Mantha also scored 50 last season ... I think his upside is way higher than athanasiou and I'd consider him above any other of our prospects if need be for a key trade
Nobody is arguing that.
He wasn't hidden, he was considered a first rounder for awhile... he dropped because of questions on how well his speed would transition, how well his tools could come together (my favorite line about him is 'he has a lot of tools, but no toolbox'), and his commitment to learning defensive play. By the time the draft rolled around he fell to the 4th round. But don't kid yourself, he wasn't hidden or unknown.
Also look at the top 20 for the QMJHL vs the OHL. The OHL has a much larger spread of age compared to the QMJHL, whereas AA is on the highest end of the spectrum, Mantha is closer to the average age of the other top scorers.
Sure is nice to see he's proving people wrong and living up to that high potential. Not sure what he has to do to get respect...
Athanasiou's numbers look good in the OHL, but, he's not like Mantha in the QMJHL where it's his second season, Athanasiou is I believe in his 4th year in the OHL. Players who take that long to develop in the OHL tend not to translate well into the AHL/NHL. He projects to be a 2nd/3rd line tweener if he makes it, and that would only happen if he decides to play on both sides of the puck, his defensive work ethic has been a huge sticking point of his.
It's Mantha's 3rd season. Athansiou has played one more year and is only 1 month older than Mantha....
What does that have to do with anything? My point is the Wings have been following a recipe of mediocrity the last few seasons which leave them in the worst possible spot a team can be in: Too good for a high pick, too bad to be an actual contender.
Actually they've been rebuilding on the fly while maintaining playoff contention.
How this is can be viewed as a negative thing is beyond me...
It seems every year we have a new young player who looks good in limited action and is deemed "untouchable" by fans.
Then the next year comes, he plays more minutes and gets exposed a bit more or injured and doesn't explode into the "future" player he was predicted as and everyone moves onto the next flavour of the week.
It has recently happened with Helm, then Smith, then Nyquist, then Tatar, and now Jurco and Sheahan and I'm sure it will continue on with Pulkkinen, Jankrok and Mantha. It's like clockwork every year...
Bottom-line everyone's available for the right price and maybe we all(myself included) have a bad habit of over-valuing our young guys.
so Myers cap hit is $5.5m ? for another 5 years. So he's 24, put him in a position at Detroit where he isnt your top pairing guy he could be a steal be the end of that contract. he is a R/H as well. He's the highest paid D on the Sabres roster and also the youngest, maybe he's feeling he has to live up to his wagebill.
Here's and idea, Myers & Tallinder for Quincey, Kindl, McCollum and Almqvist.
We have some GREAT defence prospects coming in the next few years so why give up assets for an unproven financial burden?