Flames devote part of practice to learning how to fight
The Calgary Flames are learning their lessons in truculence at training camp.
In a rare sight for an NHL club, the team devoted part of Thursday's practice to fighting, showing several players from their group of non-regulars about technique, how to engage an opponent and what to do when engaged in a fight.
"As we did in the past years, we're just trying to teach the kids to defend themselves," head coach Bob Hartley explained after practice. "That's what we're trying to teach our young players."
The players - which included centres Paul Byron and Corbin Knight, right winger Ben Hanowski and left winger Trevor Gillies - paired up and sparred under the watch of an outside instructor and threw punches without the intent to connect.
Hartley added that the purpose of the instruction wasn't to use them as an aggressor or fight instigator. "If you’re going to drop your gloves you have to know the dangers,” he said.
The Flames' regular roster already includes enforcers like wingers Brian McGrattan and Brandon Bollig and defenceman Deryk Engelland who signed a three-year, $8.7 million contract over the summer.
If a player aged 18 or 19 signs an entry-level contract with a club (with his age calculated on Sept. 15 of the year he signed the contract) but does not play in at least 10 NHL games, the contract will "slide" or be extended one year. The extension does not apply if the player turns 20 between Sept. 16 and Dec. 31 in the year he signed the contract. Depending on the contract's structure, the player's cap hit can be affected either by an increase or a decrease. Players who sign at age 18 can have their contract extended (or "slide") two seasons. CBA reference: Section 9.1 (d) (P. 23-24)
They said Helm is going to play on Datsyuk's wing. They havent confirmed where Zetts is playing yet as far as I know. Whether that's center or wing probably depends on Weiss. Its all speculation at this point.
I personally wouldn't mind seeing Dats, Zetts, Weiss and Sheahan down the middle. You could roll 4 lines pretty comfortably and spread out the scoring.
WTF is wrong with some people? Do you actually try to find the negative in everything just so you have something to ***** about? Ericsson stated that he will be ready to go for the first game of the season and this Alfredsson situation has been well known for months now. He is 41 years old and it has been stated numerous times that management would be happy to have him back if he decides he is healthy, even if he can only play 60-65 games. But all of a sudden the sky is falling. I swear some of you lie awake at night, hoping and preying a Red Wing gets injured just so you can say "I told you so".... Pathetic...
Best just to stay out of these threads krsmith17. It's not worth it...
I'm going to laugh and laugh and laugh if Tatar signs a more "team friendly" deal than Dekeyser. Everybody is overly worried about Tatar, but the local guy isn't signed either. What if he's the one with the "ego problem" or whatever else is being suggested about Tatar? People act like Tatar is some kind of bad seed because he's trying to get the best deal he can. But clearly Dekeyser is doing the same thing and everyone is mum.
Truth is, neither are currently signed because their value is really hard to determine. They've both played better than your average rookie but don't have a track record. As such, it's hard for both management, and their agents, to figure out what their proper value is. So it takes time.
Scrolling back through this thread makes me chuckle. How funny would it be if Dekeyser was the one who played hardball and not Tatar. Ya know, after a lot of folks made Tatar out to be some ego maniac who was just biding his time before holding the team over the coals.
I think it's interesting that everyone is blaming KH for this deal not being done, but if it were Tatar instead of Dekeyser we'd be inundated with comments about how Tats is an egomaniac who puts himself before the team. Double standard much?
Dekeyser has only played 72 professional hockey games. Whatever he and his agent are asking based on his modest point production and ice time is almost certainly too much. But god forbid anybody call them out, because he's from Michigan.
In terms of his birthday...yes, if he was born 1 month earlier, he would have just finished his 4th full year in junior. He turned 18 before his 50 goal season even began (so it wasn't 50 goals as a 17/18 year old).
I kinda feel like I'm putting the guy down now, which is not the intent...I'm simply suggesting that I wouldn't put much stock in his junior stats.
Going back to his birthdate and other comments around size...I'd probably even those two out. I agree that it takes a bit longer for a guy his size to develop, so being close to 1 year older than a lot in his draft year may not be as big of a deal. However, one could look at his size and suggest it is easier for him to dominate against guys that are much smaller at 17 and 18 years old....but it likely won't help when he makes the jump to the next level.
No I don't think you're putting him down. Just hesitant to classify him as a budding star. And that's completely fair considering he's just coming out of junior.
A lot of factors will go into the development of this kid... can't wait to see the result.