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#2217858 Trade between Florida and Vancouver

Posted by eva unit zero on 24 October 2011 - 09:13 AM

Not all teams understand loyalty. It's a luxury Wing's fans have grown accustomed to.

side note:
I like our line-up and I'll like it even more when Mursak is inserted into it. I guess all I'd look to trade for is a top 4 DMan and move Stuart to the 3rd pairing, but even then, Kindl and Ericsson have looked above average this season as a pairing and I don't think you break those two up. Maybe add a grittier 4th liner with some snarl. And again, Miller and Emmerton have both looked decent for their roles and Eaves is bound to come around.


Emmerton has been one of the better bottom-six centers in the league so far. His only issue has been faceoffs, and he usually looks much better; he was one of the best in that respect in the AHL, and although NHL centers are obviously better, his lack of success seems more due to a bad start on the draw than simply not being able to handle it. He's pretty much either cemented himself a role in the Wings' bottom six if he keeps it up, or he'll be traded in a significant deal for a team looking for a young, skilled PKer who could possibly become a decent second liner if he hits his projected offensive potential. If you include all 15 forwards currently on the roster, plus prospects, the Wings currently have at least 14 forwards (EDIT: who are 27 or younger) who could potentially be top-nine or better within three years. Many of them already are at that level. But less than half fit a bottom-six role; meaning a trade would definitely be necessary. Especially considering although nine are on the roster right now, one will have to be waived around the halfway mark. Plus Datsyuk, Zetterberg, and likely also Franzen and Cleary will still be around when the some or all of those guys are ready to break the roster.

I wouldn't say Vancouver flopped. They got to game 7 in the SCF. it was unfortunate they had a choker in 7uongo in net. A team that flopped would be our Wings between their last SC and the one previous to that.


You mean 7uon8o.

Although honestly, Thomas was just as responsible as 7uon8go was. Vancouver did really well for the first few games offensively, but Thomas just plain started shutting them down. Game three was a big time turning point. Especially after Rome's dirty hit, and Captain Goalie's inability to win the crushing blow. Vancouver was up 2-0 and he gives up 8? Not acceptable. The Canucks rode a largely "counterattack" offense. If the puck simply goes in when Boston gets a rush, that takes away a lot of counterattack chances. Thomas and the Bruins were helped a great deal by 7uongo's s***ty Game 3 performance. That swung the momentum all the way around, and in Game 4 it was another stinker, although it was only 4 goals. Vancouver couldn't recover, despite the fact they were tied in the series and 7uon8go picked up a shutout later in the series.


#2217801 10/22 GDT: Red Wings 1 at Capitals 7

Posted by eva unit zero on 23 October 2011 - 11:32 PM

Just chock it up to that and move along.

I really chock it up to an emotional response.


C-H-A-L-K. As in writing on a chalkboard.


#2217795 I went to school with Abdelkader. Nice guy.

Posted by eva unit zero on 23 October 2011 - 10:57 PM

I live like a minute away from Osgood. Saw him taking out the trash once.


I saw that too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl2xMXXOw4M


#2217674 Hudler?

Posted by eva unit zero on 23 October 2011 - 12:05 PM

I c wut u did thar.


Go to NHL.com and click on "stats" and select "individuals". Sort to forwards only. Then select page six. Look at the bottom. That is the minimum offensive production for a top-six scoring forward in that season. Hudler has cleared that mark in each of his past three seasons (10-11, 08-09, 07-08) and was only seven points shy in his rookie year (06-07) despite the fact that he played a mere 10:02 per game that year and he has not played more than 11:24 at ES or 13:39 total per game in ANY season.


Not a top-six forward my ass. He just as well as Bertuzzi per minute overall last year. Almost as well if you adjust ES and PP individually. And Bertuzzi played top-two lines all year, while Hudler played mostly on the bottom two. Bert is more physical, but no better defensively. He outperformed Holmstrom offensively, and I don't think anyone here would say Holmstrom does anything else better than Hudler except perhaps stand in front of the net. He was on the first line most of the year.That leaves the EuroTwins, Franzen, Flip, and Cleary. So unless you're saying the Wings are thin at forward, it's pretty clear Hudler is a top-six forward.


#2217136 WTF is Babs thinking?!?!

Posted by eva unit zero on 21 October 2011 - 11:51 PM

The only reason i can see the wings having hudler on the PP is to give him ample chance's to start talling points to showcase him for future trade.


How about because he's one of Detroit's most offensively capable players?


#2216609 Thoughts on Ericsson?

Posted by eva unit zero on 20 October 2011 - 11:49 PM

You're saying the same thing I'm saying. He's brought in players that have HELPED at times. Andersson and Bowman are responsible for players/development that have been the BACKBONE = Lidstrom, Fedorov, Konstantinov, Datsyuk, Zetterberg, etc, etc, etc.


Neither Andersson nor Bowman had any influence in the drafting of Fedorov, Lidstrom, or Konstantinov. Bowman was hired after all three were established players in the league, and Andersson was hired in 1990; while the trio was drafted in 1989.


Andersson's job is to scout talent and to recommend which European players to draft first. Given that Holland as a GM prefers to keep home-grown talent, and the team has a large number of European players, this will of course place a large fingerprint from Andersson as well. Zetterberg, Datsyuk, Franzen, Filppula, Hudler, Holmstrom, Kronwall, and Ericsson were all Andersson players.


But none of them are drafted or stay with the team unless Holland makes the call.


#2216590 Thoughts on Ericsson?

Posted by eva unit zero on 20 October 2011 - 09:13 PM

Ughhh. I don't think so. Hakan Andersson and Scotty Bowman are responsible for the Wings turnaround. Ken Holland is a pawn in the game.

For every Shanahan and Hull, there has been a Kruup and Hatcher out of Holland.

Holland is an ok GM in my opinion, but I wouldn't consider him anything else but o.k.

Importing the Russians and Swedes when that became vogue was Andersson's work. Getting the team to play defense was Bowman's work. All Holland had to do was bring in/ship out a few pieces when Bowman told him what he needed.


Holland brought in Brett Hull, not Bowman. Holland brought in Marian Hossa. Brian Rafalski, Brad Stuart. Derian Hatcher was considered a top defenseman when Holland signed him; calling that signing a mistake because he was injured is like saying the Wings shouldn't have drafted Jiri Fischer because of his then unknown heart condition.


#2216285 Hudler?

Posted by eva unit zero on 18 October 2011 - 11:24 PM

ORRRRRRRR ..... Let's speculate on this:

If Hudler has 40 points by the halfway mark, does he make the all-star team?


If he's on pace for 80 points? Absolutely. Only nine forwards hit that mark last season. Unless offense is WAY up this year, 40 points in the first half gets you on the All-Star team as a no-brainer.


#2216115 Thoughts on Ericsson?

Posted by eva unit zero on 18 October 2011 - 12:03 AM

I wouldn't be surprised to see Stuart gone after this season and Ericsson in the 2nd pairing with Kronwall. Just a hunch, but I think Stuart is gonna want money Detroit doesn't want to give him.

Lidstrom - White
Kronwall - Ericsson
Kindl - Smith

Janik/Commodore

That's what our 2012 Defense is going to look like.

Post Script - I'd really like to see the Red Wings take a run at Matt Carle this off-season instead of Stuart. I'm big on that guy.


Ericsson won't end up in that spot next season unless he shows this season he deserves it. Kindl looks like more of a top-four defenseman than Ericsson has shown he can be. But if neither Kindl nor Ericsson grab that spot and take it by force, we'll see a new face on the blueline in the top four - unless we see all of Lidstrom, Kronwall, and Stuart sign new deals.


Carle would be a nice replacement for Stuart. Coburn is also available. Although I think if Stuart is getting money hungry, I might look into trading him for Meszaros because Philly will (will they?) want to try and keep Carle and Coburn; Meszaros would be a solid replacement for Stuart that would cost less than the other two likely will.


#2216075 CBJ's Rough Start

Posted by eva unit zero on 17 October 2011 - 09:07 PM

Well, they made the playoffs several years back with a not much better roster than this one.

Of course, Mason basically carried them that year. Without him playing at that level, they're unable to overcome their other problems.


You mean the year Mason was 21st in save percentage while facing only 27 shots per game? The year Rick Nash scored 40 goals?


Mason was not the one carrying the team. He simply got the hype because he had some strong games behind a defense full of good solid stay at home guys like Mike Commodore. It was Nash's team.


#2215883 Kindl

Posted by eva unit zero on 17 October 2011 - 08:10 AM

If the Wings are struggling to put up points, they won't want to go with Commie, they'll opt for the better offensive defensman in Smith.


Because putting a rookie and defensive liability will always help you win games over a veteran stay-at-home defenseman.


What matters when winning games is goal differential, not goals scored. Preventing one is just as important as scoring one. Commodore wins that battle over Smith. Babcock thinks so too; otherwise Smith would have been on the roster to begin the season.


#2215882 WTF is Babs thinking?!?!

Posted by eva unit zero on 17 October 2011 - 08:06 AM

Ericsson needs to develop into a PP pointman. He's got a hard shot.


Ericsson needs to learn how to use his shot in a real game, and how to make an accurate pass at game speed.


He has the physical tools right now to be a pretty good point man if he can learn how to put it together; he has not been able to do so in several years of development.


At his age, you don't "develop" anymore. Either he'll learn or he won't.


#2215847 Season-Long Lines Thread

Posted by eva unit zero on 16 October 2011 - 11:05 PM

Who's going to play center on the other lines?


It would roll out like so:

Z/Dats/Flip

Franzen/Hudler/Cleary
Abdelkader/Helm/Bertuzzi
Holmstrom/Emmerton/Eaves


#2215166 How Do You Feel About The Southeast?

Posted by eva unit zero on 14 October 2011 - 04:50 PM

I don't really buy the travel argument. Everything they have is first class and 5 star all the way, plus they take naps before the games. I think after a year or two, they're used to the travel. Also I'm sure the Wings when they're playing at the Joe don't get to bed until 3am or later after they talk to the press, have a post game meal, drive back to the 'burbs, and eventually finally wind down after the game.

I know a lot of the Eastern Teams travel by bus. Personally I'd find a plane to be more comfortable. When traveling by a bus you can get caught in traffic and road construction. There's no traffic jams or road work in the skies.

I think the travel thing is more of an issue with the team than players. Being in the East the Wings can save money on travel, that's what the team wants.


It's about the East/West travel.

Being in the East means you don't have to play away games at 10:30pm, while the opposing team is playing their away games at 4:30pm.

HUGE difference there.

Solution: move Winnipeg to the Northwest, Minnesota to the Central, Detroit to the Northeast, Pittsburgh to the Southeast, and Boston or Buffalo to the Atlantic.



#2215128 Hudler?

Posted by eva unit zero on 14 October 2011 - 01:30 PM

Arguably the best playoff performer the last 3 years, who is a big body that can throw the occasional big hit and plays pretty damn good defensively has a lot more going for him in contract talks than a one dimensional streaky scorer.


Franzen looked like s*** in last year's playoffs aside from a couple good shifts. And then he got hurt, and people started giving him the ankle excuse as to why he wasn't doing well, even though he was skating about as well as he normally did.

Zetterberg and Datsyuk were both better in 2010. Datsyuk was FAR better last year. Z was hurt last year but much better when he did play. And Z was better in 09. And 08, for that matter. Franzen did outscore Dats in the last three years, but both Dats and Lidstrom outplayed him.

And before you say "Well, that's three top players..." let's look at the last three playoffs both Huds and Franzen played in. Franzen had 44 points in 47 games playing with Datsyuk and/or Zetterberg. Hudler had 29 points in 55 games playing with Filppula, Draper, or Helm.

Over 82 games, those numbers work out to 77 for Franzen and 43 for Hudler. Now we take away the requisite 20 that was brought up earlier from Franzen and get 57. That's not a huge difference, given ice time differences between the two. Were it Hudler on Dats or Z's line, would he be the "clutch playoff performer" instead of Franzen?