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#2685956 Jimmy Howard new 2016-17 mask

Posted by chaps80 on 16 September 2016 - 08:34 PM

That "Yzerman" artwork is a joke. Come on Jimmy, get that s*** fixed before you wear it on the ice in warmups.




#2685781 Whose autograph is this? Can someone help me?

Posted by LeftWinger on 11 September 2016 - 11:23 AM

Rick, is that you? You sure you don't want to call a friend of yours in and verify the autograph? :lol:




#2685591 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by LeftWinger on 06 September 2016 - 02:54 PM

Agreed. I wasn't talking about that proposal, I was talking about certain other proposals including 5-7 assets going out and 1-2 coming back... If Nyquist, D prospect(s), pick(s) got us Trouba I'd do it all day. I wouldn't make that same trade for Fowler though...

 

I agree, if that would work, that would be great for Trouba, but I believe, once he gets shopped around, that another team will offer something better than Nyquist for Trouba. I'd overpay for both, just to beat out the other teams...

 

Mantha, XO (or Sproul) 1st, 3rd for Trouba is overpayment, but not many other teams would want to match that. It could happen, but I think Winnipeg would jump at that deal.

 

We would miss Mantha, but getting Trouba in return makes up for that because he is near the same age, yet has a lot of NHL experience.  Another reason we wouldn't miss XO or Sproul.  They need a 3rd pairing guy with a relatively small salary, so XO or Sproul would help them.  The 1st and 3rd I don't think we'd miss at all.  I fully believe we are again a playoff team (especially if we acquired Trouba, even more so if we also added Fowler) so that 1st, once again, would be around #17-#24 I'm thinking.  The 3rd is the 3rd.  We wouldn't miss those, I believe, because we have players now that we have no room for, that are ready, and soon we'll have even more ready.  I think one year of not having a 1st wouldn't kill this team's reload.  Again, I firmly believe with Vanek and Nielsen and Larkin getting more ice time, Z getting less, this team will finish much higher in the standings. Z will last longer with less icetime too.

 

Nyquist, Smith, conditional pick for Fowler. Again, overpayment? Maybe, but we'd have to open up another spot on D for both Trouba and Fowler, plus open up cap space to sign Trouba.  Nyquist could be replaced with AA while Pulk and Jurco are out.  If I wanted to collect some more later round picks, I could try to shop one of/or both Pulk and Jurco to get a couple more 4th-7th rounders. 

 

Holland created this jam up front to shop for a d-man, he knows he'll have to move a few assets sooner or later so he doesn't have to waive anyone.  I'm sure he felt that prices weren't going to be so high, but IMO, losing Mantha, Smith, XO (or Sproul,) Nyquist and the picks is not gutting the roster if you are getting back Trouba and Fowler, PLUS opening a spot for AA to be on the team.

 

It would take some doing to work it out under the cap, but it could work and we'd be a better team.  I only wish it would happen, because we have no idea what Holland would offer, or what Winnipeg and Anaheim would ask for.  I'd balk on trading AA for either of them. Larkin is a no trade, as is Mrazek and DD. ANd with the history of all GM's trying to rape Holland, I am sure one of those 4 names would be asked for from both teams, so we'll probably be out of luck in acquiring either of them...

 

I'd trade anyone from the team, except Larkin, DD, Mrazek and AA.


BTW, did y'all know that Sproul has not re-signed yet? He is an RFA and is probably holding out for some similar guarantees that Trouba wants.  Like guaranteed to make the club, and get some playing time or sign and trade him to a team that will play him.

 

Did he or the team got file arbitration does anyone know?




#2685567 Datsyuk Announcement to Officially Leave NHL

Posted by toby91_ca on 06 September 2016 - 10:26 AM

I've said it before, but will express again, his leaving has left a very bad taste in my mouth.  While I think the team will likely be better without him now, that's not the point.  He could have put the team in a very bad position and be much worse off without him...on hook with cap hit.  That's also not the point.

 

I'm all for a player deciding they don't want to play anymore, or retire due to injury, etc.  However, I don't think a player should decide to retire with time left on their contract (if they've signed past 35)...unless injured.  The thing is, if you are over 35 and sign a 2-3 year deal, at that point in your life, you're not going to all of a sudden decide that you don't want to play anymore.  This is why the cap hit stays if a player retires early (if signing past 35).  There is the thought that a player might not play out the contract, so if you sign something for 3 years, you better be committed to fulfilling the contract (i.e. not signing for 10 years to keep cap hit low and retiring early). 

 

So, even if he simply retired, I'd still have a bad taste in my mouth.  Magnifying that is that he hasn't retired from hockey, he simply didn't want to play in the NHL anymore and is now playing in another league.  I now all the family reasons, etc., but that stuff doesn't all of a sudden pop up and you can easily commit another 6-8 months away anyway.

 

I couldn't care less how well he plays in Russia for a couple reasons (1) I'm not pissed about missing him playing for the Wings, it's the principle and (2) regardless of the first reason, the KHL is so different than the NHL it is pointless to even look at stats and consider how that could translate.

 

I don't want to have  bad taste, because I really liked the guy as a player and a person, but I can't help it.




#2685353 2016 World Cup of Hockey thread

Posted by krsmith17 on 02 September 2016 - 04:50 AM

I'm rooting for the young guns.


#2685515 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by Buppy on 04 September 2016 - 11:02 PM

Fowler played top pair minutes on a team that was better than Detroit. Pretty hard to find a legitimate argument that he's only a second pair guy and will never be more at 24 years old. AA had a good half season or so for a rookie, all projections have him as a second line guy, if not a third liner.

I don't disagree that Fowler can be considered a top-pair D (low-end at least), but the argument is that he does play on a good team. Very deep defense that rolls 3 solid pairs pretty evenly. In Detroit, where he might bear the brunt of the toughest defensive assignments, he might be exposed. His advanced stats are near the bottom for the Ducks. And even though he's young, after 6 full years it's hard to imagine he'll get any better.

 

And you keep responding to comments about AA as if it's a straight "AA for Fowler/Trouba" proposal. I'd think even the biggest AA fans would do that, if they were convinced it was the only option. But people don't want to add AA to a package that already includes Nyquist/Tatar. And they shouldn't. A prime-aged, proven top-6 winger plus a top prospect is a star-level package. Fowler and Trouba are not stars. Nyquist and Tatar are as close to star-status as Fowler and Trouba. There's no reason we should, or should have to, include any of our top-prospects.

 

I'll say again, if Murray thinks so little of Nyquist/Tatar that we'd have to add AA (or Mantha/Svech) rather than a second-tier prospect/pick, then he probably wouldn't be interested in the trade at all. They aren't rebuilding. Quantity is not going to trump quality. And unless Winnipeg is planning a flurry of trades this year, they aren't going to want two more young forwards to try to somehow protect, much less weaken an already weak defense to do it.




#2685068 Datsyuk Announcement to Officially Leave NHL

Posted by GoalieManPat on 25 August 2016 - 05:43 PM

Datsyuk is going to light it up this season. 

 

Especially if every goalie just kinda falls over before he shoots like this guy did




#2684691 Patrick Roy steps down as Head Coach and VP of Hockey Operations

Posted by GoalieManPat on 11 August 2016 - 07:46 PM

I'm elated at the Avs failing under Joe Sakic though. That clown is the most overrated player in the history of the NHL.

 

Are you kidding? Sakic was basically Steve Yzermans hockey doppelganger. Saying Sakic is overrated is saying Yzerman was. The fact that Brett Hull physically grabbed and sat Avery down and told him hes not allowed to talk to "Mr Sakic" shows the level of respect that guy earned. Through the whole rivalry Sakic was the only guy you couldnt hate. Pure class. 

 

As for Roy leaving 

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#2684183 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by Dabura on 29 July 2016 - 06:52 AM

http://www.mlive.com..._to_acquir.html

 

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#2683069 Pulkkinen re-signs with a 1 year deal

Posted by kickazz on 13 July 2016 - 11:27 AM

He could be good deadline trade bait if needed. Not re-signing a recent prospect for cheap would have been dumb. Should never let your picks walk away unless you can get something in return. 




#2683120 Tyler Bertuzzi goal.. Savage lol

Posted by joesuffP on 13 July 2016 - 11:38 PM

Getting a penalty for somebody dropping their stick on a 'slash' is the most infuriating thing in hockey right now


#2683040 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by kickazz on 12 July 2016 - 10:48 PM

Honestly don't mind keeping him one more year. Mrazek still isn't fully consistent. Howard will come in handy if there's any hiccup in Mrazek's play. He certainly did at the end of last season. 

 

This year I'd prefer them just stick with one goalie though rather than try to rotate things. Only use Howard is Mrazek is struggling and needs relief. 




#2682341 Steve Ott signs 1 year, $800k deal with Detroit

Posted by Bring Back The Bruise Bros on 05 July 2016 - 10:17 PM

I've had a love/hate relationship with Ott, but I'm looking forward to the physical element that he'll bring to the fourth line. It's too early to tell what his role will be on the team, but I think he's capable of playing regular fourth line minutes. With Miller returning from injury and Pulkkinen out to start the season, it seems like he'll see some playing time. I'm excited about this.




#2681929 Darren Helm re-signed: 5 years, $3.85m AAV

Posted by Dabura on 02 July 2016 - 11:41 AM

The more I think about this deal, the more I hate it.




#2680829 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by Datsyukian-Deke on 01 July 2016 - 08:05 AM

I think if we are getting Nielsen, we have to get Okposo too. Just Nielsen by itself leaves us a worse team than we were last year and we BARELY made the playoffs. If it is just Nielsen, I'd rather stand pat and do a mini rebuild.