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#2546560 What happened to Calle Jarnkrok?

Posted by Son of a Wing on 04 November 2014 - 01:09 PM




Was he really our number one prospect?  Maybe our #1 C prospect? Our "#1C prospect behind Sheahan" Whatever it is...

...and no offense to you krsmith, but I hate when the title "#1 prospect" is thrown around about any player because that is certainly a debatable title.




I believe mantha was our number one prospect




At the time of the trade Jarnkrok was most certainly not anywhere near the #1 prospect in the system by most fans, or by any reputable publications.


He was well behind Mantha, Nyquist, Tatar, Mrazek. Jurco, and Sheahan. He was in a group along with Ouellet, Sproul, Marchenko etc. He was closer to 10th than 1st, especially considering the Wings brass felt Glendening was more ready to play in the NHL over him.


As far as the rumors about him wanting to go home, he did eventually admit that he had considered returning to Sweden when he realized his chances of cracking the Wings line-up any time soon were remote. I don't think any sort of move was imminent though and I don't think he had vocalized those wishes so they likely had little to no impact on the Wings decision to trade him.


I think he was dealt because he wasn't going to be able to crack the roster for years and they had a pressing need for a center right then, having lost their top 5 centers to injuries at the time.


According to RedWingsCentral which WAS a great source of information on our prospects, he was ranked #1 for four straight rankings until he slipped to #4 in his last one.


But yes, he was for a year or so, considered our best prospect.

#2546458 What happened to Calle Jarnkrok?

Posted by Son of a Wing on 03 November 2014 - 05:10 PM

You can't just focus on small sample sizes with young players.  


His success in only a few games was blown out of proportion last year much like his lack of success is this year.


He'll be fine.

#2545684 Weiss sent down to GR- conditioning assignment

Posted by Son of a Wing on 31 October 2014 - 11:35 AM


Eh...I don't think this has anything to do with UFAs, really.  Your own players are just as likely to get injured.  The Weiss situation is tough because he lied about his condition when we signed him.  Normally that wouldn't have happened.  The luck the Wings have had with UFAs is just that: bad luck.


Modano got his wrist sliced open.  Weiss misled us (supposedly) about an injury and sat out most of last season.  Samuelsson held us hostage because his boob hurt.  I mean, there really isn't anything to be learned by this. It's just a horrible fluke and we happen to have had three of them the last few years.


Are you just assuming this??  Everyone has a physical and a medical history before they sign a contract.


He was confident (as were our doctors) that he could come back from his injury and he hasn't been able to.  


That's not lying.  Unless you know something the rest of us don't.


I'm frustrated with the situation but I'm not going to just assume he lied because it's convenient.

#2545000 Chara out 4-6 weeks with knee injury

Posted by Son of a Wing on 29 October 2014 - 04:19 PM

Seeing as Boston has had such recent cap troubles and were forced to trade Boychuk, I really think the absolute last thing they would do is trade assets for an injury replacement who's getting paid 5.5 million.


This does not affect Myers value in the least.

#2544916 Weiss sent down to GR- conditioning assignment

Posted by Son of a Wing on 28 October 2014 - 09:53 PM

Weiss is the type of player that is hurt by the current CBA's limitation on the amount of salary a team can eat when trading a player. Weiss is a perfect example of a player that might flourish on another team, but is relegated to the bench or the minors because no other team will take his contract. If the league allowed trades like in baseball, where the Wings could eat a chunk of Weiss' salary in order to facilitate a trade, both the player and the organization would be able to get a fresh start.  


The league does allow salary retention.

Up to %50. 

#2543503 Rating the Defense through 6 games

Posted by Son of a Wing on 23 October 2014 - 10:26 AM

2 pages and no one has mentioned our best defender yet: Howard. He is back to his steady solid self. Being healthy helps a lot. DD continues to develop. he was already our best defensive Dman and you see the signs of development on O. Smith is also continuing to grow. These 2 should be paired together and by the end of the year they will be a legit top pair in the NHL. Cheap too!


Actually there was a Howard(hating) thread. Didn't last long...with good reason...lol

#2543421 Franzen to 7-day IR

Posted by Son of a Wing on 22 October 2014 - 03:15 PM

People seem to think that by adding talent to the top, everyone just bumps down the depth chart and their role changes.


Nope. This isn't a video game.  Glendening, Andersson and Miller are doing a great job in their checking/shutdown role through the first few games.  


So much so that they've earned more playing time.  They've had some of the toughest matchups and have shut down the opposition from scoring. 


Limiting goals is just as important as scoring them.  Look to the top-9 guys if you have issues with the amount of goals being scored.

#2543403 Franzen to 7-day IR

Posted by Son of a Wing on 22 October 2014 - 01:41 PM

Looking forward to Franzen coming back.  It'll help our offense.


Don't really understand a lot of the thoughts in this thread...


PK/GA is near top of the league and PP/GF is near bottom = trade/waive/sit the 4th line penalty killers!


Yeah ok....

#2542143 10/18 GDT - Maple Leafs 0 at Red Wings 1 (OT)

Posted by Son of a Wing on 18 October 2014 - 01:42 PM

Go Wings Go

I'll be at the game to tonight. So pumped!

#2541707 Weiss

Posted by Son of a Wing on 17 October 2014 - 11:53 AM


Remember the comments after the signing ? It was basically he has to be willing and attempt to a new system here. If you aren't working hard you won't like me (Babcock talking about his coaching), the team...


Babs loves players, that provide a 200 ft game. We will see if Weiss can do that, once he is getting his chance. For his sake he hope he does, otherwise this contract could turn out really bad.


Comments like this...



"We're looking for a guy to generate more in the middle," coach Mike Babcock said after watching Tuesday's informal skate (coaches can't go on the ice until next week's camp). "Can Weiss generate 50 points playing in the middle on our second line? I'm going to watch and see. We think he's going to be a way better player here."


Man he really had it out for him since the beginning...



#2541675 Weiss

Posted by Son of a Wing on 17 October 2014 - 10:04 AM

Not a chance. Weissy will be Weissy until he doesn't play like one


If you're going to sign every post can you just make it part of your signature so people have a choice to view it? Thanks.

#2540304 Jeff Petry; trade between us and oilers

Posted by Son of a Wing on 12 October 2014 - 11:03 AM

How about Adam Larsson?  Healthy scratch to start the season.


Former #4 overall pick and just 21.  RH defenseman with some size.  And yeah he's a Swede...

#2539159 10/9 GDT : Bruins 1 at Red Wings 2.

Posted by Son of a Wing on 08 October 2014 - 10:25 PM

FINALLY!!   :yahoo:

#2538945 Krys Barch unloads his frustrations

Posted by Son of a Wing on 07 October 2014 - 06:03 PM


But is he a player who's tough to play against in a playoff series?  Does he wear other teams down?


I say no to both questions.  Not saying Barch is tough to play against in the playoffs, but Miller is not my ideal 4th liner.  I think a 4th liner should be a rugged, larger forward who wears defenders down in the corner.  Miller is essentially a 6'2 toothpick with limited offensive skills, so he gets put on the 4th line.  


Well ya I agree to an extent.  Much like Datsyuk and Zetterberg aren't necessarily my "ideal" stars.  


I mean... I'd prefer them to be a few inches bigger and a few pounds heavier and a little more aggressive but since they're not I'm not going to discredit their other abilities. Much like I'm not going to discredit Millers.

#2538896 Krys Barch unloads his frustrations

Posted by Son of a Wing on 07 October 2014 - 04:47 PM


Please don't turn that into another pro/anti enforcer thread. My intention was to give inside on how a former NHL player feels degraded;pissed off and is giving his thoughts on which players are harder or easier to play against (we are talking about fourth liners here of course).


Frank.... you started the thread quoting a player complaining about how the role he and others fill for teams (enforcer/agitator) is being diminished.


I'm not sure how you're surprised that would turn into a discussion about exactly that.




btw. I'd rather spend time with cool, down to earth heavyweight guys instead of some mum's basement dwellers who aren't doing anything other than playing around with Excel state sheets 24/7 and act like know it all smartasses no appreciation more pity for that "new wave"


I'm not sure what you mean by this...