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hockeysattva

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Offline Last Active Apr 23 2015 08:11 PM
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In Topic: Knuckles vs Numbers - The death of the enforcer

23 April 2015 - 08:11 PM

 "advanced guys are kicking the enforcers ass right now" yeah because important stuff like intangibles, chemistry and grit can be measured so well ?! What a bunch of arrogant, self entitled excel geniuses. Oc course the only time ESPN is talking about hockey, is to push their anti-fighting stance.

 

Guess what, Orr may not be the most skilled player ever but tha t guy is giving his all every time he is on the ice, wheter it's fightning, body checking or creating energy to fire his team up. Oh yeah if you don't have the puck the other team is going to have the puck ?! Really, that's advanced "metrics" ? God forbid someone would check the guy who has the puck into the boards and THEN get the puck plus make the team aware of him being on the ice but no that can't be measured so it's obviously not good.

 

Don't get me wrong, I respect the mathematical talent those advanced stat guys are having but when it comes down to actually hockey knowledge and understanding what's really important they're trapped into excel sheets and calculators...if only they would watch the games. Brian Burke said it best: show the stat that makes our team a winner and gives us the edge right now, we're paying cash show it to me....sursprisingly nobody did because hockey is a fast paced, momentum shifting, physical and hard to measure game. Sadly it will take a bit longer till the advanced geniuses are getting that.

 

1 hardworking Orr, McGrattn, Thornton... > advanced mathematics geniuses

 

McGrattan *laughs* I think it's a joke and I'll leave it at that - doesn't need much words to sum it up :-) :clap:

Orr "you can't measure character and the confidence an enforcer is bringing to his team" :bounce:

 

How about showing those guys some much deserved respect instead of sitting infront of your MBP otherwise (to quote Nichelson) how about you go on the ice with your laptop and do THEIR job?! I'm sure Prust, McLaren, Bourdelaux will be wowed by all that numbers...BOOM first punch knockout :)

Statistics are exactly what they are, they provide a compelling argument, and if you don't like it you should come up with a better explanation, what you've done is make an ad hominem attack. 

 

Doesn't make you look real good.

 

Now, I'd like to see the stats they are using . I will bet that the statistics can prove some of the intangibles. Like looking at the success of shifts after winning fights, etc. I bet there is proof to some of the "momentum."


In Topic: Recommend me a game from the glory days

20 April 2015 - 06:43 PM

I highly recommend the boxed set, http://www.ebay.com/...=item20f9e7298bdon't buy the one that is posted, its way overpriced, but its great games in great quality.

 

It's funny, because I'd love to just watch some of the old games, without the teaser, and relive some of the fun.

Detroits series against the Capitals was great. I remember Maltby blocked five or six shots in one shift. Or, another Maltby, but Maltby and Draper having a great duo, I think Maltby scored tow short handed goals in one penalty once.

 

There were many great games that 2002-3 season. Still the all time greatest team IMO. But, I might enjoy watching the Wings v. Kings game from the year before... I remember Chelios and Luc fought (if you can call it that) and Luc's kids crying... I'd probably never watch any of those 95 Wings games again though, not if it had that stupid Fox puck tracker...

 

Rookie season Datsyuk was a real treat, other teams hadn't figure out how dangerous he was yet.