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#2169847 WCSF Game 5 GDT: Red Wings 4 at Sharks 3

Posted by Nightfall on 08 May 2011 - 10:00 PM

No my point is that we say stupid things in the heat of the moment, that's all. Let's just enjoy the win! :thumbup:

Fixed it for you, but I agree either way 100%. It just irritates the hell out of me when I see the lemmings bail and then come back in a hour span.

#2169804 WCSF Game 5 GDT: Red Wings 4 at Sharks 3

Posted by Nightfall on 08 May 2011 - 09:50 PM

Quit with the calling out of "band wagon" fans.
People had every right to be furious with the wings for most of the game. I was certain we weren't going to win but I've never been happy to be wrong.Guess I'm a bandwagon fan?

Furious? Hell, I was furious. Furious does not equal bandwagon fan.

Counting their team out and saying that the team is worthless? Thats bandwagon fan talk.

#2169739 WCSF Game 5 GDT: Red Wings 4 at Sharks 3

Posted by Nightfall on 08 May 2011 - 09:40 PM

"This game is over."

"Cock teases."

"Cock teases version 2."

"Come on, I told you this s*** was over."

Who would have thunk it. A Red Wings fan forum full of bandwagon fans. When the chips are down, some of these so called fans bail on the team. When the Wings turn it around, they act like they were fans the whole time.

#2169727 WCSF Game 5 GDT: Red Wings 4 at Sharks 3

Posted by Nightfall on 08 May 2011 - 09:38 PM

told you this s*** was over

Season over again.

Howard with another 3rd period goal he needs to stop.

Okay, NOW we're done.

Well I guess that's the game :(

I'd love to eat crow though

Time to shave.

Welcome back to the bandwagon "fans".

#2168877 WCSF Game 5 GDT: Red Wings 4 at Sharks 3

Posted by Nightfall on 08 May 2011 - 07:35 PM

Total embelishment

Dumbest post in this thread so far. Textbook trip.

#2168873 WCSF Game 5 GDT: Red Wings 4 at Sharks 3

Posted by Nightfall on 08 May 2011 - 07:34 PM

Howard is keeping us in this game.

#2168259 Wings in Seven

Posted by Nightfall on 07 May 2011 - 01:20 AM

Hey lets just support our team til the end. Gotta think they'll win every game until they don't. Lets Go Wings

Where do you think you are? The hfboards? This is letsgowings.com. The majority of "fans" here don't support the team unless they are winning in dominating fashion.

#2166550 WCSF Game 3 GDT: Sharks 4 at Red Wings 3 (OT)

Posted by Nightfall on 04 May 2011 - 11:02 PM

Meh, life goes on.

You have to hand it to San Jose, they are capitalizing on their chances. The Wings put forth a much better effort today, but I don't forgive them for the lack of intensity and hustle in games 1 and 2. The Wings even got the power play in OT and really did nothing with it. I know the refs got a bad rap last year in the playoffs. This year, the Wings have no one to blame but themselves. Especially in games 1 and 2.

I am behind the Wings all the way. Even going to watch Game 4. There was a team last year that won 4 in a row, and maybe the Wings can do that this year. If not, well, there isn't anything that can be done about it by whining or crying. I will put my cheering behind Steve Yzerman and the Tampa Bay Lightning.

#2164583 Reasons why Wings are down 0-2

Posted by Nightfall on 03 May 2011 - 08:39 AM

The Wings are down 0-2 because the Sharks are playing better.


Seriously though, look at the stats. People like blaming the reffing and diving by San Jose, but the stats don't lie. The puck possession, shots, scoring chances, and offensive zone possession are all owned by the Sharks. Sure, the Wings get chances, but the Sharks are getting almost double what the Wings are getting. Our "weak link" was always thought to be Howard. Well, Howard has turned in 2 spectacular efforts to keep us in the games and the team in front of him really has not been able to outplay the Sharks team.

Some people will say the Wings are not playing with enough heart. I wouldn't go that far to insult them like that. What I will say is, the Sharks are skating harder and winning the puck battles in the first two games. Can the Wings do that in games 3 and 4? I believe they can. Its quite obvious that the Wings have to play harder because their margin for error is slim.

#2161946 WCSF Game 1 GDT: Red Wings 1 at Sharks 2 (OT)

Posted by Nightfall on 30 April 2011 - 09:14 AM

I can't take credit for this, but I agree with it 100%


Now... I've been a lifelong Red Wings fan. But after the OT loss to the Sharks tonight, I've seen facebook, twitter, and forum posts pop up with the same opinion being shared, mostly of the following variety:

"zOMG we lost! The NHL has it out for us! We're never going to win!"
"The referees screwed us!! 6 penalties for, only 2 against! This is a conspiracy!!"

So, since I frown on stupidity, we're going to break this down, period by period, goal by goal, penalty by penalty, and educate people as to what actually happened tonight.

P.S. - Penalties were 7-4, not 6-2.


Red Wings come out of the gates flying. Good forecheck, good swarming through the neutral zone causing a lot of dump-ins. Officials seem to be letting the players play rather than get themselves too involved (which in the playoffs, is what should be happening).

Goals: Good pressure by the Wings in the offensive zone. Datsyuk rolls out of the corner with the puck, and Lidstrom, realizing all the Sharks are puck-watching, sneaks down the slot in a perfect example of an umbrella offense, and one-times the puck home.

Penalties: A skirmish after a cross-check by Scott Nichol leads to Nichol heading to the box, as well as one from each team for the skirmish.

Current penalties: DET: 1 SJ: 2

Jonathan Ericsson gets caught on a bad pinch, and water-skis a guy rushing up the ice on the odd-man rush.

Current penalties: DET: 2 SJ: 2

Dany Heatley goes to throw a hit, but his wide stance causes Stuart to wipe out. A very very marginal call (In the Red Wings favor? Are you SERIOUS? That goes against everything our conspiratorial belief stands for!).

Current penalties: DET: 2 SJ: 3


Aaaand here come the Sharks. Shots were 18-9 this period, and how the Sharks didn't tie this game up in the middle stanza, I'll never know. Let's put it this way, when the Zamboni came out between 2 and 3, they only had to clean half the ice, because I don't think the Red Wings sniffed center ice. Jimmy Howard stands on his head in an MVP effort.

Goals: None. Refer to the Jimmy Howard statement in previous paragraph.

Penalties: Jiri Hudler for tripping. When you put your stick on a guy's ankle and YANK, you're probably going to sit for a couple. Sorry bud.

Current penalties: DET: 3 SJ: 3 (SOOO lopsided, right?)

Joe Pavelski snows Jimmy Howard. Howard takes offense. One a piece. Fairly simple decision.

Current penalties: DET: 4 SJ: 4 (OMG, NHL's fault)


There's the goal I called about 45 minutes before it was scored. More of the same in the 3rd. The Sharks dominating and Jimmy Howard bailing the Wings out long enough for them to dump the puck in and get a line change.

Goals: Pavelski late in the 3rd. Drew Miller blows a tire, giving Joe Thornton a lane for a shot that rebounds off Howard, giving Pavelski an opportunity to show off his hand-eye coordination with a baseball bat swing into the net (This is obviously the NHL/official's fault, not Paul Boyer for putting a decent edge on Miller's skates in between periods).

Penalties: Todd Bertuzzi for an OBVIOUS board. I understand the NHL standard is sketchy at best regarding boarding and checking from behind, but you can't hit a guy from behind 2 ft. from the boards. The first thing that hit the glass was his face. At this point, my officiating spider sense started tingling, and I even twitched putting my arm in the air. No joke.

Current penalties: DET: 5 SJ: 4

Patrick Eaves tries to hacksaw a defender's hand off. The least he could have done was slash him low on the stick and make it LOOK like he was trying to play the puck (which was 50 ft. away at the time).

Current penalties: DET: 6 SJ: 4


Same overtone as previous 40 minutes. SJ dominating, Wings holding on by a thread. At the start of OT, I told my brother I would put money on the Red Wings losing the game.

Penalties: Red Wings get a 3-1 odd man rush. Abdelkader doesn't even get a shot on goal, and he expresses his anger by clipping Murray in the face with his stick. It's the right call, you split a guy open with a high stick, it's 4 minutes. No questions asked, no marginality to it, no "NHL conspiracy". You have a problem with it, keep your damn stick down. Problem solved.

Goals: Saw this one coming. The Red Wings, after successfully killing off the 4 minute power play, are pinned in their zone. Ferreiro puts a lazy shot on net, that hits a defenseman's stick and befuddles Jimmy Howard. Those are the kinds of goals that win OT games in the playoffs (I reference Burrows' knuckleball clapper to eliminate Chicago in Game 7 this week).


You get outshot 45-26 in the playoffs, you're not going to win many (if any) games. There were three people that showed up in white jerseys to play today, and they wore 5, 13, and 35.

The referees didn't screw anybody. Neither did the NHL. Neither of these entities have sticks in their hands, sticks that fired 46 shots in just under 70 minutes of play. The reason the Red Wings lost is the 20 guys in black jerseys that wanted it more, and were the more talented team tonight. So drop the conspiracy/poor officiating crap, before you give yourself an aneurysm. It's only hockey, after all.

Thank you, and good night.

#2161687 WCSF Game 1 GDT: Red Wings 1 at Sharks 2 (OT)

Posted by Nightfall on 30 April 2011 - 12:15 AM

Reffing aside, the Wings were not prepared for the Sharks tonight. The Sharks played better across the board. They had more shots, more scoring chances, and good puck luck tonight. Especially in the 2nd and 3rd periods. The refs didn't decide the game, the players did. The Wings only have themselves to blame for this loss. I suppose that Wings fans here will find the refs good targets to blame in a few embelleshed calls were the reason that the Sharks won that game. Look at the stats across the board first and you will see the truth.

Sharks led in shots 46-25 and had the puck in the offensive end for a bulk of the time in the 2nd and 3rd periods. Give the Sharks some credit. They came ready to play.

#2155864 WCQF Game 4 GDT: Red Wings 6 at Coyotes 3

Posted by Nightfall on 21 April 2011 - 12:42 PM

Gotta give Howard some credit too. He was a steady goalie. He didn't need to come up with game saving stops all the time, but he did have to play solid which he did. I was watching some of the goals he allowed and I can count one softie he probably should have had. The rest were deflections, uncovered players on the other side of the net, and so on. If the defense plays this well and the goaltending is solid, then the Wings are going to go far. Especially considering 13 different players scored in this series. Talk about depth!

Rest up Wings! 12 more to go!

#2153530 Sounds like more Versus/NBC for the next few years

Posted by Nightfall on 19 April 2011 - 12:31 PM

ESPN wouldn't shove the NHL down the throats of anyone.

You have to follow the money with the way ESPN treated the NHL when it was on. They simply do not give hockey enough attention to warrant such a substantial difference in a contract offer.

Hire Gary Thorne to NBC, and I guarantee you half of the criticisms of this deal would go away.

I agree with Doc Holliday.

I remember numerous occasions that the NHL games would be cut off if they went over their time or they wouldn't go over to the game if something else was going on. People here may not remember what it was like back then, but I was furious during the playoffs back in 1996 and 1997. I remember a few Wings games getting cut off for some golf tournament and there was no where else you could see the game. I know, just one example, but its a good one.

I was glad when Versus picked up the NHL. They give the NHL more exposure than ESPN ever did. Less homes? Thats fine. More specials, hockey shows, and so on is what I want to see. With the NHL Network now, I am a very happy camper.

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I want Gary Thorne!

NHL Home Ice on XM Radio had a great interview with Gary Thorne and Bill Clement together. Gary pretty much said his existing contract to do baseball was more lucrative and NBC and Versus couldn't pay him enough. ESPN did volunteer to let him out of his contract, but they sweetened the deal to keep him around. Who knows what the future holds though. He has not ruled out a return to broadcasting hockey. Gary also said that the thing he misses most about hockey is the playoffs. The two month run is nothing like anything else in sports.

I hope Gary returns as well.

#2152985 WCQF Game 3 GDT: Red Wings 4 at Coyotes 2

Posted by Nightfall on 18 April 2011 - 11:13 PM

Wow, the refs letting the players play. Wings with interference at the end of the period that was not called.

#2152948 WCQF Game 3 GDT: Red Wings 4 at Coyotes 2

Posted by Nightfall on 18 April 2011 - 11:09 PM

Another blatant interference.

I counted 2 times already that Detroit has done the same thing tonight. No complaint from the Wings fans when that happens though. Go figure.