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#2143025 Unbelievably bad goal.

Posted by Nightfall on 06 April 2011 - 10:15 PM



This is the replay that I saw. As a ref, just seeing that video means that Toronto should have reversed the call. Is it possible that Legace knocked the puck in the net when he reached back for it? Yup. If thats the case, then it is a good goal. I can understand it had to be irrefutable proof. So I can understand how that is a good goal. The Wings have benefited from gifts like this in the past. It would be different if the Wings NEVER got a gift like this. I say quit whining about it. Its hockey people. Sometimes, teams or players do get breaks.


#2142975 4/6 GDT: Red Wings 0 at Hurricanes 3

Posted by Nightfall on 06 April 2011 - 09:17 PM

I honestly am curious why you have the idea that they will have a deep run based on this season.

Take the time to answer my questions that I posed to you and actually read my post to you. I feel I already covered it in that mostly. Heck, I covered it in that post you just picked that one sentence out of.
3 seasons

preseason - doesn't matter
regular season - get into playoffs, otherwise doesn't matter
playoffs - what really matters

Washington last season, #1 regular season, out first round.
Montreal last season, #8 regular season, conference finals.
Philadelphia last season, #7 regular season and needed to win in shootout, cup finals.

Coincidence? Luck?

No one really knows how far their team is going to make it in the playoffs. Everything is a factor. I just have faith the Wings are going to make a deep run this season. To say they are going out first round or not going to do anything because of bad play now is really no indication of playoff success. If it was, teams who finish on a tear at the end of the season would win the cup every time. The top teams in the league would win the cup every year. Just the fact that the presidents trophy winners only win the cup 25% of the time should be a good indication that anything can happen come playoff time.

Now, knowing this information, how can you be so pessimistic? Shouldn't you be a little optimistic or at least wait and see how they do when the playoff start until you bury the Wings?


#2142964 4/6 GDT: Red Wings 0 at Hurricanes 3

Posted by Nightfall on 06 April 2011 - 09:07 PM

Correct. I have every confidence that this team will excel in the playoffs. I don't care a single bit about the possibility of disappointment. Apparently the latter is not true of you.

It really does take an informed hockey fan to know that there are three seasons in hockey...

preseason
regular season
playoffs

Just because a team dominates in the preseason doesn't mean that they will have a great regular season or the opposite happens.

Just because a team has a difficult portion of the regular season, but still makes the playoffs, doesn't mean that they are going to fail in the playoffs. Look at countless 7 or 8 seeded teams who beat top seeded teams. Montreal last year? Philadelphia who got in on the last shootout of the season last season? They played lazy, but still got in and then made it to the cup finals and the conference finals. How did that happen? Pure luck?

The playoffs are all that matters, and in this day and age of parity in the NHL, anyone can win.

The Wings are going for a deep run into the playoffs.


#2142918 4/6 GDT: Red Wings 0 at Hurricanes 3

Posted by Nightfall on 06 April 2011 - 08:41 PM

Howard came up with numerous big saves tonight.

He would have had to rob the Canes 3 more times to make it a zero-zero game. I agree, he came up with good saves, but Cam Ward stole the show. Either that or the Wings couldn't put the puck in the net. Either way, its kinda hard to win a game when you don't score.


#2142885 4/6 GDT: Red Wings 0 at Hurricanes 3

Posted by Nightfall on 06 April 2011 - 08:29 PM

Yeah, that was a much, much better team back then.

How about 2007-08 then when they dropped 10 of 11 straight games.

Point is that crap happens in the regular season. The playoffs are a different animal. You should know that by now. The Wings may not go all the way this year, but I forsee a conference finals appearance this year.


#2142853 4/6 GDT: Red Wings 0 at Hurricanes 3

Posted by Nightfall on 06 April 2011 - 08:23 PM

I find it funny that people actually think this team is gonna turn a switch on for the post season. ****, ****...

They did in 2002 when they won 1 game in their last 10 and then lost the first two in the first round of the playoffs. Course, no one remembers that string of s*** performances.


#2142758 4/6 GDT: Red Wings 0 at Hurricanes 3

Posted by Nightfall on 06 April 2011 - 07:47 PM

Kamelåso.

Gesundheit!


#2142725 4/6 GDT: Red Wings 0 at Hurricanes 3

Posted by Nightfall on 06 April 2011 - 07:37 PM

Damn nice goal by Skinner. He deserves the Calder.


#2142697 4/6 GDT: Red Wings 0 at Hurricanes 3

Posted by Nightfall on 06 April 2011 - 07:20 PM

So close there Cleary. The puck just won't go in, seems like a shutout in progress for Ward

Game is only half over and you are conceding already? Wow, I must be on letsgowings.com.


#2140951 4/2 GDT: Red Wings 4 at Predators 3 (OT)

Posted by Nightfall on 02 April 2011 - 05:45 PM

I could go back and select at least 3-4 posts where you were just pretty much dumping. I didn't respond to to the first few but maybe I should have. And I'll clue you. I'm probably old enough to be your parent. We're both lucky I'm not.

And it is my usual habit to read the board after the game is over.

Welcome to LGW by the way.

The place where "true wings fans" dump on their team through the tough times and the non-cup winning years, and then take credit as true fans when they win. You sound surprised when you see this behavior. Hell, its commonplace around here.


#2139717 Believe

Posted by Nightfall on 31 March 2011 - 09:11 PM

Sounds to me like you need to quit confusing legitimate complaints about the team right now (and they do exist) and people who no longer have any interest in the Red Wings, or never had any to begin with. Who the hell died and left you the authority on who is and who is not a fan? I don't recall Matt or any of the other modmins bestowing you with that ability. It's rude and it's presumptuous. So knock it off.

Legit complaints I have no issue with. Declaring the team dead and buried is bandwagon talk. Just my .02 cents.

:rolleyes:

Oh brother.

Obviously, I forgot the sarcasm tags for people who are slow. Excuse that oversight.


#2139381 Believe

Posted by Nightfall on 31 March 2011 - 08:49 AM

Well put, Nightfall. I totally agree with you but that's the way it is unfortunately. When the sun's shining, there is really no better team or organization to root for. And I think that's where people fail to see how utterly ridiculous they sound when they sit there and blast out hyperbole and expect for others to read it with any credibility.

Just stop, please. This team hasn't looked hungry enough, I'll grant all of you that. Opinions are obviously something that this forum and site are all about, and for the most part you are all the most knowledgeable and passionate Red Wings fans I have heard from. You are all better than most that seem to lead you on and make it seem like the "cool thing" to do to just unload idiotic statements in regards to this team. I realize the "realists" in here are playing it safe because they can simply say "I told you so" when the time comes for the Wings to get axed in the playoffs and they can rejoice if we advance. Nothing changes, just keep in mind that supporting a team might be tough sometimes but being a bandwagoner, well, that's reserved for crap fanbases like Chicago. Don't liken yourselves to that.

I really cried when I read this. :clap:


#2139371 Believe

Posted by Nightfall on 31 March 2011 - 08:34 AM

I believe that the bandwagon fans will leave this forum and go somewhere else. I believe that those that are counting us out of the season should just cancel their accounts and go somewhere else. What a bunch of pansies. Seriously, one bad game and everyone is hitting the panic button? Oh, and one last thing....

I believe in the Red Wings. Always have, always will.


#2138133 Let's Talk About the Refereeing

Posted by Nightfall on 29 March 2011 - 10:09 AM

Why does everyone say that a game will be 3 hours longer if the officiating is fixed? That's such an overreaction to a very modest statement.

Nowhere did I say that every single play should be reviewable, so please don't put words in my mouth to make my comments sound absurd. All I said was that the replay system as it is now is very flawed. There is a very vague line as to what is reviewable, and what isn't. It is so flawed that sometimes simple plays take 10 minutes to review, instead of 30 seconds. Fixing the review system should make it faster, not longer. I never said every single play should be reviewable.

Ref homers like you love to jump to the argument that games will be hours longer if the review system is fixed, which is ridiculous. If anything, review improvements will speed up the game while also functioning as it should - to get the call correct.

Calm down cowboy. :D

I asked you to make some recommendations as to what you would change. I wasn't trying to put words in your mouth. So what changes would you make to the system to make it better and faster? You spoke a good line there, but offered no specifics. I am eagerly awaiting your reply.

Speaking of putting words in peoples mouths, I said it would be 30 minutes longer (total of 3 hours if you would have taken the opportunity to read what I wrote) not "hours longer" like you said. Also, calling me out to be a ref homer because I am looking to improve the game as well? Come on man. So I guess in the "putting words in your mouth" statement applies to you as well. Not that you will apologize for it....

Lets discuss how we can make reffing better here. At least I brought ideas to the table with specifics. :)


#2138116 Let's Talk About the Refereeing

Posted by Nightfall on 29 March 2011 - 09:09 AM

I have watched that Zetterberg play over and over, zero hook. None.

You have the benefit of slow motion and instant replay. If you really want to put yourself in a position of being a ref, follow these situations.

You are on the ice and see something happen. You have an instant to make a call or not make one. You have no benefit from instant replay. What do you do? Its all about perception. Odds are, if anyone is put in that situation, there are going to be good calls and bad calls. The Wings have benefitted and gotten screwed a couple times this season from both sides.

As a ref, there are sometimes I wish I had the ability to slow time down and rewind plays in my head. Then I would be the best ref in the game. :D