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#2550876 Alfie not playing this season

Posted by Playmaker on 21 November 2014 - 09:31 PM

As much as I will miss the leadership in the locker room, his absence is giving the kids a chance to play.  The kids are part of the reason why I enjoy watching the Wings this season.  The kids are our future, and so far the future is very bright.

The future's so bright, I gotta wear shades....




#2546409 What happened to Calle Jarnkrok?

Posted by e_prime on 03 November 2014 - 01:21 PM

Jarnkrok is probably going to be just fine. 

In the same way that Jurco will be fine... Sheahan will be fine... Nestrasil will be fine...

Not every player is Nyquist and gets it going and keeps it going.  Hence, Jarnkrok's season start.

 

He was traded away from the Wings and he got ice-time, and he said, "Hey, I'm gonna make the best of this and show them what they traded away."  ...and LGW (not all of you) all went: "There's Holland.f****** up again. Trading away our best prospect for a worthless center isn't worth a s*** and that we won't even re-sign."

 

This year started and he's off to a slow start. Sophomore slump? Flash in the pan?

Remains to be seen.

I personally haven't watched enough of him to make a judgement. TBH, I don't really care.

I wish him all the luck in his career and pray that Holland doesn't have to re-acquire him a few years down the road for a first-round pick.




#2537570 Babcock " I dont think it will be my final year here"

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 29 September 2014 - 12:20 PM

Another one of these ridiculous threads.... everytime Babcock farts there seems to be more speculation that he is not happy (even though he says he is) and he is going somewhere (probably Toronto because they are already planning their Stanley Cup Parade).

 

The other hilarious thing is that folks believe that replacing a battle tested and proven winner/veteran/warrior/genius (Mr. B-cock) with a green eared but eager rookie (Blashill) is somehow going to ward off massive debilitating injuries to key players, improve goalie consistency, prevent hall of fame legends from ever retiring, strengthen backup goalie's groinal area, add testoterone back into the balls of mules AND be that which attracts every key free agent to want to sign up for all of this (deep breath) will undoubtedly improve things.

 

Babcock + Holland + Health + Experience = Success wait and see

 

I agree with you on the Blashill versus Babcock point.  Blashill may very well succeed in the NHL but it's a grass is always greener situation .

 

As for Babcock's true feelings about the team and his job, who knows.  I don't expect him to comment publicly if he were unhappy or considering other opportunities.  There is the chance he may want to challenge himself with a new team.  And something like Toronto would definitely be a challenge but also an opportunity for greatness on his part if he turns that team around. 

 

Personnel changes rarely happens in this order but I think Holland is the one running out of ideas, not Babcock.  Plus there isn't really a coach I'd pick over him. 




#2537567 Babcock " I dont think it will be my final year here"

Posted by The Secret on 29 September 2014 - 11:37 AM

Another one of these ridiculous threads.... everytime Babcock farts there seems to be more speculation that he is not happy (even though he says he is) and he is going somewhere (probably Toronto because they are already planning their Stanley Cup Parade).

 

The other hilarious thing is that folks believe that replacing a battle tested and proven winner/veteran/warrior/genius (Mr. B-cock) with a green eared but eager rookie (Blashill) is somehow going to ward off massive debilitating injuries to key players, improve goalie consistency, prevent hall of fame legends from ever retiring, strengthen backup goalie's groinal area, add testoterone back into the balls of mules AND be that which attracts every key free agent to want to sign up for all of this (deep breath) will undoubtedly improve things.

 

Babcock + Holland + Health + Experience = Success wait and see




#2543353 10/21 GDT - Red Wings 1 at Canadiens 2 (OT)

Posted by Jersey Wing on 22 October 2014 - 08:13 AM

Look, they played a great road game against a top team. Yes a call was utterly blown that would have resulted in one more point. Still, a point on the road after a good game isn't the worst thing to wake up to. 




#2540199 10/11/14 GDT: Game 2 | Ducks 3 @ Red Wings 2

Posted by VM1138 on 11 October 2014 - 08:38 PM

Why does this kind of s*** always happen against the Ducks? What a let down NHL, after a exciting game to end it like that? blahhhhhh....

 

Honestly it's just because games against the Ducks are always crazy.  These two teams grind each other down and the games are usually very close, meaning that every mistake on the part of a player or a ref is going to be magnified.




#2535373 Nice article on Mantha

Posted by hooon on 02 September 2014 - 11:43 AM

As excited as I am about Mantha - if we're being honest, his presence on the Wings this season affects our cup chances exactly 0%. He isn't going to put us over the top, so I really don't mind giving him one transitional year in the AHL, a league that I believe he can he can score a lot a points in, while refining the other parts of his game.

 

We all want to see him play, but the last thing I want is for him to get small minutes on the bottom two lines with the Wings with non-offensive linemates when he could be getting big minutes in GR with other offensive and two-way guys. 




#2534371 Holland signs 4 year extension with wings **MOD Warning Post 130**

Posted by Dabura on 16 August 2014 - 08:29 AM

frank, you were there this past season. The injuries were a nightmare. They won't be that bad this season. Don't say they will, because there's no way they can be. There's absolutely no way. I say that as a hockey fan, a sports fan, not just a Wings fan.

 

Do you know what a slightly healthier season and/or fewer boneheaded mistakes from Kyle Quincey and/or better luck in the shootout means? Well, for one thing, one more point in the standings gets us the Penguins in the first round. (We ended the regular season tied with the Jackets in terms of points.) I remember very cleary - we wanted the Pens, because we knew we stacked up well against them (even without Zetterberg and Ericsson), and the Pens fans didn't want the Wings, because they knew the Wings stacked up well against the Pens (even with Crosby and Malkin and Neal and Kunitz and The Mighty Matt Niskanen and Future Hall of Famer Brooks Orpik). The Pens were let off the hook and given the Jackets. Because of a tiebreaker rule. Because Johan Franzen and Joakim Andersson spent time as our top center and our heart-and-soul leader had surgery and...Jared Cowen*. (*Don't say we need an enforcer.)

 

Seven more points? We're even with ZOMG CUP CONTENDERS THE MONTREAL CANADIENS. Eight more points? We're even with ZOMG 2015 EASTERN CONFERENCE CHAMPIONS THE TAMPA BAY LIGHTNING. The Flyers? They finished a whopping one point ahead of us. The Rangers, who went to the Stanley Cup Finals? They finished a whopping two points ahead of the Flyers, three points ahead of us.

 

Look, I get it. We're the Red Wings and the Red Wings are Cup-or-bust, no excuses. But this is our first real protracted dose of Adversity in two decades, and we're still right there, knocking on the door. It's really easy to say the glass is half-empty for the Wings, I know this better than most here. I registered here in 2004 and I've been complaining ever since. I could make - and have made, countless times - a really compelling case for why Ken Holland should be fired. But, at the end of the day? If I'm being honest and objective? If I'm looking at what I think is the bigger picture, the bigger plan? I give Ken Holland credit. I think he's doing the right thing, for the most part.

 

If any GM in this league has earned the benefit of the doubt, it's probably Holland. He knows success. Chicago and Los Angeles win two Cups and everyone's talking like they're the greatest teams imaginable. The Wings were contenders for longer than some of the people on these boards have been alive. We came soul-crushingly close to winning back-to-back Cups in '09. We probably should've won it all in '07. We beat the Ducks and had the aforementioned Blackhawks on the ropes in 2013.

 

We have three or four years to win one last Cup for Datsyuk. With Zetterberg, Kronwall, Franzen, Nyquist, Tatar, Sheahan, Jurco, Mantha, Pulkkinen, Athanasiou, Sproul, et al. in the system, I'm liking our chances. I'm not just saying that. I think about this stuff every day. I obsess over this stuff. I definitely have my problems with Ken Holland's decision-making. I definitely have my concerns. I definitely don't like seeing the Wings as anything short of serious contenders. But in due time we're going to be looking back on all this and laughing. I believe that.




#2534271 Holland signs 4 year extension with wings **MOD Warning Post 130**

Posted by Son of a Wing on 14 August 2014 - 04:33 PM

Stopped reading at the first quote. Put together what? Inherited is the proper word.

 

Yes because the team he inherited won all those games....It obviously never changed....we never acquired or drafted anyone good....oh right let me guess....someone else gets all the credit for that... :ok:




#2534284 Holland signs 4 year extension with wings **MOD Warning Post 130**

Posted by number9 on 14 August 2014 - 07:42 PM

 

Yes because the team he inherited won all those games....It obviously never changed....we never acquired or drafted anyone good....oh right let me guess....someone else gets all the credit for that... :ok:

 

Holland has been with us since 94 I believe, but still doesn't get any credit. Nill doesn't even work for us anymore and he sometimes still gets credit. Baffles me.


Actually the most shocking thing to me is how shocking this is to some people (Holland being reupped)




#2534340 Holland signs 4 year extension with wings **MOD Warning Post 130**

Posted by FlashyG on 15 August 2014 - 07:13 PM

Holland like any other GM makes lots of moves I either hate or don't understand but at the end of the day I still think he's the best GM in the history of hockey.

 

If ANY GM has earned enough trust to see a team through a rebuild its Holland.




#2532952 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by rick zombo on 24 July 2014 - 01:04 PM

Zombo, there is nothing wrong with being disappointed in Holland.  I simply said Booth was a hometown kid, more than likely gave Holland a call because most hometown kids do dream of playing for their childhood team.  But Holland is happy with his team and won't do another thing until he signs Alfie.

 

BTW David Friggin Booth is tons better than Dan s***stain Cleary.  Booth has proven to have chemistry with Weiss and that kind of chemistry is valuable around this league.  I was not saying that Booth was going to be the savior of this team, but I'd rather have Booth and 30-40 points at $1.1M than Cleary and his 10 games at $2.75M and probably 0-5 points.  Just saying.  And btw, where in my post did I say Holland is a bad GM? So, when you decide to comment on someone's quote, make sure you are quoting the correct post.

 

You didn't need to say it in your post. Your opinion on Holland has been well stated over the past year.

 

Booth is just as stupid a signing as Cleary, and then some, because when healthy, Cleary is an "every day-er" that's only one season removed from being one of our better playoff performers in 2013. Booth has had two good seasons with Florida and hasn't done jack squat in 3 years.

 

But the grass is always greener............




#2532861 Alfie wants to play

Posted by krsmith17 on 23 July 2014 - 08:47 AM

The Detroit Red Wings have long had the philosophy that prospects need to be "ripe" before they make the jump to the National Hockey League. That means after getting drafted, our prospects spend around 3-5 years between junior or overseas and the AHL before finally getting their shot in the NHL. This has proven to be successful for many years now and I don't see them drastically changing that system any time soon.

 

I don't see there being much of a chance that Mantha makes the big club this season, despite how highly fans, media and management regard him, nor do I think Jurco will start the season in the NHL. I'm actually a fan of the Red Wing way, of over ripening players, and I like the idea of having a farm oozing with talent. Depth is probably the biggest key to a teams success in the league today, and because of our drafting, development and ripening methods, we are definitely stacked with depth in the minors.

 

There is a reason players like Nyquist and Tatar were able to jump into the NHL with little to no growing pains, while highly regarded players drafted by other teams get thrown in the fire too early and flame out due to not being ready, and having their confidence destroyed. I'm just as excited for all these kids as anyone but I think it would be a huge mistake to throw them in the best league in the world before they're fully ready, both physically and mentally. In my opinion, on the back end, Marchenko could be ready for full time duty in the NHL, other than that I think Backman, Ouellet, Sproul and Jensen can all use more seasoning in the AHL. Up front, Jurco is the closest to being ready, but could still use another season down in the minors, along with Pulkkinen, Mantha, Athanasiou, etc.

 

Anyway, point being, I don't think there is any harm in resigning a future hall-of-famer, veteran like Alfredsson, allowing all of our forward prospects another season in Grand Rapids to round out there game. Having these guys getting top line minutes and loads of PP time down in Grand Rapids, to me is a lot more beneficial than getting 3rd line minutes and no PP time up in Detroit.

 

 

As for our RFA's that are not waiver exempt, I don't think there is any chance whatsoever that any team picks up Nestrasil, with a slim chance a team takes a chance on Ferraro, although that may be even less likely now with uncle Tony now as the assistant coach. My only fear is that we lose Callahan. The kid is coming off a career year with the Griffins, is an absolute warrior and would be a great addition to any teams 4th line. I hope Holland doesn't give any team the chance to claim him. No he's not going to put up a lot of points but I think he would be a huge loss...




#2532354 Hockey News: Detroit has the easiest schedule

Posted by dropkickshanahans on 17 July 2014 - 02:34 PM

There is no easy schedule in professional sports.


#2532866 Jim Paek leaves Griffs to help run Korean Hockey

Posted by hillbillywingsfan on 23 July 2014 - 09:50 AM

In the last two years, the organization has lost:

Paek

Anastas

Renney

Peters

Nill

McDonald

Leach

 

Do other organizations have this much turnover?  It might be totally normal, I've just never thought to follow it until now.  Seems like a lot of high profile personnel to lose in a short span. 

Didn't you know? The Redwings org has lost its shine. no one wants to be here anymore. It's only a matter of time before the fans start leaving.