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UpperCorner14

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In Topic: Top 10 Red Wings of the Last 15 years?

18 July 2008 - 10:06 AM

QUOTE (union drone @ July 16, 2008 - 11:39PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
In my humble opinion, Konstantinov and Sheppard don't even get a sniff of this top ten list.

As for Shep... He was probably the most one-dimensional top six forward the Wings have had in the last 15 years. He had a great shot and nothing else. His skating ability probably rivals some of the NHL's worst. He had almost no playmaking ability. He was irrelevant defensively. He was not gritty or physical at all. He didn't bring any intangibles. Oh, yeah, but he scored 50 goals in a high scoring era with one of either of two amazing set up men at his side (either Feds or Yzerman, depending on which season). Was he instrumental in winning a cup? Hell, no.

As for Vladdy... I love the guy. Maybe he gets a sentimental (but perhaps undeserved) #10 for what might have been, but there were others who played more and were at least equally instrumental in the Wings' success. If he had played on more than one cup team, then you have an argument. I have a hard time, however, ranking him above guys that were good players for more seasons and were in key roles on multiple cup teams.


You just described Luc Robitaille

In Topic: Player vs. Player

14 July 2008 - 12:42 PM

QUOTE (union drone @ July 14, 2008 - 01:30PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Brian Leetch.

Joe Louis Arena or Olympia?


Never attended a game there, but Olympia just for its history.

Doug Gilmour vs. Jeremy Roenick

In Topic: Player vs. Player

14 July 2008 - 12:20 PM

QUOTE (Wings_Dynasty @ July 14, 2008 - 12:53PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Kaberle.

Grant Fuhr vs. John Vanbiesbrook.


Beezer.

Phil Housley vs. Brian Leetch

In Topic: Russian League poised to offer Malkin $12.5 mill/yr

20 June 2008 - 12:02 PM

QUOTE (Wings_Dynasty @ June 20, 2008 - 12:51PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That all depends. Everyone from European and Asian countries all want to come to the NHL to play hockey because the best players are there and North America is the most prosperous place on the planet. IF the RHL was the premiere league (with world media coverage, the best players (most of whom are in the NHL today), and the best hockey being played) that is where I would want to be as a hockey player. As an American, of course I would want to be in America, but if my dream was to be one of the best players in the world I would want to be in the best league, wherever it was.

As for the "he speaks Russian" argument. If he can't learn English than he is lazy. Pavel learned English, the Russian 5 spoke English (except for Kozzy) and all of the other Euros learned English (Lidstrom speaks it better than I do). I could learn Russian, all I would need is the Rosetta Stone program and maybe a tutor to learn specific words, but I think my teammates would help a lot.

But the question is does he want to be a hockey player (and go to the top tiers of his profession) or does he want to be rich in his homeland? It all depends on his personality and where he wants his life to go.



I agree that if his only motivation is to play with the best (which could easliy be argued that that should be the motivation you need), then the NHL is the way to go. I don't think its that simple though. The language issue is just one of many factors that would weigh into a decision like this - I'm not saying that is a primary reason to go. The kid is 21 and is being offered stupid amounts of money to be back in the comforts of home with friend, family, etc. The level of talent is still very good and I wouldn't blame him one bit if he goes. With that said I hope he does not. Its a pretty nice problem that he has - be an elite player in the best league in the world, or be the elite player and live like a king in his homeland.

In Topic: Russian League poised to offer Malkin $12.5 mill/yr

20 June 2008 - 11:38 AM

QUOTE (Wings_Dynasty @ June 20, 2008 - 12:30PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If you'd rather be rich than in teh best league in the world, then go.


Easier said than done. Imagine the reverse scenario. Lets say that Russia has the best hockey players in the world, but you're from the US, you speak English, and a US team just offered you a TON of money to come home and play. No right or wrong answer, but what would you do?