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#2533575 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by Barrie on 02 August 2014 - 10:26 PM

I think we all know by now and it's obvious that Holland is a respected man around the league but a terrible decision maker and was made to look like a hero when he took over a star-studded team that everyone wanted to play for and there were no cap concerns in stopping players from coming here. Well those glory days are over and we now see how truly incompetent Holland really is as a GM. I'm just wondering how long the Illitch family will be fooled into thinking he is still a top GM.


Another person on this board that has no idea how the Salary Cap works.


I was around here when the 2005 lockout was going on. I was only one of a few posters who didn't want a salary cap, because I knew it meant we couldn't go out an sign guys like Hull, or get Chelios at the deadline anymore.


The majority of people here wanted a salary cap, and now they expect things to still be like it was in 2001-02. Can't have it both ways.

not sure if anyone posted that Gardiner re-signed with Toronto for $4.05M...he was a RFA defenseman.  So, this will probably be the starting point for DeKeyser.  He will more than likely get a similar contract.


How many people have looked at the Leafs http://capgeek.com/mapleleafs/ they're in trouble next year!

#2532756 Alfie wants to play

Posted by Barrie on 21 July 2014 - 11:33 PM

There isn't any room for Alfie. We have $8 Million Cap space left, but once Tatar and DeKeyser sign, we'll have 23 players on the team. Add to that next off season Smith, Nyquist, Jurco, and Andersson are RFA's, with only Cleary and Gus off the books after this year. We need Cap space and spots for our RFA's.


When you look at the Wings cap situation and who's an RFA, there was no room for an over priced UFA. Makes the Quincey 2 year deal look that much better, instead of being on the hook for 7 years and almost $6 Million with someone else.

#2532586 Babcock Interview on 105.1 this morning

Posted by Barrie on 19 July 2014 - 11:24 PM

Babs also said the Wings didn't hand out any bad contracts in free agency. Out on the lake when the Quincey deal happened?

Quincey isn't a bad contract, it's only for 2 years. Niskanen and Orpik, are bad contracts.

#2532255 Kane & Toews Sign Identical 8-year, $10.5M AAV Extensions

Posted by Barrie on 16 July 2014 - 01:03 PM

The downside of winning is thinking you have to keep guys instead of moving forward. Since there's a cap, and at that price, if I was Chicago I would have signed Toews, but let Kane become a UFA. Having $21 Million tied up in 2 players is insane! Looking at Chicago's cap situation, they better win this year, because a fire sale will happen next off season.


Those contracts have just increased and already over inflated UFA market. Drafting and developing your own players just became even more important!

#2531927 Holland Wiki page edited

Posted by Barrie on 13 July 2014 - 10:25 AM

Yea, but no one says what they'd do as GM. I bet if the average Red Wing fan became GM, he/she would make horrible trades and sign over priced UFA's. We'd be like the Leafs and our team would be build around guys like Kessel, Phaneuf, Lupul, Clarkson, van Reimsdyk and Bozak for the next 4 years plus. No thanks, I'll take Kenny, who's building the team with the draft, isn't signing any over priced UFA's, and actually knows how the cap works.


I understand signing Quincey and Cleary isn't "sexy", but they're only 1 and 2 year deals. That Niskanen deal is insane! Smith and Dekeyser are going to be better then him. Unless a team has drafted the player, I don't think any UFA should be signed for over 4 years. Do an online search and see how many horrible long term UFA signings there's been since 2005-06. The Wings don't have any bad ones over 3 years. The only potential bad one could be Weiss, but he's got a few years to still make the deal a good one.

#2531875 Confused on the direction of this team going forward

Posted by Barrie on 12 July 2014 - 09:18 PM

People here seem to forget there's a Salary Cap. I think it's obvious Holland is building through the draft, and won't overpay for UFA's. Teams that build through the draft win Championships, teams that sign over priced UFA's don't.


Hindsight is always 20/20 vision, after the 2009 playoffs if Holland signed Hossa over Franzen there would have been a riot! Hossa was a letdown in the playoffs, while Franzen had 12 goals, and 13 the year before. I think based on what both players make, and the points they've put up, Franzen vs. Hossa has been a wash.

#2530061 It's too bad about us having Weiss...

Posted by Barrie on 04 July 2014 - 11:00 PM

Just think what 50 pts from Weiss, and a healthy Zetterberg, Datsyuk, Franzen, and Helm would mean for us next year. A 1st round exit against Boston wasn't a bad thing, guys have a chance to heal.


Add to that, full seasons from Nyquist and Jurco.



#2529912 Players from within the organization

Posted by Barrie on 03 July 2014 - 11:15 PM

It's why we don't have to make trades, or over pay for a UFA, we know how to develop our own players. And there's more good young players on their way.

#2529564 Dont Jump Yet...

Posted by Barrie on 02 July 2014 - 04:36 PM

Just to add to the "our lack of ability to sign (any) big name free agents" comment. None of them were really big names, just over priced due to the lack of any actual big names becoming available. All the big names are signed long term!

#2529560 TANK IT! 2014-2015 Season

Posted by Barrie on 02 July 2014 - 04:30 PM

Wow, it's amazing to think just because we didn't sign an over priced UFA (the Niskanen deal is horrible), people think we have a bad team. We're good, and going to have a better season with guys healthy and our young players a year older. Boston, Montreal, Ottawa and Toronto, so far, are worse then last year, and Buffalo and Florida still suck!

#2529293 Can Z and Pav do anything to protest? (not that they would)

Posted by Barrie on 02 July 2014 - 05:51 AM

The Wings will be better. Our young talent is 1 year older and Dats and Z are healthy.


Niskanen won't be the same player in Washington. Quincey would get 40 pts playing in Pittsburgh, which is exactly why Ehrhoff signed there, to rack up the pts so he can sign another big contract... I don't think people realize how good Smith and Dekeyser are going to be.


The CBA has created an over inflated UFA Market. We didn't miss out on anything yesterday.

#2529055 Quincey re-signed by DET. 2 yr s $4.25 mill AAV

Posted by Barrie on 01 July 2014 - 07:38 PM

It's irrelevant how much he'd get on the open market. He is terrible, we'd be better off with Sproul or Ouellet.


It's only 2 years!

#2529044 Quincey re-signed by DET. 2 yr s $4.25 mill AAV

Posted by Barrie on 01 July 2014 - 07:32 PM

Guys, it's only a 2 year deal. If we signed someone as a FA, we'd have to pay more and for a longer term. For a defenceman who plays 20 minutes a night, it's a good contract. Quincey would have got more if he hit the open market.

#2518619 Wings will buy out Tootoo, not Franzen.

Posted by Barrie on 01 May 2014 - 08:22 AM

I don't get what people expect from Franzen. He's a 60 pt guy and has a $3.95 Million cap hit. He's one of the best bargains in the league! Watch him live, instead of on TV, and you'll appreciate what he brings to the team.


FYI, he's not going to throw his weight around, he's had a history of concussion problems.


I am still trying to figure out who we could get for Franzen's cap number that would be just as good if not better.  You know when Vanek signs with a team he is going to ask for $6 million a season at least.


If we are going to buy out Franzen, and put plugs into our team, I am sure that wouldn't go over well with the fanbase.


Right, the Wings will have to pay someone else $6 Million or more for 60 pts

#2517445 Was Legwand worth it?

Posted by Barrie on 26 April 2014 - 10:13 PM

Jarnkrok still wasn't going to make the team for a few years anyway, and by that time he would already be 24. Jurco and Sheahan are younger then him, and are 2 years ahead of him in their development. Jarnkrok is a late bloomer, and the Wings can't wait 4+ years for their draft picks to make the team. I'd make the Legwand trade again, and again.