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#2683122 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by Son of a Wing on 13 July 2016 - 11:41 PM

Very few teams carry 8 D for more than a few games here and there. Helm's contract guarantees him a top 9 spot, so unless they waste Sheahan on the 4th line there's no room for Mantha or AA. Holland won't keep them to play on the 4th line.

 

Agreed.  Both with the roster as it is I think it's the most likely scenario.

 

There is no way Sproul or Ouellet would get waived before Frk.




#2683114 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by Son of a Wing on 13 July 2016 - 11:07 PM

Zetterberg Larkin Nyquist
Vanek Nielsen Tatar
Helm Sheahan Abdelkader
Miller Glendening

Those are more or less locks to be regulars. Frk is this year's Pulk. Big AHL numbers, lacks things he needs to be a good NHL player, but will probably start with the team. Jurco probably gets the other 4th line spot, square peg in the round hole. Ott probably makes the team. That's the 14 forwards. Holland will stammer about how Mantha, AA, and maybe a couple other guys are good enough but won't play a top nine role because of numbers and trading is hard, like, really REALLY hard and you have to give up a good player to get anything of value back and he won't do that, so they'll be riding the bus in GR. The defense will be a fuster cluck, Jensen will be waived to much crying and clear, whoever loses out of Marchenko, XO, and Sproul will get claimed. A rumor will leak out that whoever gets lost on waivers threatened to go to Europe instead of GR and fans will cry about him for a year until everyone figures out he's nothing special anyway.

 

Frk and Pulkkinen are nowhere near comparables in terms of numbers in the AHL.

 

121 Points in 119 Games

68 Points in 149 Games

 

You can guess who's who.

 

We're not waiving one of Sproul/Ouellet/Marchenko to keep Frk as a 14th forward...




#2683112 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by Son of a Wing on 13 July 2016 - 10:39 PM

Well if that's you're reasoning with Frk, then it should carry through to the defence.

 

Ouellet, Sproul, and Jensen will all be on the roster with that thinking.

 

After all...they have all proven more than Frickin Frk.




#2683109 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by Son of a Wing on 13 July 2016 - 09:52 PM

Mantha, Nosek and AA have exemptions left. Frk does not. The 3 can start the season in GR without danger. Frk has no exemptions. Unless Frk s***s the bed in pre-season then it's absolutely possible that he'll be here with one of the other guys with exemptions.

I'd prefer Mantha, AA and Frk be here, but this is Holland and he has to re-sign Helm and Miller. Plus refuses to dump Nyquist for a top defender. At least so far he has refused to...

 

Helm was a decent signing.  What trade did Holland refuse to give up Nyquist for? 




#2683108 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by Son of a Wing on 13 July 2016 - 09:46 PM

Also you're skewing the numbers.  17F vs 5D for initial roster counts? lol

 

If you're including Frk, you have to include Ouellet and others...




#2679394 The Holiday tradition: 2016 Draft thoughts.....

Posted by Son of a Wing on 25 June 2016 - 09:57 AM

Holland and the draft team earn the benefit of the doubt here.

Some of you guys go a little crazy on the tiny snippets written about these players when we've never even seen them play.


#2677269 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by Son of a Wing on 09 June 2016 - 08:02 PM

I'm right here brah

 

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#2677258 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by Son of a Wing on 09 June 2016 - 06:47 PM

 

Nielsen isn't good enough. We'll need a lot more to be competitive next year. We got enough depth players. The only Islander I want is Okposo. It's not likely to happen but he would make us a lot better.

 

Yup...because I said that's all we needed this off-season...

 

Quit manipulating other peoples statements to fit what you want to argue about.


Also Nielsen would have led our team in scoring this year. But call him a depth player all you want...




#2677224 Wings hire John Torchetti as 2nd Assistant

Posted by Son of a Wing on 09 June 2016 - 10:06 AM

Awesome.  Now let's focus on the draft and free agents.




#2676880 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by Son of a Wing on 02 June 2016 - 04:44 PM

There's always a way to keep him if they wanted to (trade bouwmeester, or other assets) and his salary isn't that high next season ... This would be his 3rd team already

We know who is far superior which is why even comparing them is ludicrous .... Might as well compare Patrick kane with someone who has the same skills but half the points

I'd say yandle/shattenkirk are good comparables, but that's just my opinion

 

 

You're stating that like it's a lot...  He's played almost entirely for one team.  Just one half season before he was traded very early in his career.  

 

How is this a negative?  In fact that's below average in terms of a player's movement over 400 games.




#2676859 The Holiday tradition: 2016 Draft thoughts.....

Posted by Son of a Wing on 02 June 2016 - 11:29 AM

I'm really looking forward to this draft.  Should be lots of activity.

 

Haven't seen many of the players play very much so I can't say I'm really hoping for any one player.

 

I wouldn't be surprised at all if we don't end up picking at our current position.




#2676767 Dustin Brown losing captaincy

Posted by Son of a Wing on 29 May 2016 - 09:44 PM

I didn't mean "it works" in the sense that it would dramatically improve the team. I've always thought that stripping the captaincy from a player would just create a very awkward situation in the dressing room - leaving one player dejected and maybe creating sympathetic resentment against management or a coach. I should have said more that their example shows that changing captains doesn't ruin the dynamic of a team and they can move on.

 

Maybe it's just specific to the San Jose situation, though, since they stripped it from Marleau and Thornton and therefore it didn't seem as big a deal. In other team's situations, I could see a player demanding a trade or other internal problems.

 

I think it would depend on how close the room is.  

 

If I had lost the captaincy I would be disappointed as well.  However, if say my best friend was given it instead. I would be genuinely happy for him and wouldn't have any awkwardness.  If a teammate whom you're not really close with was given it, it would be awkward...




#2676673 IIHF World Championships

Posted by Son of a Wing on 27 May 2016 - 12:24 PM

Short update on Nyquist: he did not make the Swedish team that will play the World Cup of Hockey in Toronto, September.

All in all I agree with the decision to leave him out when looking at the roster.

 

I hope this is the kick in the ass he needs to motivate him to bring his game to another level.

 

One can dream...




#2676348 IIHF World Championships

Posted by Son of a Wing on 21 May 2016 - 02:47 PM

Larkin is going to be a stud.

I have to keep telling myself he's only 19.


#2676346 IIHF World Championships

Posted by Son of a Wing on 21 May 2016 - 02:43 PM

Great game. Go Canada Go!
Larkin player of the game for US