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#2532170 Red Wings & the Media

Posted by Son of a Wing on 15 July 2014 - 04:09 PM


One thing that's clear is that bloggers still aren't given access -- though that's not the aim of this article. We'll touch on that more in a few minutes. 


I think it's ironic that he criticizes how the Wings treat bloggers differently yet in this very piece he shows why they should be.


It's full out slander on John Hahn with absolutely zero actual evidence but "anonymous" quotes backing his own opinion of him.


A lot of this piece just rubs me the wrong way....

#2531239 Wings re-sign Cleary $1.5 mill + $1mill in game bonuses

Posted by Son of a Wing on 10 July 2014 - 05:25 PM

and back by popular demand....



I don't want to give the impression I made this...I didn't. Just sharing.

#2530824 Red Wings Target Mike Green

Posted by Son of a Wing on 09 July 2014 - 01:19 PM





Agreed. Real Wings fans would gladly give up "the streak" to be actual contenders in a couple years.


I love when people start differentiating between us real and us fake fans...  I'd never be able to tell us apart....

#2530788 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by Son of a Wing on 09 July 2014 - 12:02 PM

Sorry but Volchenkov is NOT better than Quincey.  Some peoples hatred is blinding...


He's approaching his mid-30s with significant injury history from making his living blocking shots and playing an abrasive style with ZERO offensive upside.


It's like he fills all our needs!  :confused:

#2530698 Red Wings Target Mike Green

Posted by Son of a Wing on 08 July 2014 - 07:00 PM

Ya, and babs wants an offensive rh defenseman, he's been quoted saying so several times. We played more defensively because we have no choice. Our dmen can't move the puck out. Like I said we had rafalski lidstrom Stuart and kronwall before. If we got a guy like green dekeyser could stay back and make up for his mistakes and green could make our transition game so much better and put up a lot of points in the process. We would have 2 great pp qb's and two very good offensive dmen, and I guarantee we instantly become a much much better team


Soooo you're agreeing with me? I can't tell.  I was arguing that Green would put up 55 points. aka be successful in our system.

#2530689 Red Wings Target Mike Green

Posted by Son of a Wing on 08 July 2014 - 06:31 PM

I'd say if mike green comes to Detroit he will never put up over 55 pts. Detroit is a two way team and won't want it's defensemen taking to much risk to get points. Look at Smith they moved him to forward to use his offensive skills and kronwall has had to be conservative since Stuart left


Kronwall hit 49 this past season.  I dont think 55 for Mike Green is out of the question considering his skillset.

#2530686 Red Wings Target Mike Green

Posted by Son of a Wing on 08 July 2014 - 06:27 PM

Agree completely, well said.

Except, I would easily trade a Jarnkrok-level prospect for Green. Say.. Frk? Athanasiou? Nestrasil?


Athanasiou has developed into one of our top prospects.  At least I think so....

#2530646 Red Wings Target Mike Green

Posted by Son of a Wing on 08 July 2014 - 04:01 PM

I've seen a lot of Tatar or jurco as a trade item. Why not Anderson? Washington needs centers and you could add franzen and or a pick to get the deal done. Anderson is already an extra piece in our lineup


Anderson has no value and Franzen isn't going anywhere.  He's a wing for life whether people like it or not.

#2530628 Red Wings Target Mike Green

Posted by Son of a Wing on 08 July 2014 - 02:30 PM

Def wouldn't want to give up Jurco. But if it had to be either Jurco or Tatar, I'd have to go with Jurco. Jurco is much more unproven than Tatar at this point.

How is Jurco a more valuable player?? Because he's bigger? He has a much smaller sample size of NHL games. Tatar has showed that he for sure belongs in this league. Jurco has looked solid but def hasn't been as impressive as Tatar.


Size, Skill, Aggressiveness, Defensive Awareness, Younger, Higher ceiling,  Doesn't vent to the press every time he has an issue with playing time/role/contract.

#2530624 Red Wings Target Mike Green

Posted by Son of a Wing on 08 July 2014 - 02:19 PM

:shocking: For an injury prone defenseman on the last year of his contract?? Umm...yeah, Tatar is very much untouchable in this scenario IMO. Now if we were looking to trade for Shea Weber that would be a different story. But for Mike Green, Kenny would be a fool to give up a player like Tatar who has been so good and still hasn't hit his full potential in this league.


And yet you're more than willing to give up Jurco (a more valuable player)....... :shocking:

Tatar is two years older...I sure hope he's outplayed him...

#2530617 Red Wings Target Mike Green

Posted by Son of a Wing on 08 July 2014 - 02:05 PM

I think it goes without saying that we can't give up Tatar, Nyquist or Mantha. But Jurco and picks seems reasonable considering how desperately we need a top D-man and a right handed shot. Get it done Kenny.


I don't think Tatar is anywhere close to being an untouchable...


He's a valuable player but not that valuable.

#2530614 Red Wings Target Mike Green

Posted by Son of a Wing on 08 July 2014 - 02:03 PM

Yea he has two 70+ point campaigns under his belt and a 31 goal season. Show me another defenseman that has those numbers that are available.


True but he hasn't cracked 40 points since the 2009 season because of recurring groin and concussion issues.


I'm all for a Green trade but let's not kid ourselves.  We shouldn't be selling the farm for another injury prone guy.


Tatar OR Pulkkinen plus Kindl and a conditional pick on resigning.  Similar to the package Dats-Deke proposed.

#2530596 Red Wings rookie camp roster revealed

Posted by Son of a Wing on 08 July 2014 - 12:35 PM

Does anyone know why Mike McKee is playing defense at the development camp? I thought they had decided to convert him to forward? Which in my opinion was the right call...


Because Marchenko is injured.



In his first season at Western Michigan University, McKee played in twenty-one games and registered one goal, while battling injuries and being moved around between the offense and defense.

McKee talked about playing both offense and defense, “I think I can play either position, I don’t really have a preference. It is wherever they need me to play, I will play.”

McKee is willing to play wherever the coach wants him to play, but he seems to like playing on the offensive side of the puck. Detroit has McKee as a F/D on their Development Camp roster, but with Alexey Marchenko not practicing the coaches have kept him exclusively on defense and he has been impressive.



#2530593 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by Son of a Wing on 08 July 2014 - 12:26 PM

DeGraa55, make the bet. I'm with marcaractac. There is very little chance for any of those players to miss anything close to what they missed last season. So that along with the young guys having another full season, we will be a much better team. Guaranteed!

Detroit # 1 Fan, I just don't see any harm in Jurco getting top line minutes down in Grand Rapids for another half season or so. Having a player like Jurco as a first call up is never a bad thing. Depth is key to success in the NHL.


Ya good luck with that.  Then he'd have to be accountable to the things he says. lol


I'm with ya in terms of those guys starting in the minors. Hell I'd get Griffins season tickets to see that squad. (If I lived there)


Jurco    Athanasiou    Mantha

Nastasiak Miele  Pulkkinen

Ferraro  Nosek   Callahan


Ouellet    Marchenko

Backman   Sproul

Nedomlel  Jensen




*sprinkle in the AHL vets


I also agree that Weiss is going to have a great year.

#2530449 What's best for Mantha?

Posted by Son of a Wing on 07 July 2014 - 03:20 PM

Just because I take hard line stances, doesn't mean I am combative with people...anyhow, I love when people disagree with me, but not when they just go "you're stupid" or "you don't know anything about hockey"


anyhow, I've been here for a VERY long time and contribute a TON of stuff, so I am not worried about someone disagreeing with me. If everyone agreed with each other this would be a pretty boring forum.


Here is your link on Stralman saying no to Detroit:




I'm not questioning your status/role on this site.  Many of us have been here just as long... That doesn't make our opinion any more or less valid. We're still just one voice.


My point was that you can't really be THAT surprised that people take issue/offense to some of the things you say.  Especially when you are so confident in your stance despite the fact that it can be quite outlandish to many.



Anyways....I think Mantha would benefit most with some minor-league seasoning. Same with AA. Between those two and Pulkkinen we've got a nice diverse trio of forwards to choose from.