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#2592008 Definition of a real fan

Posted by Son of a Wing on 10 April 2015 - 10:51 AM

Why is it comical? I don't think it's unreasonable that people want to discuss what went wrong when things go bad. When things are good there is no reason to discuss at length what is going good. But when thing aren't good, you have more to discuss. It'd be the same for almost any situation where there is a good outcome and a bad one. Think about like Apollo 13. When everything was going good there was just regular discussions. But when things went bad then a TON of people came together to discuss the problems. That's just how it is with anything.

 

Except most (not all) don't come to have discussions.  They come to ***** and rant.  

 

"Holland sucks" "Trade Howard", "Quincey is a whistle fart".  That's not discussion and it get's old.

 

Again...not all are like this.  But it's those that make a bad name for the rest.




#2591983 Definition of a real fan

Posted by Son of a Wing on 10 April 2015 - 09:26 AM

Well, I thought my posts in the other thread were on topic (read: about the game) considering the game was the one that got us in the playoffs, and I was addressing how we got in the playoffs. Then they get deleted for being off-topic, but really, where would have been a good place to discuss it? I did consider starting a new thread, but...well I guess I'll just say it's probably better that I wasn't the one to start it.

 

Anyway, I certainly think that fans have the right to be negative. Along the lines of what Jesusberg was saying, of course people are going to be reactionary in the moment. I doubt anybody would have a problem with someone being reactionary after something positive happens, but for some reason the 'sky is falling' or 'x player sucks' posts in the same situation are frowned upon. Posts in those situations (positive or negative) should be taken with a grain of salt. 

 

And I guess I'll say this here too. In the context of making a prediction about the outcome of a game, I don't understand why people get so bent out of shape about someone predicting a loss. The point of a prediction, after all, is not to be unreasonably optimistic. The point is to be right about the outcome. If the team has been playing poorly, it isn't a stretch by any means to expect it to continue until given a reason otherwise.

 

And along those lines, I don't see the point to posts along the lines of "Well I know he's not playing great right now, but I'm going to blindly support him through it so when he finally does come through I can say 'I never lost faith in you'"

And I'm not saying you shouldn't hope that they bounce back, I think everybody hopes they do. But it seems more about telling all the "Haters" that you were right and they were wrong, when in fact the "haters" were just giving an honest assessment of the situation as it stood at that time.

 

I guess what I'm trying to say is when a player or team is performing poorly, there isn't anything wrong with saying so.

 

I just think it's comical how LGWs active member base triples when we struggle and have bad games.




#2590746 Team next season?

Posted by Son of a Wing on 08 April 2015 - 04:10 PM

Comparable to JVR how?


#2590712 Erik Cole out for season, playoffs due to spinal cord contusion

Posted by Son of a Wing on 08 April 2015 - 01:04 PM

I f***en knew it man ! Ughh

And before everyone says we couldn't of predicted he'd get hurt which is true ... End result is this ended up being a wasted trade and wasted assets


Very frustrating to see him gone ... Could of done some great things with cole and mule in the playoffs
 

 

Thanks Captain Hindsight...




#2590014 Helene St. James says Howard starts and Z and Pavel reunited

Posted by Son of a Wing on 07 April 2015 - 01:29 PM

This is GREAT news if indeed he is in! Pav and Z together make a world of difference! Wonder who the other winger will be? How about Pulkkamania?

 

 

Z - Pav - Pulk

Nyquist - Weiss - Helm

Tatar - Sheahan - Jurco

Miller - Glenden - Ferrari

 

 

...I believe Helm will be up front, no matter, putting Pulk with Weiss/Gus, could be a good line too!

 

Lines have already come out...

 

Helm  -  Datsyuk  -  Zetterberg

Nyquist  -  Sheahan  -  Tatar

Weiss  -  Andersson  -  Pulkkinen

Miller  -   Glendening  -  Ferraro




#2590005 Tatar and Nyquist and Sheahan LINE

Posted by Son of a Wing on 07 April 2015 - 12:11 PM

This is going to make someone really mad. Right above you. Apparently, I am the coach.

 

Why would that make him mad?  He doesn't think Nyquist/Tatar should be on the third line....and they're not.  

 

That will be the second line.  




#2587913 Losing Streak affecting Babcock's Decision?

Posted by Son of a Wing on 02 April 2015 - 10:37 AM

I'd take dumpster fire Chara over Ericsson at this point...

 

If we're comparing Chara to Ericsson, then I think that speaks volumes in itself...




#2587897 Opinion: Petr Mrazek should be starting Game 1

Posted by Son of a Wing on 02 April 2015 - 07:45 AM

Right now this team doesn't have a number 1 goaltender as far as I am concerned. Mrazek is an unproven rookie and Howard needs to find his game. Monster is sadly hurt.

 

Well there's only one way to fix that!




#2585221 Ilya Kovalchuk announces retirement

Posted by Son of a Wing on 26 March 2015 - 12:31 PM

Seeing as he retired, wouldn't he have to be re-instated by the league, not just get the approval of the 29 other teams?

 

I'd check out this video to understand the details.




#2585209 Ilya Kovalchuk announces retirement

Posted by Son of a Wing on 26 March 2015 - 11:08 AM

Not playing for the Devils is not playing for the Devils. Whether sitting on his ass or working in some unrelated business or playing for a non-competing hockey team on the other side of the world makes no difference. None of it has any impact on the Devils. 

 

I didn't say anything to the contrary. lol

 

I'm just not going to pretend his retiring was anything but a legal maneuver.




#2585186 Do Maple Leaf fans deserve better?

Posted by Son of a Wing on 26 March 2015 - 08:25 AM

Remeber this from when I was a kid

https://m.youtube.co...h?v=SfLyQftk1GQ

 

It's actually based on a book "The Hockey Sweater" by Roch Carrier.

 

Famous book.  I received it as a gift when I was about 5.  Had it all my life.




#2584301 Positive feel good thread

Posted by Son of a Wing on 24 March 2015 - 11:11 AM

https://youtu.be/4m3ky6Mw28k




#2583297 Hakan Andersson:Hero of the Red Wings’ playoff streak

Posted by Son of a Wing on 20 March 2015 - 02:42 PM

 

 

The Seeker: Scout Hakan Andersson a hero of the Red Wings’ playoff streak

 

 

 

By:Michael Farber

At four o’clock on the Friday before the winter solstice, in the gathering gloom of the 58th parallel, Frölundaborgs Isstadion, an arena that holds 7,527 in a Swedish suburb of Göteborg, is filled with little more than 55 spectators and the unmistakable musk of moldering hockey equipment bags. Fifty-four of those people are hockey civilians, awaiting the start of a Junior B tournament game between Västerås and a team from Norway. The 55th is Håkan Andersson, the chief European scout of the Red Wings, who settles into a deserted section between the red line and one of the blue lines. At hand are the three things he finds indispensable in his line of work: a roster, a pen and a paper cup of steeping Earl Grey tea.

 

Five days earlier, on Sunday, Andersson had flown from his home in Stockholm to Venice. The following morning he had driven 75 miles northwest to Asiago, in the foothills of the Italian Alps, for the second-tier under-20 world championship, where he and 20 or so other NHL scouts saw three games contested by teams from lesser European hockey nations (Norway vs. Austria, Latvia vs. Slovenia and Belarus vs. Italy). Andersson returned home on Tuesday, took Wednesday and Thursday off, and now had driven five hours across the country to catch a modest four-team tournament. Andersson has been in the epiphany business for nearly 25 years; his roads to Damascus are the autoroutes and tarmacs of Europe. From October through early April every year, he typically will drive 20,000 miles in Sweden and take 65 flights in Europe, hopscotching the Continent. He attends some 200 games each season, distilling about 12,000 minutes of earnest if inelegant hockey to the handful of meaningful seconds in which an ineluctable truth about a player emerges, when a teenage boy reveals himself and, perhaps, foretells his future as a man.

 

There is an exacting toll to the scouting life—cold rinks, rank air, time away from family (Andersson and his wife, Veronica Pihl, have a nine-year-old son, Philip)—but if you have instincts and contacts and luck and a stable organization with a sustainable hockey philosophy, the payoff can be considerable. Andersson is solely responsible for finding Pavel Datsyuk, Johan Franzén, Niklas Kronwall, Gustav Nyquist and Jonathan Ericsson and had the lead role in identifying Henrik Zetterberg, the players who form the core of the current team that has extended Detroit’s playoff streak to 23 seasons. (The Red Wings, currently third in the Atlantic Division, are likely to reach their 24th consecutive postseason this spring.) Simply, Andersson does his job as well as anyone in sports. “Håkan is an unsung hero, an MVP for us,” general manager Ken Holland says. “His fingerprints are on a big part of our team.”

 

In the second game at the Göteborg tournament—host Frölunda plays Linköping—Andersson will focus on Jacob Larsson, a silky 17-year-old defenseman for the local team. Andersson, who serves on the Frölunda board of directors, knows Larsson well. So does the industry; last month, he was fifth among non–North American skaters in the predraft rankings of NHL Central Scouting. Andersson has scored big with a first-rounder before. In 2000 he helped convince Detroit to take the then undersized Kronwall (the defenseman has filled out to 6 feet and 194 pounds) with the 29th pick. But Andersson has made his reputation mucking in the murky corners, seeing something that other scouts don’t—or can’t. With the final pick of the ’02 draft he found Ericsson, a converted forward who plays on the Red Wings’ top defense pair with Kronwall. At one point Detroit was icing an all-Håkan line of Datsyuk (171st in 1998) at center and Zetterberg (210th in ’99) and the now retired Tomas Holmström (257th in ’94) on the wings.

 

The NHL is dotted with late-round gems, including Rangers goalie Henrik Lundqvist (picked in the seventh round in 2000), a Frölunda product who never played particularly well when Andersson saw him. If the scout has a stain on his résumé, it is his failure to uncover a No. 1 goaltender, but in recent years he has made a point of speaking with more goalie coaches to sharpen his knowledge of the position. Andersson remains relentlessly curious. In Göteborg he is less focused on Larsson than on a righthanded shooting winger from Västerås, Lukas Zetterberg (no relation to Henrik). Andersson has already seen the 17-year-old Zetterberg three times and is uncertain what to think.

 

“Remember, this is a Junior B game,” Andersson says during the second period. “When the game’s over, am I going to remember that [Zetterberg] stood out? He should dominate. He tries to finish his checks, but he’s not really intense. His skills are O.K. Can he do what he does here in the NHL?” Zetterberg chases the play into the corner, on the side of the ice where Andersson is seated. His view is obscured, but the scout clearly sees what comes next: An opposing defenseman whips the puck to a teammate in the neutral zone. “I don’t know what happened, but it can’t be good,” he says. “If you asked me right now, I would say to you it’s doubtful he would be on [my] list.”

 

Like many Swedes, Andersson speaks nearly flawless, colloquial English—right down to his appropriation of one of Holland’s verbal ticks, beginning answers with “I would say to you....” Andersson is 50. He is a professional optimist, one of the prerequisites for a job in which his work and that of his 12 fellow Red Wings amateur scouts is refined annually into seven draft choices. If Andersson likes a player, he might say, “I don’t mind him,” to dampen his natural enthusiasm. If he really likes a player, Andersson will bypass standard operating procedure—after games he usually refashions the sparse notes he jots on his roster into a detailed report that he enters into the team’s scouting database—and rank him on his list of European prospects, which will have 30 to 40 names at the draft in Florida next June.

 

“The odds say 1.5 in seven make it [to the NHL],” he says. “The criticism is I go too much for the home run. Late rounds, I’ll go for pure talent. If a guy makes it, [he’ll probably] be on the top two lines. My joke is Kenny can pick up the phone [any time] and find a fourth-line player or a seventh [defenseman]. So why not swing for the fences?”

In July 1989, Detroit scouting director Neil Smith left the Red Wings to become GM of the Rangers. When he departed for New York, Smith brought along Christer Rockström, the European scout who a month earlier had been behind Detroit’s selection of defenseman Nicklas Lidström in the third round of the team’s epic draft. Red Wings assistant GM Nick Polano asked Rockström if he could recommend a replacement.

 

Rockström said he had someone in mind.

 

“[Håkan] had hunger,” says Rockström, 57, who spent 21 years with the Rangers and now works for the Canadiens. “He would be willing to go the extra mile for a team. And I knew he had a good eye. He’d been a pretty good youth player. He knew about puckhandling, skating, edges. He could look at a skater and tell you if a guy was stiff-kneed or knock-kneed.”

 

Polano flew to Stockholm, where Rockström introduced him to Andersson, a center whose playing career had been cut short before his 18th birthday because of a torn meniscus in his left knee. Polano told Andersson of the job opening in Detroit and then left for a scouting trip to Finland and Russia. When he returned, Polano took Andersson on a traveling job interview around the Swedish Elite League. “I’m telling him what to look for: skating, playmaking ability, hard work, someone who’s not intimidated,” says Polano, now a pro scout for the Senators. “I’d quiz him about this guy or that guy we were watching. And he was bang on. The guy was a natural. After a few days I’m thinking, I’m going to hire a fishing guide.

 

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#2583242 3/19 GDT : Red Wings 1 at Panthers 3

Posted by Son of a Wing on 20 March 2015 - 10:32 AM

Dang, I didn't know he died.

RIP Paul Coffey

 

https://youtu.be/zcUZ25UalkE




#2583224 Connor McDavid

Posted by Son of a Wing on 20 March 2015 - 09:10 AM

Nastasiuk...