Kickazz, so are you saying I made up that link that I posted? I maybe edited it to support what I was saying? Please tell me, because you would be dead wrong. I simply searched and that is what I found, was it my fault it was only the last part of the interview? I see you conveniently left out the last part of the interview to support what you said, unlike my link that didn't even have the first part of the interview on it. PLUS if you actually read my post I did say that an MLive article said Babs pushed for him, so I wasn't entirely dispelling what you said, but the article I read stated that his agent called him, not Holland and not Babcock. Now your article says that Commie in return called babcock to find out if he had a chance, and babs told him ya.
Either way, I think we can both agree that during training camp, once again Commie fell out of babs favor and that is why his career ended up the way it did and once your in hot with Babs, you are toast. Just like my original statement, ie. Legwand, Modano, Tootoo, Weiss, etc...etc...
So, even though your article had more information, you still failed to quote the part where Babs wound up treating him like s***, no matter what he told him in July. I believe that Commie should have gone with his gut to say no.
but honestly, do you really think that Babcock would answer him by saying, No, I don't want you, only Holland does, if you sign you will not get a chance to play...do you think that would fly with his GM? I honestly believe Babs was willing to give Commie the chance, but always had in the back of his mind what was really going to happen...the first oops and that was the end. And as we see, it now was.
You answered your own question to me.
This is your flaw. You look at one thing and automatically assume its the truth when most of the time it's just gossip and rumors. In this day and age even for the simplest things you need to swift thru evidence upon evidence before you can make claims. The problem is you have these biased attitudes towards players or coaches and you make it your reality. You're looking for ways to prove that Babcock was a bad coach and you're looking for ways to prove that Franzen was a useless hockey player by pushing these theories on these forums without sources and when you do have a source it tends to be wrong.
Secondly, I didn't leave anything off conveniently because that was a STRAW MAN FALLACY on YOUR part. I never claimed that Babcock didn't play Commodore or make him cry like a baby. Those are known facts and quite honestly who the hell cares? Commodore was a terrible player. I'm glad Babcock was smart enough to scratch him rather than play the usual dumb loyalty card like him and Holland did with Dan Cleary. Aren't you against Cleary being on the roster? So now all of a sudden you're all about sympathizing for Commodore and critiquing Babcock for not being loyal to Commodore but you complain about Cleary being on the roster?
And you better bet yer a** that players will be in a coaches dog house if they don't live up to expectations. That's how the world of sports is. Bust your a** and earn it, nothing it given to you on a platter.
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