posted by Holmstrom96 on 28 March 2014 - 08:29 AM

I am excited for next year, but I'll be really bummed if we miss the playoffs.  I hate baseball.




#2496551 Franzen calls out team

Posted by Richdg on 18 March 2014 - 03:59 PM

Lets set some things straight.

1. Franzen has not played great all year. He has played like crap fro most of the year. In October he played 12 games and scored 2 goals, both in the same game. In November he played in 10 games-missed 4 while hurt and scored 4 goals. In december he played in 8 games, missed 6 while hurt and scored 3 goals. In january he played 1 game, missed 12 and scored 0 goals. In February he played in 2 games, missed 4 others and scored 3 goals-all in the same game. March he has played in 7 games, missed none and has 3 goals. But again nothing the last 4.

2. Leaders lead, not push. If you want to lead Johan, put the puck in the net! That is how leaders do it.

3. Leaders also don't disappear. I understand that no one scores in every game. But goals scorers do it more than once a month. Your even worse, because when you don't score you stop skating, checking, playing D etc.....




#2491333 Datsyuk shut down for 3 weeks

Posted by GoalieManPat on 05 March 2014 - 08:22 PM

Per mlive. Unbelievable. The Olympics knock down our top two players.

 

Except both were injured before the Olympics....




#2491555 Nicklas Lidstrom:Greatest Red Wing Ever

Posted by FireCaptain on 06 March 2014 - 01:04 AM




#2490251 Official 2014 NHL Trade Deadline Thread

Posted by gcom007 on 05 March 2014 - 01:42 PM

Anyone who actually thought Mantha could be moved was out of their damn minds.