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I'd get Gomez, trade Zetts straight up for him will save us $$$ in the long term.

Joey can finish out the year here but I wouldn't want him to be our backup come next season. He has played decent the last couple of games but his rebound control scares the living crap out of me. I believe playing in GR regularly has allowed him to find his groove unlike Ty. But will he be able to find it when he is sitting on the bench like Ty does for most of the season?

he was obviously trying to get out of the way, why doesn't miller deck his teammate for funneling tootoo towards miller. Anybody can pound on a dude's head while he is tied up, why not man to man drop the gloves with tootoo? Miller is a gigantic wuss, i would never want to see howard act this way. But it seems like all goalies do save for guys like Emery or Hextall.

Suggesting that a golatender square up and drop the gloves against a known fighter is ridiculous.  This is why your opinion on fighting is not taken seriously.

esteef

i'm not gonna hate on bertuzzi aside from all his unnecessary giveaways, but homer on the other hand...  there's a difference between "role player" and "one-dimensional" and homer is the latter.  i was the one that started the "what's up with Zetterberg" topic purely cause i haven't been able to watch hockey cause i'm not in North America where i can watch it.  but with Zetterberg, you expect him to produce around a point a game pace.  i've been waiting for homer to hang them up for years.  taking places of departed players like leino who can actually hack top 6 play, but was a terrible fit on the bottom 6.  tatar and nyquist should definitely be on this team next year.  i'm just glad guys like rafalski retired when they realized they couldn't produce at the level they should be at cause they're too beaten up from injuries.  homer will play out the rest of the year and he needs to retire in the offseason.  i really hope babcock plays "the best players" in the playoffs, and if that means that our 3rd line is tatar/nyquist/mursak to help the wings win the cup, then so be it.

I would take Homer over Leino everyday. Leino was lazy and talked crap about us after he left. He was terrible with us and is a little bit different version of Hudler. Which we need like we need more players with the defensive awareness of Jonathan Ericsson. Homer probably plays some of the hardest minutes of anyone in the league and not only survives, he thrives. If he isn't the best in the league at what he does anymore, he's #2. If Leino played 13 minutes a game I seriously doubt he'd match Homer's normal production. He is "one dimensional" but he has always been and although this should probably be his last year, he's fine by me. Dude's got 4 Cup rings for a reason.

I know this will almost certainly ruffle more than a few's feathers, but I can't say I'm super surprised with Zetterberg's play. Zetterberg, while owning a ton of hockey sense, never really stood out to me in a pure skill/self-sustaining point producer sense. Datsyuk does but not Z. He's a great two-way guy but I think the 40 goal, 90 point Z isn't what we should expect from him. I've never felt that if Datsyuk were gone, that Zetterberg could carry the team from an offensive standpoint. Also, he's the Brad Pitt of his country, has a Cup ring, Olympic Gold, Conn Smythe, a Celeb wife, and a lifetime contract. How much motivation does he have to have?

If that's our third line, some serious problems better have arose because that line is greener than a spring pasture. I'm all for playing kids, especially when the veterans float around like they're all on lifetime contracts...but JV teams are for the the Islanders and Oilers, not the Wings.

Stuart, Datsyuk and Zetterberg all playing much better in the 2nd quarter of the season. If it came down to Ericsson Smith and Kindl, I'd sit Ericsson, especially after that terrible penalty late in the game. Otherwise, the team is looking good and I have no real complaints besides our terrible PP.

2 bad our team is pretty damn soft..

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If you don't like it, learn to beat it.

That's what she said.  

Nothing in sports pisses me off more than seeing a trap or full court press. Anyone who runs one for a full game should be punched in the nuts.

I promise I'll be national news if I ever see Billy Donovan around town.

There's no problem in traps. They can be beat and everyone can use them. The problem was Flyers not trying to attack. It's the responsibility of the team who has the puck to keep the game going, try to score. Other team tries to prevent the scoring.

Other team doesn't have to try to take the puck back. Most important priority is to prevent scoring, not to take the puck back. So don't gimme that argument, ok?

Incorrect.

Fact.  Lidstrom eats beets.  Lidstrom...  Beats...  Every defenseman in the league.  MICHAEL!

And nothing of value was lost.

Because the solution to all of our scoring problems is to add defensively skilled PK forwards. Helm, Miller, Abdelkader, Emmerton, Cleary, Eaves, Filppula, Dats, and Z just can't cut it defensively.



2008-09 Jiri Hudler 26g-31a-57pt. His season last year wouldn't be considered a disappointment if not for his 2009 season. Had his 2008-09 season been similar to his previous two seasons, last year would have been "It's regular Hudler, no bigs." and people would be fine with it. Even though he'd probably have made a similar amount.






This is a relevant comparison; go ahead and look up how many forwards posted 70 points last year. About 30. The fact that Thomas is a goalie doesn't make the "he's not in the NHL, he's not an elite player" comparison invalid. The chances of Nyquist popping into the NHL and posting 70 points are so incredibly slim it's ridiculous. Is he better offensively than Franzen? Tavares? Nash? Briere? Heatley? Kovalchuk? These are some of the guys who played a full season and didn't reach the 70 point mark. It's a ridiculous suggestion, just like saying in 2005 that Thomas would win two Vezinas and a Smythe in the span of three years. Joey MacDonald has had a much better NHL career than Thomas had through 2005 - Thomas was 32 and had played 4 games at the start of the season. His career GAA and save pct. were comparable to MacDonald's current levels. MacDonald is 31, and has played 83 games. MacDonald only played one ECHL game, and has otherwise been AHL or NHL. Better than Thomas was at this age. Will he win the Vezina in four years?




I didn't say Nyquist will never hit 70 points. I said he wouldn't do it if he were inserted into the lineup right now. There are only four players on the current roster I think are/will be capable of that level over a full season, and one of them I think is too lazy and fragile to actually sustain that kind of play over a full season, so his chances of doing it are basically nil.

*Sigh*

Thomas is a goalie.  Hudler is not.

Thomas played a leading role in helping his team win a Stanley Cup.  Hudler, while he certainly played a positive role in helping his team win a Stanley Cup, was in more of a secondary situation.

So again, hi Apple, I'd like you to meet Orange.

And nowhere did I mention Nyquist about anything, so I'm not sure why you are responding to me about him.

What did you think of Hudler's play tonight?

post of the year.

Hudler could score 80+ points if scoring went back up to its levels from say 2009 (10% higher than last year) and he were given a top-six role and top-six ice time. Right now he gets third line ice time, playing occasionally on a top-two line with underachieving forwards. The only time his linemates have succeeded to any degree were when he was with Franzen and Filppula; they scored their only points of the season playing with Hudler.

Hi Apple.

As of 2005, nobody thought journeyman minor-league goalie Tim Thomas would be a starter in the NHL. Now he has two Vezinas, a Conn Smythe, and some are arguing him as a HHOF candidate and one of the best goalies ever.

I'd like you to meet Orange.