Gotta give Howard some credit too. He was a steady goalie. He didn't need to come up with game saving stops all the time, but he did have to play solid which he did. I was watching some of the goals he allowed and I can count one softie he probably should have had. The rest were deflections, uncovered players on the other side of the net, and so on. If the defense plays this well and the goaltending is solid, then the Wings are going to go far. Especially considering 13 different players scored in this series. Talk about depth!
ESPN wouldn't shove the NHL down the throats of anyone.
You have to follow the money with the way ESPN treated the NHL when it was on. They simply do not give hockey enough attention to warrant such a substantial difference in a contract offer.
Hire Gary Thorne to NBC, and I guarantee you half of the criticisms of this deal would go away.
I agree with Doc Holliday.
I remember numerous occasions that the NHL games would be cut off if they went over their time or they wouldn't go over to the game if something else was going on. People here may not remember what it was like back then, but I was furious during the playoffs back in 1996 and 1997. I remember a few Wings games getting cut off for some golf tournament and there was no where else you could see the game. I know, just one example, but its a good one.
I was glad when Versus picked up the NHL. They give the NHL more exposure than ESPN ever did. Less homes? Thats fine. More specials, hockey shows, and so on is what I want to see. With the NHL Network now, I am a very happy camper.
I want Gary Thorne!
NHL Home Ice on XM Radio had a great interview with Gary Thorne and Bill Clement together. Gary pretty much said his existing contract to do baseball was more lucrative and NBC and Versus couldn't pay him enough. ESPN did volunteer to let him out of his contract, but they sweetened the deal to keep him around. Who knows what the future holds though. He has not ruled out a return to broadcasting hockey. Gary also said that the thing he misses most about hockey is the playoffs. The two month run is nothing like anything else in sports.
I love what I see from the Wings. Power play aside, they are generating traffic in front of the goalie and shooting a lot. This worked on the first two goals and works a lot in all levels of hockey. They should be doing this more often instead of looking for those fancy plays. Hell, as a goalie, its always harder to stop a shot that you don't see rather than some fancy play that you see develop in front of you.
He just seems to lack heart. He doesn't really try out there, and almost every interview he gives always sounds like he's ready to leave any day now and is just finishing out the year.
Its these kinds of posts that really irk me. Modano hasn't had a great season thats for sure. I really feel if he was not injured for 3 months, he would have contributed a lot more. This being said, to say the guy lacks heart is really a punch in the balls. This guy had to go through a lot of physical therapy after a skate blade cut through his arm and severed a tendon. It takes a motivated man, a man possessed even, to go through that hell and be ready to play professional hockey in three months.
Modano and the rest of the Wings are going to play their hardest in the playoffs. This much I know of. As for him retiring, I surely hope he does as well. Modano is playing Dallas Drake minutes, and Drake knew his time was running short as well in 2008 when the playoffs started. It takes a real man to look on the career he has had and to make tough choices when it comes to moving on. The game of hockey could use a great retired player like Modano. Either working with Shanny at improving the game or working with the Stars as they rebuild.
Any forum member that considers themselves to be a Wings fan pointing fingers at the players and saying they have no heart is not a real fan. Back your team, players, and management. They have given the fans everything that they have wanted and then some. No other professional sports team has the record the Wings have had in the last 20+ years.
Hossa played hardball with Holland and Kenny went with his backup. It's too bad (for us) Hossa did not start out with what he eventually signed with the Hawks, as he would have been a Wing.
I think Franzen still could wow us in the playoffs, so I'm really not crying too hard over it.
I agree with this. I also want to say that it is easy to look in hindsight and say we should have never made that decision. At the time when Franzen was signed, it was a great decision. I would have much rather taken Franzen and another player like a Drew Miller than take Hossa.
Everyone wants the Wings to get 2nd place, but they want to rest their starters. Personally, I say rest the starters and lets go in at 3rd place. The Hockey gods have not been nice to us the last few years with all the injuries. Winning a cup takes a healthy team.
This is the replay that I saw. As a ref, just seeing that video means that Toronto should have reversed the call. Is it possible that Legace knocked the puck in the net when he reached back for it? Yup. If thats the case, then it is a good goal. I can understand it had to be irrefutable proof. So I can understand how that is a good goal. The Wings have benefited from gifts like this in the past. It would be different if the Wings NEVER got a gift like this. I say quit whining about it. Its hockey people. Sometimes, teams or players do get breaks.
I honestly am curious why you have the idea that they will have a deep run based on this season.
Take the time to answer my questions that I posed to you and actually read my post to you. I feel I already covered it in that mostly. Heck, I covered it in that post you just picked that one sentence out of. 3 seasons
preseason - doesn't matter regular season - get into playoffs, otherwise doesn't matter playoffs - what really matters
Washington last season, #1 regular season, out first round. Montreal last season, #8 regular season, conference finals. Philadelphia last season, #7 regular season and needed to win in shootout, cup finals.
No one really knows how far their team is going to make it in the playoffs. Everything is a factor. I just have faith the Wings are going to make a deep run this season. To say they are going out first round or not going to do anything because of bad play now is really no indication of playoff success. If it was, teams who finish on a tear at the end of the season would win the cup every time. The top teams in the league would win the cup every year. Just the fact that the presidents trophy winners only win the cup 25% of the time should be a good indication that anything can happen come playoff time.
Now, knowing this information, how can you be so pessimistic? Shouldn't you be a little optimistic or at least wait and see how they do when the playoff start until you bury the Wings?
Correct. I have every confidence that this team will excel in the playoffs. I don't care a single bit about the possibility of disappointment. Apparently the latter is not true of you.
It really does take an informed hockey fan to know that there are three seasons in hockey...
preseason regular season playoffs
Just because a team dominates in the preseason doesn't mean that they will have a great regular season or the opposite happens.
Just because a team has a difficult portion of the regular season, but still makes the playoffs, doesn't mean that they are going to fail in the playoffs. Look at countless 7 or 8 seeded teams who beat top seeded teams. Montreal last year? Philadelphia who got in on the last shootout of the season last season? They played lazy, but still got in and then made it to the cup finals and the conference finals. How did that happen? Pure luck?
The playoffs are all that matters, and in this day and age of parity in the NHL, anyone can win.
The Wings are going for a deep run into the playoffs.
He would have had to rob the Canes 3 more times to make it a zero-zero game. I agree, he came up with good saves, but Cam Ward stole the show. Either that or the Wings couldn't put the puck in the net. Either way, its kinda hard to win a game when you don't score.
Yeah, that was a much, much better team back then.
How about 2007-08 then when they dropped 10 of 11 straight games.
Point is that crap happens in the regular season. The playoffs are a different animal. You should know that by now. The Wings may not go all the way this year, but I forsee a conference finals appearance this year.