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#2142885 4/6 GDT: Red Wings 0 at Hurricanes 3

Posted by Nightfall on 06 April 2011 - 08:29 PM

Yeah, that was a much, much better team back then.

How about 2007-08 then when they dropped 10 of 11 straight games.

Point is that crap happens in the regular season. The playoffs are a different animal. You should know that by now. The Wings may not go all the way this year, but I forsee a conference finals appearance this year.


#2142853 4/6 GDT: Red Wings 0 at Hurricanes 3

Posted by Nightfall on 06 April 2011 - 08:23 PM

I find it funny that people actually think this team is gonna turn a switch on for the post season. ****, ****...

They did in 2002 when they won 1 game in their last 10 and then lost the first two in the first round of the playoffs. Course, no one remembers that string of s*** performances.


#2142758 4/6 GDT: Red Wings 0 at Hurricanes 3

Posted by Nightfall on 06 April 2011 - 07:47 PM

Kamelåso.

Gesundheit!


#2142725 4/6 GDT: Red Wings 0 at Hurricanes 3

Posted by Nightfall on 06 April 2011 - 07:37 PM

Damn nice goal by Skinner. He deserves the Calder.


#2142697 4/6 GDT: Red Wings 0 at Hurricanes 3

Posted by Nightfall on 06 April 2011 - 07:20 PM

So close there Cleary. The puck just won't go in, seems like a shutout in progress for Ward

Game is only half over and you are conceding already? Wow, I must be on letsgowings.com.


#2140951 4/2 GDT: Red Wings 4 at Predators 3 (OT)

Posted by Nightfall on 02 April 2011 - 05:45 PM

I could go back and select at least 3-4 posts where you were just pretty much dumping. I didn't respond to to the first few but maybe I should have. And I'll clue you. I'm probably old enough to be your parent. We're both lucky I'm not.

And it is my usual habit to read the board after the game is over.

Welcome to LGW by the way.

The place where "true wings fans" dump on their team through the tough times and the non-cup winning years, and then take credit as true fans when they win. You sound surprised when you see this behavior. Hell, its commonplace around here.


#2139717 Believe

Posted by Nightfall on 31 March 2011 - 09:11 PM

Sounds to me like you need to quit confusing legitimate complaints about the team right now (and they do exist) and people who no longer have any interest in the Red Wings, or never had any to begin with. Who the hell died and left you the authority on who is and who is not a fan? I don't recall Matt or any of the other modmins bestowing you with that ability. It's rude and it's presumptuous. So knock it off.

Legit complaints I have no issue with. Declaring the team dead and buried is bandwagon talk. Just my .02 cents.

:rolleyes:

Oh brother.

Obviously, I forgot the sarcasm tags for people who are slow. Excuse that oversight.


#2139381 Believe

Posted by Nightfall on 31 March 2011 - 08:49 AM

Well put, Nightfall. I totally agree with you but that's the way it is unfortunately. When the sun's shining, there is really no better team or organization to root for. And I think that's where people fail to see how utterly ridiculous they sound when they sit there and blast out hyperbole and expect for others to read it with any credibility.

Just stop, please. This team hasn't looked hungry enough, I'll grant all of you that. Opinions are obviously something that this forum and site are all about, and for the most part you are all the most knowledgeable and passionate Red Wings fans I have heard from. You are all better than most that seem to lead you on and make it seem like the "cool thing" to do to just unload idiotic statements in regards to this team. I realize the "realists" in here are playing it safe because they can simply say "I told you so" when the time comes for the Wings to get axed in the playoffs and they can rejoice if we advance. Nothing changes, just keep in mind that supporting a team might be tough sometimes but being a bandwagoner, well, that's reserved for crap fanbases like Chicago. Don't liken yourselves to that.

I really cried when I read this. :clap:


#2139371 Believe

Posted by Nightfall on 31 March 2011 - 08:34 AM

I believe that the bandwagon fans will leave this forum and go somewhere else. I believe that those that are counting us out of the season should just cancel their accounts and go somewhere else. What a bunch of pansies. Seriously, one bad game and everyone is hitting the panic button? Oh, and one last thing....

I believe in the Red Wings. Always have, always will.


#2138133 Let's Talk About the Refereeing

Posted by Nightfall on 29 March 2011 - 10:09 AM

Why does everyone say that a game will be 3 hours longer if the officiating is fixed? That's such an overreaction to a very modest statement.

Nowhere did I say that every single play should be reviewable, so please don't put words in my mouth to make my comments sound absurd. All I said was that the replay system as it is now is very flawed. There is a very vague line as to what is reviewable, and what isn't. It is so flawed that sometimes simple plays take 10 minutes to review, instead of 30 seconds. Fixing the review system should make it faster, not longer. I never said every single play should be reviewable.

Ref homers like you love to jump to the argument that games will be hours longer if the review system is fixed, which is ridiculous. If anything, review improvements will speed up the game while also functioning as it should - to get the call correct.

Calm down cowboy. :D

I asked you to make some recommendations as to what you would change. I wasn't trying to put words in your mouth. So what changes would you make to the system to make it better and faster? You spoke a good line there, but offered no specifics. I am eagerly awaiting your reply.

Speaking of putting words in peoples mouths, I said it would be 30 minutes longer (total of 3 hours if you would have taken the opportunity to read what I wrote) not "hours longer" like you said. Also, calling me out to be a ref homer because I am looking to improve the game as well? Come on man. So I guess in the "putting words in your mouth" statement applies to you as well. Not that you will apologize for it....

Lets discuss how we can make reffing better here. At least I brought ideas to the table with specifics. :)


#2138116 Let's Talk About the Refereeing

Posted by Nightfall on 29 March 2011 - 09:09 AM

I have watched that Zetterberg play over and over, zero hook. None.

You have the benefit of slow motion and instant replay. If you really want to put yourself in a position of being a ref, follow these situations.

You are on the ice and see something happen. You have an instant to make a call or not make one. You have no benefit from instant replay. What do you do? Its all about perception. Odds are, if anyone is put in that situation, there are going to be good calls and bad calls. The Wings have benefitted and gotten screwed a couple times this season from both sides.

As a ref, there are sometimes I wish I had the ability to slow time down and rewind plays in my head. Then I would be the best ref in the game. :D


#2138111 Let's Talk About the Refereeing

Posted by Nightfall on 29 March 2011 - 08:21 AM

I have been a USA hockey referee for a few years now. Back when I first got my start, I can tell you that it was not as easy as I thought. I really enjoy it which is why I continue to do it. Perception is everything, and you won't catch everything that happens in the course of a game. Some things you do call will be totally wrong. Even the best referees in the world don't get every call right.

All these things being said, I have also found in my travels that the team that wins doesn't complain about the reffing as much as the team that loses. Sure, they both complain, but the one that gets the short end of the stick always complains. This is never going to change.

There are many calls the Wings have gotten where nothing has happened. All wings fans praise and love these calls. Others go against the Wings for nothing, and the fans ***** about the reffing and how its a conspiracy. So, let me get this straight. If a call goes for the Wings where the Wings didn't get tripped or just fall on accident, its ok. If a call goes against the Wings where someone fell and the Wings weren't involved, its reffing failure?

I don't subscribe to reffing conspiracy theories. There are going to be missed calls in the progression of the game. There are going to be calls that shouldn't be called in the progression of the game. Human beings are going to perceive things differently. Now that you have television in the mix where you can slow down and really analyze the play, every call can be questioned.

I believe the NHL has the best professional hockey refs. At the same time though, they perform like any other ref would perform. When the game is played at that high of a level, mistakes are going to happen. If the NHL was hell bent on fixing those mistakes, they would change the reffing system. For instance, one of the things they tried at the combine this year was one ref on the ice while the other ref is standing on a platform overlooking the glass. Both refs can call penalties. What they found was that the ref up high caught more legit penalties than the ref on the ice. I am all for a system like this to be honest with you, but the hockey purists would not be happy.

In closing, there are a couple things I want to point out....

1. I firmly believe before you get upset with the refs, you should put the stripes on and ref. It really opens your eyes to the world of refereeing and you will see, even at the rec league level, that it isn't as easy as you thought it would be. Even you will make mistakes, even after years of reffing.

2. I also firmly believe that the best team always wins in the end. The refs didn't screw the Wings out of the game last night. The Wings defense went to sleep on the two goals that Chicago scored in the game. The Wings were lucky to get to OT last night thanks to the bank shot off of the defenseman's skate.

3. As for the playoffs, I also believe that the best team wins a 7 game series. The refs may make a bad call which results in one team winning a game, but things always seem to work out. A team down 2-0 in a series will turn it on to make it a series if they want it bad enough. The refs don't decide 7 game series, the players do.

That is all....


#2135968 Jimmy Howard watch thread

Posted by Nightfall on 25 March 2011 - 07:46 PM

It's more like proof that posts can be easily dismissed by some people.

Goaltending is always going to be a question mark to people in Detroit. You name any goalie in our last 4 cup championship teams, and all of them have been under the magnifying glass. Even after they win a cup, no respect is given to them. This is the way it is always going to be in Detroit. Even last year when Howard was solid in net and helping us get into the playoffs, people here and other Wings fans I know never gave him any credit. Today, its no different. If Howard plays amazing, it is what he is supposed to do. Anything less, and its horrible. Being as that no goalie plays at that high of a level every game, there is no goalie who is good enough to goaltend in Detroit.


#2135955 Jimmy Howard watch thread

Posted by Nightfall on 25 March 2011 - 06:34 PM

You should change your user name to Howard He Don't Do It.

Although the defense has been subpar, I don't think they're leaving him out to dry anymore than other teams are with their netminders. He's near last in the league in GAA and save % for starting goalies. I don't think our defense is the "worst" in hockey, to deserve those numbers. Last year there wasn't much pressure on him, so he did well. However, this season, he's shown that he can't handle the pressure of being the goalie in Hockeytown.

This post is just further proof that according to some Wings fans no goalie is good enough to goaltend in Detroit.


#2135463 3/23 GDT: Canucks 2 at Red Wings 1

Posted by Nightfall on 23 March 2011 - 10:51 PM

Not very much hockey left. :(

Maybe if you are rooting for the Edmonton Oilers. The Wings are in the playoffs you know. :D

you want some more depressing stats?

in the last 51 games:

regulation: 17 wins, 18 losses
OT: 5 wins, 4 losses
SO: 4 wins, 3 losses

how about them wings?

:thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown:

The Vancouver Canucks could use a fan like you right now. Why don't you go cheer for them? :P