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#2568468 2015 Draft

Posted by Son of a Wing on 05 February 2015 - 11:03 AM

We have 5, yes, but none aside from Mrazek have been all that good consistently. Coreau and mccollum have great numbers this year in the AHL, but Coreau had pedestrian numbers at best in the echl. Perry has terrible numbers from what I recall though I admit I didn't look it up, and Paterson is in what, his 5th year in the OHL? And still doesn't have even good numbers. We have prospects but not good ones.

And let's say both goalies get hurt again next year, or the year after. A 1-2 combination of McCollum/Coreau/Paterson scares me. Not that drafting a goalie now will change that, but after this year we won't have a goalie prospect that has the potential to be an NHL starter.

And saying we have 5 we don't need more is like if I were to tell you since we have 30 forward prospects we shouldn't draft any more forwards.

 

Paterson played 4.5 years on a brutal Saginaw team and still managed to keep his save% over .900 and was even selected for the world juniors.

 

Since being traded to Kitchener this year he has posted 2.08 GAA and .932 S%.  Not to shabby...




#2568464 2015 Draft

Posted by Son of a Wing on 05 February 2015 - 10:39 AM

Smith you are truely a guy whose glass is half full. Yes Sheehan is on pace right now for 39 or 40 points. But those are not #2 C numbers. 60ish points is what good #2 C put up per year. Will he ever get there? Who knows. Larkin has yet to play a single pro hockey game and you are already saying he is a true #2 C. yet you insist Sproul is the "only top 4 D prospect we have" when Oullett and Marchenko have already passed him and are outproducing him. Now having 3 very good high end D prospects is a good thing not a bad one. But we are still a bit weaker at the F spot. You need more F's, we are losing a bunch of talent, and don't as of yet have the bodies to replace those guys-to say nothing of improving our teams depth and talent level. Yes guys like AA could be very good someday. No one is disagreeing with you. But as of today he hasn't blossomed nor has Mantha or Larkin for that matter.

Well that's just not true at all. Where do you get your numbers exactly??

 

Only 21 centers in the entire league put up over 60 points last year.  

 

So no...that is not the benchmark for a second-line center.

 

Also you seem to confuse potential ceiling with current ability.




#2568243 TANK IT! 2014-2015 Season

Posted by Son of a Wing on 04 February 2015 - 11:28 AM

So what is it ? Expecting the cup each year is seen as too much but being realistic also isn't right...

 

Nowhere are you being "realistic" frank.

 

You don't like the makeup of the team so you don't want to see them do well to give yourself satisfaction.

 

You genuinely seem sad that the team is doing well.  And that's a joke.




#2568236 TANK IT! 2014-2015 Season

Posted by Son of a Wing on 04 February 2015 - 11:11 AM

I suppose it fits nicely in the TANK thread. lol




#2568233 TANK IT! 2014-2015 Season

Posted by Son of a Wing on 04 February 2015 - 11:09 AM

Yeah well it's better than expecting too much and be disappointed at the end.

 

What a horrible attitude to have. lol  

 

Can't say I'm surprised...




#2568210 TANK IT! 2014-2015 Season

Posted by Son of a Wing on 04 February 2015 - 10:13 AM

 

See I've said nothing else since the disappointing - yeah I know some don't think so - off-season. I've just went in with no expectations at all if they make the playoffs fine, if not I won' t be disappointed and the young guns will still be one (although a tough one) richer. Do I like the roster/playstyle ? Not really I believe it could use a more size, grit and truculence but that's a discussion for another topic. Of course I wouldn' t have been disappointed with a top pick either especially in such a deep draft.

 

I think that speaks volumes...




#2567120 Franzen on IR

Posted by Son of a Wing on 30 January 2015 - 10:17 AM

I totally agree with you Kip. But next year is different.  Jurco and Pulk are better than any of the others we lost or did not re-sign.  I just hope that Holland isn't forced to lose one of them because Franzen may still "think" he can play.  I would love* for Franzen to get better and contribute 20 goals again (*not to be confused with me loving or even liking Franzen as a player) but its not going to happen, I think everyone here 100% feels the same way.  I suppose Holland could trade someone (Jurco or Andersson) but to me, and I think most agree, both of those guys are more valuable to this team than Franzen at this point in their respective careers.  Especially cap-wise.  I think its just time to cut the loss this summer, rather than be forced to trade someone or lose him to waivers in October.  I'd rather Franzen get sent down through waivers and hope that a team would take a chance on him rather than lose one of Pulk or Jurco in any fashion. (or even Andersson for that matter.)

 

I know we still have Kindl because Holland did not want to lose him for nothing, but Ouellet still had exemptions to keep Kindl here...Pulk and Jurco will not.

 

So many things wrong with this...

 

 I just hope that Holland isn't forced to lose one of them because Franzen may still "think" he can play.

 

If he still thinks he can play?  As if it's his choice if he's healthy? If he's healthy he'll be in the lineup and if not he'll be on LTIR.  Pretty simple. 

 

 I would love* for Franzen to get better and contribute 20 goals again but its not going to happen, I think everyone here 100% feels the same way.

 

Ummm nope they don't.

 

 I suppose Holland could trade someone (Jurco or Andersson) but to me, and I think most agree, both of those guys are more valuable to this team than Franzen at this point in their respective careers.

 

Andersson is not more valuable then Franzen. lol

 

I'd rather Franzen get sent down through waivers and hope that a team would take a chance on him rather than lose one of Pulk or Jurco in any fashion. (or even Andersson for that matter.)

 

Would never ever happen.




#2567108 Franzen on IR

Posted by Son of a Wing on 30 January 2015 - 08:58 AM

...how soon we forget.  We lost Nestrasil.  I know, he wasn't the best, but we still lost him due to overcrowding.  Jurco had exemptions, but he was obviously better, so Holland kept him.  Nesty wasn't a huge loss, but we still lost him.

 

Next year BOTH Jurco and Pulkkinen are out of exemptions.  We lose Cleary to UFA.  That's it.  Now Jurco and Pulkkinen are vying for one spot.  Holland WILL re-sign Nyquist, Jurco and Andersson (all RFA's) so that will leave just one spot.  It was minimal damage losing Nestrasil, but do you really want to lose one of Jurco or Pulk? Especially at the cost of keeping Franzen and his headcase here?  The time has come.  Either buy him out or give him the Pronger treatment for the next 5 years.  If we lose one of those two so we can have Franzen float around out there and peter in a few points and shots here and there, then something is wrong with Holland, seriously. Stop the bleeding somehow. Just don't lose Jurco or Pulk or ANYBODY else to roster overcrowding by useless players.

 

And, no it's not "fan speculation" on Franzen's head problems.  Its been said time after time, that he gets into funks that cause him to lose focus and have no desire to do anything.  The only speculation is what may be causing this...nothing personal Johan, just business, we need that roster spot.

 

Ha LGW knows better. You've had a personal hatred for Franzen for as long as I can remember.

 

And no Holland will not resign and keep Anderson at the expense of Jurco/Pulkkinen




#2566741 2016 World Cup of Hockey

Posted by Son of a Wing on 29 January 2015 - 02:19 PM

Talking of greed...

 

NHL sponsors say they expect the league to use next year's World Cup of Hockey to trial on-uniform advertising.




#2566733 Larkin or Mantha?

Posted by Son of a Wing on 29 January 2015 - 01:38 PM

All this O'Reilly for Larkin+ talk is silly anyways.  

 

Colorado doesn't need centers. They need a top 2-4 defenceman with comparable value and we don't have that to trade.




#2566691 1/29 GDT - Red Wings 1 at Lightning 5

Posted by Son of a Wing on 29 January 2015 - 09:10 AM

Nice GDT - But I think you (accidentally) granted Jonathon Bernier's biggest wish...

 

To meet his idol Nelson Mandela?




#2566685 TANK IT! 2014-2015 Season

Posted by Son of a Wing on 29 January 2015 - 09:05 AM

I just re-read the first post of this thread. And then laughed incredibly hard.  :lol:

 

 

Yup, pretty damn funny isn't it? At some point, I'd like to sit down and read the whole thread for a good chuckle...

 

Some people just need to troll... Funny how the only person who "Liked" the OP's rant was fat guy in a maltby jersey...

 

These are the same people that are lingering around GDT's at the beginning of games when we go down by a goal or two, but mysteriously fade into the abyss when we score a couple to tie it, and eventually go on to win the game...

 

******* Hilarious... :lol:

 

Yeah it's definitely why I bumped the thread. haha   :lol:




#2566563 TANK IT! 2014-2015 Season

Posted by Son of a Wing on 28 January 2015 - 11:19 AM

TANK IT




#2566555 Larkin or Mantha?

Posted by Son of a Wing on 28 January 2015 - 10:12 AM

Without starting another thread, here's this choice (unfortunately this may be an actual choice for Holland in 2016)

 

 

 

Sproul or Marchenko?  Which one do you keep?

 

I keep Sproul. Not that I want to get rid of Marchenko, there just won't be enough room.

 

2016-17 D:

 

Kronner - Ericsson

Dekeyser - Smith

Ouellet - Sproul

Jensen

 

Sproul and Marchenko wouldn't be battling for the same role anyways.  

 

Sproul is a potential offensive defenceman while Marchenko is a defensive defenceman.

 

Regardless, we'll probably end up carrying 8 anyways for injuries and depth.




#2566066 2016 World Cup of Hockey

Posted by Son of a Wing on 26 January 2015 - 03:47 PM

How about Germany vs. the rest of the world?

 

I think that could work.   

 

Only if they wear their Olympic outfits...

 

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