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#2557151 Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

Posted by number9 on 16 December 2014 - 08:05 PM

I just had a good laugh at all of the experts on here who contributed to the "Fire Ken Holland" thread, but are now reluctant to part with any of our "overripe" prospects because all of the sudden "they like our team" too.  And to everyone who understood that the current NHL landscape doesn't allow for any individual team to compete for the Stanley cup every year, please pat yourself on the back for defending him like I did.

 

As for a trade to "get our offense going" - We currently rank 6th in the NHL in GPG and 8th in PP% (all after scoring only 4 goals in 3 games in 4 nights). I think the question is "should we make a trade for a new goaltender who can make a save in a shootout?"... kidding.

 

August - THIS TEAM IS GOING NOWHERE! FIRE KEN HOLLAND! TRADE FOR *Insert name* OR TANK FOR MCDAVID!

 

December - No need to make any trades if we don't have to. Let's all just be patient and hold onto prospects and let them develop.

 

In a way I envy them. They truly live in the moment.




#2557114 Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

Posted by WingedWheel91 on 16 December 2014 - 04:32 PM

I just had a good laugh at all of the experts on here who contributed to the "Fire Ken Holland" thread, but are now reluctant to part with any of our "overripe" prospects because all of the sudden "they like our team" too.  And to everyone who understood that the current NHL landscape doesn't allow for any individual team to compete for the Stanley cup every year, please pat yourself on the back for defending him like I did.

 

As for a trade to "get our offense going" - We currently rank 6th in the NHL in GPG and 8th in PP% (all after scoring only 4 goals in 3 games in 4 nights). I think the question is "should we make a trade for a new goaltender who can make a save in a shootout?"... kidding.




#2554990 Are the Wings a Contender?

Posted by number9 on 08 December 2014 - 10:47 PM

I'm curious why you ranked the Wings so low compared to the Western Conference teams.

 

Tank it




#2554751 12/7 GDT : Red Wings 3 at Hurricanes 1

Posted by Wheelchairsuperhero on 07 December 2014 - 11:28 PM

Tank it folks. We made no moves to improve the team in the off season, we're terrible and the injury thing last year totally wasn't a fluke. Philadelphia is probably going to finish seeded higher than us and the whole eastern conference is big and scary.


Ps. Good win


#2552988 11/30 GDT - Canucks 3 at Red Wings 5

Posted by marcaractac on 30 November 2014 - 05:20 PM

TANK IT!




#2550876 Alfie not playing this season

Posted by Playmaker on 21 November 2014 - 09:31 PM

As much as I will miss the leadership in the locker room, his absence is giving the kids a chance to play.  The kids are part of the reason why I enjoy watching the Wings this season.  The kids are our future, and so far the future is very bright.

The future's so bright, I gotta wear shades....




#2546409 What happened to Calle Jarnkrok?

Posted by e_prime on 03 November 2014 - 01:21 PM

Jarnkrok is probably going to be just fine. 

In the same way that Jurco will be fine... Sheahan will be fine... Nestrasil will be fine...

Not every player is Nyquist and gets it going and keeps it going.  Hence, Jarnkrok's season start.

 

He was traded away from the Wings and he got ice-time, and he said, "Hey, I'm gonna make the best of this and show them what they traded away."  ...and LGW (not all of you) all went: "There's Holland.f****** up again. Trading away our best prospect for a worthless center isn't worth a s*** and that we won't even re-sign."

 

This year started and he's off to a slow start. Sophomore slump? Flash in the pan?

Remains to be seen.

I personally haven't watched enough of him to make a judgement. TBH, I don't really care.

I wish him all the luck in his career and pray that Holland doesn't have to re-acquire him a few years down the road for a first-round pick.




#2537570 Babcock "I don't think it will be my final year here"

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 29 September 2014 - 12:20 PM

Another one of these ridiculous threads.... everytime Babcock farts there seems to be more speculation that he is not happy (even though he says he is) and he is going somewhere (probably Toronto because they are already planning their Stanley Cup Parade).

 

The other hilarious thing is that folks believe that replacing a battle tested and proven winner/veteran/warrior/genius (Mr. B-cock) with a green eared but eager rookie (Blashill) is somehow going to ward off massive debilitating injuries to key players, improve goalie consistency, prevent hall of fame legends from ever retiring, strengthen backup goalie's groinal area, add testoterone back into the balls of mules AND be that which attracts every key free agent to want to sign up for all of this (deep breath) will undoubtedly improve things.

 

Babcock + Holland + Health + Experience = Success wait and see

 

I agree with you on the Blashill versus Babcock point.  Blashill may very well succeed in the NHL but it's a grass is always greener situation .

 

As for Babcock's true feelings about the team and his job, who knows.  I don't expect him to comment publicly if he were unhappy or considering other opportunities.  There is the chance he may want to challenge himself with a new team.  And something like Toronto would definitely be a challenge but also an opportunity for greatness on his part if he turns that team around. 

 

Personnel changes rarely happens in this order but I think Holland is the one running out of ideas, not Babcock.  Plus there isn't really a coach I'd pick over him. 




#2537567 Babcock "I don't think it will be my final year here"

Posted by The Secret on 29 September 2014 - 11:37 AM

Another one of these ridiculous threads.... everytime Babcock farts there seems to be more speculation that he is not happy (even though he says he is) and he is going somewhere (probably Toronto because they are already planning their Stanley Cup Parade).

 

The other hilarious thing is that folks believe that replacing a battle tested and proven winner/veteran/warrior/genius (Mr. B-cock) with a green eared but eager rookie (Blashill) is somehow going to ward off massive debilitating injuries to key players, improve goalie consistency, prevent hall of fame legends from ever retiring, strengthen backup goalie's groinal area, add testoterone back into the balls of mules AND be that which attracts every key free agent to want to sign up for all of this (deep breath) will undoubtedly improve things.

 

Babcock + Holland + Health + Experience = Success wait and see




#2543353 10/21 GDT - Red Wings 1 at Canadiens 2 (OT)

Posted by Jersey Wing on 22 October 2014 - 08:13 AM

Look, they played a great road game against a top team. Yes a call was utterly blown that would have resulted in one more point. Still, a point on the road after a good game isn't the worst thing to wake up to. 




#2540199 10/11/14 GDT: Game 2 | Ducks 3 @ Red Wings 2

Posted by VM1138 on 11 October 2014 - 08:38 PM

Why does this kind of s*** always happen against the Ducks? What a let down NHL, after a exciting game to end it like that? blahhhhhh....

 

Honestly it's just because games against the Ducks are always crazy.  These two teams grind each other down and the games are usually very close, meaning that every mistake on the part of a player or a ref is going to be magnified.




#2535373 Nice article on Mantha

Posted by hooon on 02 September 2014 - 11:43 AM

As excited as I am about Mantha - if we're being honest, his presence on the Wings this season affects our cup chances exactly 0%. He isn't going to put us over the top, so I really don't mind giving him one transitional year in the AHL, a league that I believe he can he can score a lot a points in, while refining the other parts of his game.

 

We all want to see him play, but the last thing I want is for him to get small minutes on the bottom two lines with the Wings with non-offensive linemates when he could be getting big minutes in GR with other offensive and two-way guys. 




#2534371 Holland signs 4 year extension with wings **MOD Warning Post 130**

Posted by Dabura on 16 August 2014 - 08:29 AM

frank, you were there this past season. The injuries were a nightmare. They won't be that bad this season. Don't say they will, because there's no way they can be. There's absolutely no way. I say that as a hockey fan, a sports fan, not just a Wings fan.

 

Do you know what a slightly healthier season and/or fewer boneheaded mistakes from Kyle Quincey and/or better luck in the shootout means? Well, for one thing, one more point in the standings gets us the Penguins in the first round. (We ended the regular season tied with the Jackets in terms of points.) I remember very cleary - we wanted the Pens, because we knew we stacked up well against them (even without Zetterberg and Ericsson), and the Pens fans didn't want the Wings, because they knew the Wings stacked up well against the Pens (even with Crosby and Malkin and Neal and Kunitz and The Mighty Matt Niskanen and Future Hall of Famer Brooks Orpik). The Pens were let off the hook and given the Jackets. Because of a tiebreaker rule. Because Johan Franzen and Joakim Andersson spent time as our top center and our heart-and-soul leader had surgery and...Jared Cowen*. (*Don't say we need an enforcer.)

 

Seven more points? We're even with ZOMG CUP CONTENDERS THE MONTREAL CANADIENS. Eight more points? We're even with ZOMG 2015 EASTERN CONFERENCE CHAMPIONS THE TAMPA BAY LIGHTNING. The Flyers? They finished a whopping one point ahead of us. The Rangers, who went to the Stanley Cup Finals? They finished a whopping two points ahead of the Flyers, three points ahead of us.

 

Look, I get it. We're the Red Wings and the Red Wings are Cup-or-bust, no excuses. But this is our first real protracted dose of Adversity in two decades, and we're still right there, knocking on the door. It's really easy to say the glass is half-empty for the Wings, I know this better than most here. I registered here in 2004 and I've been complaining ever since. I could make - and have made, countless times - a really compelling case for why Ken Holland should be fired. But, at the end of the day? If I'm being honest and objective? If I'm looking at what I think is the bigger picture, the bigger plan? I give Ken Holland credit. I think he's doing the right thing, for the most part.

 

If any GM in this league has earned the benefit of the doubt, it's probably Holland. He knows success. Chicago and Los Angeles win two Cups and everyone's talking like they're the greatest teams imaginable. The Wings were contenders for longer than some of the people on these boards have been alive. We came soul-crushingly close to winning back-to-back Cups in '09. We probably should've won it all in '07. We beat the Ducks and had the aforementioned Blackhawks on the ropes in 2013.

 

We have three or four years to win one last Cup for Datsyuk. With Zetterberg, Kronwall, Franzen, Nyquist, Tatar, Sheahan, Jurco, Mantha, Pulkkinen, Athanasiou, Sproul, et al. in the system, I'm liking our chances. I'm not just saying that. I think about this stuff every day. I obsess over this stuff. I definitely have my problems with Ken Holland's decision-making. I definitely have my concerns. I definitely don't like seeing the Wings as anything short of serious contenders. But in due time we're going to be looking back on all this and laughing. I believe that.




#2534271 Holland signs 4 year extension with wings **MOD Warning Post 130**

Posted by Son of a Wing on 14 August 2014 - 04:33 PM

Stopped reading at the first quote. Put together what? Inherited is the proper word.

 

Yes because the team he inherited won all those games....It obviously never changed....we never acquired or drafted anyone good....oh right let me guess....someone else gets all the credit for that... :ok:




#2534284 Holland signs 4 year extension with wings **MOD Warning Post 130**

Posted by number9 on 14 August 2014 - 07:42 PM

 

Yes because the team he inherited won all those games....It obviously never changed....we never acquired or drafted anyone good....oh right let me guess....someone else gets all the credit for that... :ok:

 

Holland has been with us since 94 I believe, but still doesn't get any credit. Nill doesn't even work for us anymore and he sometimes still gets credit. Baffles me.


Actually the most shocking thing to me is how shocking this is to some people (Holland being reupped)