Just thinking of other guys that were known to be lazy at times, in their end.... Hull, Federov, Modano, Mario, Jagr, Selanne, Bure, Yzerman for the first 10 years of his career, Hossa, etc etc..... Most of those guys didn't learn to play D or on every shift until later in their careers.
Now I do wonder how many on here complaining about ovie efforts defend Franzen? How many defended Federov? How many would change their tune if ovie was here?
BTW, I hope Oates pisses him off and he demands a trade. A line of Z-Datsyuk-Ovie would be the best in the NHL, and it wouldn't even be close!
When you talk about Fedorov are you talking about the two time Selke Trophy winning Sergei Fedorov? The one who learned to play hockey in the Soviet Red Army system which essentially created the "two way forward"? That Sergei Fedorov?
So here's a mind bender for everyone: Say the Wings take the 7th spot & cross over to the Metro to play the Pens. They take the series, stay in the Metro & beat the winner of the Rangers/Flyers series. Are the Wings not then the champs of the Metro division for 2013-14? Say C'Bus pulls the same feat in the Atlantic & you now have a Metro team as the Atlantic division champ. Do each hang a banner as the champions of the opposite division at the start of the next season? Part of me thinks that Gary does stuff like this on purpose just to completely troll fans.
Am I mistaken in the fact that Division winners were awarded on the basis of winning the division in the regular season and not the playoffs?
How many of those awards are heavily inflated by his scoring? He's a competitor for sure but I don't think I'd make him a captain.
But that's not what you said. You called him a complimentary player...and he's not. I'd agree that there are better players in the league, or guys that are better leaders or whatever. But to say he's a complimentary player is silly. He had four 100 points seasons while being the primary offensive threat on his team.
You're saying he's not "the guy" because he doesn't play defense...and he doesn't, I agree. But lots of guys don't play defense yet still get credit for being first rate players. Certainly nobody would call Kessel, Vanek, Kane, etc. complimentary players. But for whatever reason it's popular these days to downplay just how good Ovechkin is...even if he could be better.
My second beef is the way this team is build: there are too many europeans and not enough hardworking NA guys andd I truly believe having more good ol michigan kids would help getting the fanbase excited and more "into it" /quote]
Hmmmm, never really gave the thought of Weiss playing wing...that could work out wonderfully. BOTH Jurco and Glendening have exemptions remaining to cover next season, so much like Nyke this season, they can start the year in GR without the chance of losing them, thus opening up two roster spots up front...lets look at this:
I hate Franzen anyway, and I especially hate him on the top line. Nyke should be there and that is where I am starting him.
Nyke - Dats - Z
Weiss - Leggy - Alfie
Fish - Tinky - Abby
Franzine - Barbie - Miller
(Andy - Ferraro - Dirty Harry)
Kronner - Big E
Smitty - UFA (Morris)
Diesel - UFA (Mitchell)
That's 24 players with Glenny and Jurx stating GR. Trading Kindl (no so) Fire and Almost Almqvist for a couple of picks. If you feel the pinch of a lower cap, then Andy can be packaged as well, or maybe sign bit cheaper D-man instead of one of Mitchell or Morris. Unless you'd want to roll the dice on Marchenko and only sign Morris.
I know this is a Weiss thread, and I really didn't mean to respond with a roster of possible next season ufa's, but the idea of Weiss playing wing lead me to where I may be able to put others...sorry.
Those are the worst, most forced nicknames I've ever seen. Seriously....please just type their names out.
This simple question led to one of my favorite exchanges in the history of my time on this forum:
It looks like Yellow Mustard is going to miss some time after catching that elbow last night against the Sabres. Its really bad timing too, because our defense already thin with Big Poppa out with a concussion and Bandit serving his 5 game suspension. I would say this forces us to call up someone from GR, most likely Billy the Kid or The Player Formerly Known As Steve. We might be in trouble on the back end until we get some regulars back, since this leaves the Boogeyman as our #1 defenseman. And you know what that means!!!!
Your right .... Not all top prospects are sure nhl players ... Just bugs me everyone was acting like he was a nobody prospect we gave up
You just never know what you'd got until you play the kids , look, at sheahan everyone thought he was gonna be a bottom 6 guy but he's been really impressive and proving he might be a 2nd line center after all
Anyways gonna take a break from all this and do my workouts before the habs game starts lol
Nobody is acting like he is a nobody prospect. You're making that up. People are being rational and saying he, like almost every other prospect, is never a sure thing. Both teams got what they needed out of this trade. Just accept it and move on. Regardless of how he turns out, there is absolutely no chance he would have stepped in and filled the role Legwand is filling RIGHT NOW. That is what the trade comes down to. Stop assuming everyone is saying Jarnkrok is a nobody prospect. Nobody has said that at all.
There is a difference between being happy with the trade and thinking Jarnkrok is a nobody. You're acting as if there is no middle ground here.