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#2680032 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by VM1138 on 29 June 2016 - 06:25 AM

To those who want to save money: for what? There's nothing as good as Stamkos coming down the pipe. Not getting him just guarantees we continue to float aimlessly with nothing but depth players.

#2679704 Lesser FA players.

Posted by Datsyukian-Deke on 27 June 2016 - 03:30 PM

Lesser FA signings would be pointless for this team. I'd rather have the young guys fill those roles and develop. We have room for about 2 stud forwards and a stud defenseman. Signing anyone else would force us to expose our good prospects to waivers.

#2679383 The Holiday tradition: 2016 Draft thoughts.....

Posted by amato on 25 June 2016 - 09:46 AM

hmm Hronek does sound decent.. Offensive d man, playing in Czech pro league "running power plays" and "better with the puck on his stick." Those are good but man, 163 at 6 feet tall.. Kid needs to put on some serious muscle.

#2677892 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by joesuffP on 16 June 2016 - 06:36 PM

We're a slick puck moving dman away from being able to play a different style of game. Lose Quincey, buyout Ericsson, give Smith a larger role and possibly add a good offensive defensemen and this is a different style of team

#2677827 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by krsmith17 on 15 June 2016 - 09:26 PM

Like I've said many times in past posts, we shouldn't be building for next year, we should be building for a couple years from now... Getting rid of a few bad contracts in one year while adding a stud defenseman would be a huge success. Of course I don't expect anything close to this to happen, but to me, it's the route "I" would personally go...

I think that team on paper would squeeze into a playoff spot next year, but would be in great position to make a Cup run in a couple years time...

#2677673 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 14 June 2016 - 03:56 PM

With Oulette, Sproul, and Jensen out of options, I think we should consider carrying 8 Dmen and 13 forwards this year. It would allow us to keep 2 of them (O+S probably). Then we can make a D trade as the year goes on.


That's with the guys we have, of course. More ideal would be a trade that brings in a top pairing defender and likely sends some of our blueline out.

#2677440 Petition to change Lil Caesars Arena to Gordie Howe Arena

Posted by VM1138 on 11 June 2016 - 08:37 AM

As already pointed out, this is about money.  Naming rights are huge and are a major part of business plans.  They can't (even if they wanted to, probably) just change the name to a non-business name.  They'd lose out on hundreds of millions of dollars.  What they'll do is put a big statue of him out in front, name a street after him, or name a wing or part of the arena after him.


I think Toronto has something like a hall of legends, and I think the Wings need to do the same thing.  Statues of the greats (not just Howe and Lindsay, which are the ones that are currently at the Joe, I think) ringed around the arena.

#2677499 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by krsmith17 on 12 June 2016 - 09:22 AM

I'm assuming that comment was directed at me saying we shouldn't trade Jurco? I've always said that Jurco is going to be a very good middle 6 winger, with top 6 potential, same for Jarnkrok and Janmark. A player doesn't need to be a "superstar" to not want to trade him. To trade a player with Jurco's potential as a throw-in just to get rid of Datsyuk's contract with one year remaining on it would be poor management in my opinion.

I'd hate to lose Jurco in any trade right now just because I feel his value is at an all-time low right now. However if he was part of the package that brought in a top pairing defenseman, I'd be fine with that, but not just to trade Datsyuk's contract...

#2677223 Wings hire John Torchetti as 2nd Assistant

Posted by HockeytownRules19 on 09 June 2016 - 10:02 AM

UPDATE: #RedWings EVP & GM Ken Holland announced today that the team has hired John Torchetti as an assistant coach.


#2677100 Possible Leak of Florida Panthers New Logo

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 07 June 2016 - 08:26 AM


Preferred the whale tail did you? 






The person who designed this logo should be in the HHOF.  The blue whale tail on top of the "subtle" white H and the green W beneath.  In contrast, the person who designed the Hurricanes logo should be sent to the minors to design logos for beer league teams.  

#2676945 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by Aethernum on 04 June 2016 - 08:41 AM

Don't agree ... A team like Carolina for example who's cash strapped right now would love to get that datsyuk contract and save 7.5 of actual cash , the way I see it we'd both be helping eachother out , why in the hell would we have to give away a pulkkinen or jurco (yes I realize they haven't done anything significant yet,but both are young and im not ready to write them off yet as NHL busts )

I can't imagine us offering say datsyuks contract and a 4th for a 7th from Carolina that they'd laugh in our faces and hang up with everything going on there

They're going to ask for a sweetener because they can. Because who else can we go to? Because this is a situation in which our team has no leverage, and if you think any team is going to do us the favor of getting us out of a $7.5M hit without taking anything in return, you're nuts.

#2676862 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by WingedWheel91 on 02 June 2016 - 12:40 PM

Your funny

Want a current comparable ... Keith yandle , puts up numbers doesn't do much else , go ask the Rangers if they don't regret giving up duclair and what else they did to acquire him

Shattenkirk isn't a great defender , he's been hurt last few seasons .. He was - 14 this season on a very good blues team and that's with him putting up numbers

It would be a waste of good assets to acquire him and a waste of salary cap it would take to lock him up longterm


Erik Karlsson also "puts up numbers", "isn't a great defender" and was -2 this season - but could very easily win the Norris trophy in 2016.


There are very few Nick Lidstrom's who play every part of the game at an elite level - so to compare positional players by generalizing their abilities into: Good at this/Not good at that/OK at this categories is unproductive in my opinion.  What matters at the end of the day, is how valuable a player can be to his team... I'm not an advocate of over-paying for anyone, but to argue that Shattenkirk won't fit with the Red Wings because all he does is "put up numbers" is profoundly dumb. Keep in mind, he ranked 19th in NHL defence scoring (which was 1st on his team) and missed 10 games - but did this from the 2ND Pairing at both even strength, and on the powerplay. 


I remember losing to the Tampa Bay Lightning in 5 games because we literally didn't have anyone who "put up numbers" - especially on the back end.

#2676610 Wings acquire SJ prospect Dylan Sadowy

Posted by kickazz on 26 May 2016 - 06:27 PM

That means we will probably never see him in a wings lineup

We will as long as he can do other things besides that. And from what I'm seeing and hearing he can. Blashill is all about having players who can defend their teammates. Much moreso than Babcock was. 

#2675641 Fixing this mess....

Posted by marcaractac on 10 May 2016 - 05:41 PM

Ya I think the best thing is to give mantha athanasiou Larkin tons of ice time and let them develop and hopefully turn out to be really good players which we all believe they can be

I'd stay away from stamkos cause he will cost 10+ per and has blood clot issues and if he truly is demanding that he has to be a center I say pass

Okposo as well I'd pass on , would cost 7 I believe and I think he needs a star forward like he had in Tavares to make him a better player , and didn't he dissapear in the playoffs? I'd just want to be sure we give the right player(s) a 7+ cap hit

Think our best route is to let the kids play and to make some trades for defensemen and maybe prospects with potential and hopefully find a kid who didn't have a chance somewhere else and play well for the wings, I don't think this is the best ufa class and we should save our money for someone else at another time

I'd love a backes but I see him returning to the blues and I'd love lucic just so we can have someone who can strike fear into other teams players but I'm not willing to give him a 6x6 type deal ... Maybe 5 million x4 since we have some kids with cheap salaries now but I know lucic will get more on the market

Don't know about you guys but I'm anxiously awaiting draft day since I believe they'll be a ton of trades and names we wouldn't suspect to be traded to be in fact moved


If Stamkos has interest in coming to your team, you open up that chequebook. He is a franchise center in his prime. He would nullify the loss of Datsyuk immediately, as well as be our best player by a long shot. Imagine our pp. 

Listen to Holland's presser again, he actually names Okposo as a player that could change the style of the team.

Without guessing who won't be back, would you all be excited if he landed Radulov, Okposo and Yandle? Of course, trades would be needed to have the cap, but would that fill needs? Since Datsyuk says we need Radulov, maybe if Holland lands him, Datsyuk comes back for his year??


This leaves us severely lacking center depth and a top dman. I don't think Yandle is the answer at all. Would love to see Okposo as a Wing though. 


For me, the dream is Stamkos, Trouba and Okposo. Easier said than done, of course. But if they can get Trouba or another top dman at the draft via trade, it would greatly help attract UFAs come July 1st. But finding a center is far more important than bringing in a guy like Radulov. Even if it is a band-aid solution at center to take some of the pressure off of Larkin and AA for a year or two. Obviously Stammer would give us a permanent one-two punch down the middle with he and Larkin. 

#2676307 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by kickazz on 20 May 2016 - 02:13 PM

Yet Nyquist didn't improve and sank to Abbys production. We've got a $4.75 million contract scoring 17 goals and your concern is the guy who scored 19 and does everything else. Didn't you criticise this idea in Mantha's thread? "If a guy scores and doesn't do much else vs someone who can do everything else".