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#2525191 Detroit re-signs Gustavsson 1 yr $1.85 mill

Posted by Nightfall on 23 June 2014 - 07:24 AM

I don't think it will be at all.

Cause even if mraz lives up to his hype i see the goalies doing 50:50 for a couple years. Then Howard can resign as the backup or go elsewhere. But mraz will be fairly cheap for awhile.

At the end I the day our goalie sitatuion IS THE LEAST of our concerns for awhile.


Mrazek will only be fairly cheap so long as we keep him in the minors until he has to move up.  Just think if we would have brought him up last year after he won the Calder cup, he would be demanding more money at the end of this season.  I do agree that the goalie situation we have here is the least of our concerns.

#2525077 Detroit re-signs Gustavsson 1 yr $1.85 mill

Posted by Nightfall on 21 June 2014 - 08:17 PM

Great signing.  Mrazek will get 60+ games for the Griffins next year.  Its is last year of AHL eligibility so I am glad to see him in Grand Rapids for his final year.  I would rather see him play 60 games in the AHL as opposed to 20 in the NHL as a backup.  After next year, Mrazek will be with Detroit and competing for Howards job.

#2524960 Compliance buyout expected to be used on Tootoo

Posted by Nightfall on 20 June 2014 - 09:34 PM

If you had to bet on it. Would you bet he remains a 25 goal a year player? Or continue his downward trend of scoring less and playing less due to injuries?

That's why I would've bought him out buts it's too late now. Holland has no balls and this team will continue to be mediocre for awhile.


Every player goes downward as they get older.  That being said, buying him out at this stage accomplishes nothing.  We have can't get his production from anyone currently in the system.  No one who has the skill to produce like Franzen is going to sign here for less than $6 million a season and for a term that is as long as Franzen.  Then we will be in the same boat we are in today.  A veteran like Vanek that is going to demand more money to produce less and then keep producing less as he gets older.


So, in that situation, I would rather pay $4 to Franzen and just keep him going until the expiration of his contract.  By the end of it, the salary cap will be high enough where aging veterans will be getting paid the same as he is right now.


Holland made the right call here.  If he would have bought Franzen out, he would have gotten his balls cut off for sure.  Especially when he would have made a change to bring in a more expensive player who produced less.


Tootoo was the best choice to be bought out.  It shows that the Wings are a high class organization by assisting Tootoo at getting another shot in the NHL by releasing him early.  Other players will take note.

#2524850 Joe Thornton to the Wings?

Posted by Nightfall on 20 June 2014 - 12:22 PM

The sharks would probably want Nyquist, Jurco, and a pick for him.  I say no.

#2524126 Dan Cleary may return...sigh

Posted by Nightfall on 17 June 2014 - 07:27 AM

I am ok with a cheap 2 way contract.  I think he would provide good leadership for the kids in the Griffins organization for sure.

#2523017 Rutherford to Pens as GM....

Posted by Nightfall on 06 June 2014 - 12:30 PM

Blysma fired.


Pittsburgh treated him like crap.  They should have just let him go back when they fired Sherro.

#2522754 Jeff Blashill close to signing an extension... Babcock talks starting

Posted by Nightfall on 04 June 2014 - 03:21 PM

Great signing.  Hell, he works so well with the kids that I would be happy just seeing him down in Grand Rapids developing the players for the NHL.  Keep in mind the Griffins coaching had been so horrible at times where we had great talent but just couldn't apply that talent on the ice.  Now, we are starting to see the benefits to having a coach who can work with the kids and develop them the right way.  I hope they gave him a raise because he deserves it.

#2518613 Wings will buy out Tootoo, not Franzen.

Posted by Nightfall on 01 May 2014 - 07:29 AM


I see absolutely no problem with the bolded part, maybe he needs/wants a change of scenery and the Wings could use the money to bring in defensive and offensive stogap help. Win-win for both


I am still trying to figure out who we could get for Franzen's cap number that would be just as good if not better.  You know when Vanek signs with a team he is going to ask for $6 million a season at least.


If we are going to buy out Franzen, and put plugs into our team, I am sure that wouldn't go over well with the fanbase.

#2518261 Ken Holland Quotes (Apr 29th

Posted by Nightfall on 29 April 2014 - 07:45 PM

Actually, he costs 1.9 million, couldn't crack the lineup when absolutely everyone was out of the lineup, he cleared waivers 3 times and absolutely no one was interested in taking him for free.  


He wouldn't be free.  Someone would have had to pickup his contract.  Yea, I get what you are saying though.

#2517951 Was Legwand worth it?

Posted by Nightfall on 28 April 2014 - 10:34 AM


If you'd told me a year ago that we'd basically be flipping Jarnkrok for nothing, I would've laughed. If you'd told me Holland would cite a logjam at center as a major motivating factor, I would've laughed even harder, knowing full well that even with a thin group of centermen, Babcock probably would've put him on the wing anyway.


Like I said, if it had been, say, Dave Nonis trading Jarnkrok for Legwand, we would've had a field day with it.


Right now, Jarnkrok is just a prospect and he did look good in 12 games with Nashville.  To call this trade a success or failure will be judged in a few years.  Either you have faith that he will be a guaranteed stud, or you think he will be somewhere in the middle, or you don't believe he will be good at all.  Right now, I believe that some Wings fans are going over the top by saying he is a future star in the league.  I don't know what his future is going to be so I won't speculate.


I will agree with you on this point.  If they don't retain Legwand, then it really was flipping him for nothing in which case I will be disappointed.  If Legwand signs, then it was a worthwhile trade.


BTW, who listens to what Pierre Mcguire has to say anyway?  When Mcguire gushes about anyone, it usually gets a lot of scorn from Wings fans.  ;)

#2517556 Grand Rapids Griffins - defend the cup

Posted by Nightfall on 27 April 2014 - 09:16 AM

Griffins are getting back Sheahan, Jurco, and Oulette for their playoff run.  I thought Glendenning was also a possibility, but oh well.


Go Griffins!

#2517555 Was Legwand worth it?

Posted by Nightfall on 27 April 2014 - 09:14 AM

Legwand will not be back... and we gave them Zetterberg 2.0 for a rental...

Kenny is saying one thing and doing opposite...


I am still trying to figure out why some people here think that he was Zetterberg 2.0 with just 12 games of NHL experience under his belt.  Are people that dilluted to think that he is an elite NHL player at this stage in his career?  There are many players who started off great in the first 20 games and then turned out to be average NHL players or not around the league after that.

#2513641 ADQF | Game 3 | Boston 3 @ Detroit 0, BOS leads series 2-1

Posted by Nightfall on 22 April 2014 - 07:31 PM

True but those goals are deflating to our young guys, it should not be, but it is.


I will agree with you on deflating goals.  As a goalie, I know that is a factor.


If we are going to expect Howard to play every game and get lucky like game 1, its unrealistic.

#2512451 ECQF Game 2 GDT : Red Wings 1 at Bruins 4 - Series tied 1-1

Posted by Nightfall on 20 April 2014 - 03:51 PM


Remember a poster called Crymson?


Hell, 1/2 this forum is filled with fairweather fans.  Crymson is a realist.

#2512410 ECQF Game 2 GDT : Red Wings 1 at Bruins 4 - Series tied 1-1

Posted by Nightfall on 20 April 2014 - 03:45 PM

Awesome goal!  All aboard!