Leino is older and significantly more expensive. The only advantages he has are that he just signed a contract, and that he's slightly larger. He has already shown difficulty with Detroit's system, and does not work nearly as hard as Hudler. He doesn't use his advantage in size to play a more physical game; if anything Hudler is the more physical player.
But with his size advantage, Buffalo would want Hudler to provide more offense. Meaning that it would be a downgrade in current player quality, for an older, more expensive player. No thanks.
Hudler isn't a tradeable asset regardless of how he's playing. 90 points or 10 points.
Because what the team gets back for him if he can be traded for something good will never match up to what he is bringing the team. If he's playing poorly, he's not going to bring back anything of value at all; perhaps just a minor leaguer the team would waive and then lose via UFA (think Tollefson) or something.
Filppula is more likely to be traded, and even then in no case is Flip going to be shopped unless he looks like he is going to lose his position in the top six to Helm. It's not likely he'll be traded unless the Wings get a great return on the deal.
I'm sorry, but didn't Moore fight Cooke in that game?
Don't you know? It wasn't enough. He was required to man up and fight Bertuzzi, late in the game after it was well out of hand, when Bertuzzi was stalking him around the ice trying to get him to fight. When Moore refused, Bertuzzi had every right to puch him in the back of the head and follow that up by driving him face-first into the ice, causing severe injuries that would end his career.
I wonder this with regards to that incident but... why don't people defend McSorley for doing essentially the same thing, but less? He chased Brashear around the ice looking for a fight. He tried to tap him with his stick on the shoulder, and bounced it off his helmet. Brashear dropped to the ice.
McSorley was effectively given a lifetime ban by the NHL, and also was sentenced to 18 months probation for assault.
Can someone, someone who loves enforcers, tell me which incident was more worthy of a lifetime ban and an assault charge? Why?
He's in denial of the fact that Hudler is going to be playing on Datsyuk's line this season, after all of that bitching (and likely monitor screaming) he did at me about constantly suggesting that H/D/C be reunited.
Brunnstrom has scored 19 goals and 40 points in 99 NHL games. Hudler scored 10 goals and 37 points in 73 games last season; basically 25% more in terms of points. Even if you take away Hudler's time with Datsyuk (4g-10a-14pt in 11gp) he would have 6g-17a-23pt in 62gp, a pace which would give him 10-27-37 in 99 games instead of 73.
In other words, a "horrible" season by Hudler's standards, minus the highly prolific 11 game stretch with Datsyuk, can be considered equivalent offensively with the best Brunnstrom has ever performed.
Sounds like Bruno could replace Hudler at something. But it's not scoring.
no, but it is prevalent in all nhl games whereas guy's careers being ended by head hits is limited to maybe 1 or 2 players a decade. The amount of diving probably outnumbers the amount of head hits about 1,000 to 1
Guys who have played the majority of their career after 1990, but ended early due to concussions largely due to head hits:
Keith Primeau. Eric Lindros. Derek Boogaard. Mike Richter. Geoff Courtnall. Dave Scatchard. Matthew Barnaby. Scott Stevens. Adam Deadmarsh. Marc Savard? Sidney Crosby?
I guess that does work out to 1 or 2 per decade. But only if you have had a few concussions.
i agree, but diving penalties aren't called in the nhl, especially not on plays like this and on top of that the nhl does not review dives.
This play didn't warrant a diving penalty. Leblanc was skating full on and elbowed him in the head from the blind side. If Leblanc had not stuck his elbow out and tried to get his head, and Semin still fell like that, then call the dive. But that's not what happened.
I see an elbow to the head. Semin had just turned with the puck, and the puck slipped off his stick. He had looked back to pick it up, and was leaning back. Leblanc came flying in and nailed him with an elbow to the head. Semin was practically at a standstill due to losing the puck and trying to regain it, so he was a sitting duck. A guy who dives taking a headshot is not the same thing as a dive.
WRONG AGAIN. English is our national language here in America. Official or Unofficial makes no difference. We speak English. Therefore, the announcers pronounce the names on the back of the sweaters in English. And yes, Frenchies get a pass because they started the fricking sport. So Richard is Rih-shard and Messier is Mess-ee-ay. But that's as far as it goes.
There is no national language. Also, various evidence has shown that hockey was started in England by the English, in Canada by British troops, and in Scandinavia. Do you know what that means? It's likely that different areas had different versions of a stick and ball game that over time morphed into one we call "hockey".
And it's awfully bigoted of you to say "Well, we'll pronounce it properly for French Canadians, but not for Europeans." But I suppose that would put you in line with guys like Don Cherry, who are for some reason massively popular despite (because of?) their bigoted attitudes.
To be fair, he's pretty spot on about the optimism thing. Myself and others who supported Osgood, or Hudler. Ripped to shreds. Filppula supporters. Bashed until he became a vital part of the team. Anyone who liked Kronwall and thought his contract was a good deal was called a blind homer, or worse. A great number of the highly prolific posters, as well as a majority of the casual posters, are very pessimistic about the team. It's almost like it's LetsGoLions or LetsGoSpartans; a site where fans should be expecting their team to crush their hopes and dreams. Not LGW, where fans have every reason to believe in their team's chances for victory.
I love how so many people on here have the "remove Hudler from the lineup simply for the sake of removing him" concept stuck in their head. Is Nyquist better than Hudler right now? Probably not. Will he be in three years? Maybe. But having a guy like Nyquist who can be sent to the minors now, and benefit from playing top-line time with guys like Tatar who he will likely play with for years to come, instead of spending quality time in the press box with some two-man combination of Drew Miller, Justin Abdelkader, Fabian Brunnstrom, Jan Mursak, Cory Emmerton, Patrick Eaves, Mike Commodore, Jakub Kindl, and Jonathan Ericsson. There's no point to having Nyquist on the team this year unless Hudler plays out the beginning of last season all over again. And even then, the Wings are still more than loaded up front with Z, Dats, Franzen, Flip, Cleary, Bert, Homer all being strong offensive players, as well as Bruno and Emmerton available to take Hudler's ice time if offense is really an issue.
Zetterberg is Zetterberg. Nyquist is Nyquist.
We are not in Sweden. We are in America. And in America, we speak English.
There is no official language in the USA. We speak English, Spanish, French, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, German, Portuguese, Greek, Italian, Gaelic, and every other language known to man. Yes, English is dominant, but not to the exclusion of all others.
As for the names; they do not change because they are being pronounced by someone in their non-native tongue. The person might not say it correctly, or be able to say it or used to saying it correctly; but it doesn't make it correct. For example, regarding the name Sergei, "SIR-gei" is not correct. "SAYER-***" is correct. Generally, anyway. There are always exceptions. Andrea is a common name in the USA which has multiple pronunciations with the same spelling. Or the name Mikael; "MICK-ull" or "Mick-A-ull" with the same spelling.
Go tell Dustin Byfuglien that his name is not pronounced "BUFF-lin", but instead is pronounced "By-FUG-ly-enn" because "We are in America. And in America, we speak English. Period." See what he says to that.