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#1981134 WCSF Game 5 GDT: Red Wings 1 at Sharks 2

Posted by Nightfall on 08 May 2010 - 11:17 PM

The refs are losing control of this game. Murray just got nailed, no call. This is how players get hurt.

#1981114 WCSF Game 5 GDT: Red Wings 1 at Sharks 2

Posted by Nightfall on 08 May 2010 - 11:15 PM

I think its safe to say the the refs had a DIRECT impact on that goal. Anyone who argues otherwise is an idiot, yes it was a turnover but the play should have never been in our end.

The Wings being slopping in their own zone was the reason why they scored. The refs were not involved, unfortunately. Put the blame where it belongs, on the Wings.

#1980731 WCSF Game 5 GDT: Red Wings 1 at Sharks 2

Posted by Nightfall on 08 May 2010 - 10:20 PM

***** less about the reffing. The Wings have to be good enough to overcome them. There are so many ways the Wings can improve in this game and so far they are barely getting by.

#1978078 WCSF Game 4 GDT: Sharks 1 at Red Wings 7

Posted by Nightfall on 06 May 2010 - 07:09 PM

agreed babs should bench him this is just despicable

I think Dat should just stop posting until he eats some crow.

#1976390 What I'm worried about

Posted by Nightfall on 05 May 2010 - 09:09 AM

You can't win a Stanley Cup every year. There are 30 teams in the league. 16 of them make the playoffs. You have teams that have drafted smart and those that buy free agents. Chemistry is a huge factor in the playoffs as well. Sometimes teams strike gold with players who work well with each other. In the end, they crown one champion. I think its hard to hold Ken Holland and the Red Wings to lofty expectations, especially in the salary cap world. The Wings are going to be competitive, but they won't make it to the cup finals every year. They may not even make the playoffs in the next 5 years or so.

I think a lot of Wings fans feel they are entitled to a championship every year. Which is why the refs are being blamed heavily. After all, the Wings are unstoppable! The only one that can stop them is Gary Bettmen [/sarcasm]! What Wings fans have to understand is that the Wings brass will always try to get a championship caliber team together, but it isn't going to work out every year. Some years will be better than others.

Case in point, look at the last six championship teams. The Devils? Tampa Bay? Carolina? The Ducks? Red Wings? Pens? Its a vicious cycle and teams cannot stay at the top for long. The Devils continue to make playoffs but haven't been past the first round in years. Tampa Bay has missed the playoffs more in the last six years than making them. Carolina had a good playoff run last year, but didn't even make it this year. The Ducks have been hit or miss as well. The Wings have made the playoffs every season, and have had varied success. Even the Pens have had their share of playoff disappointment before winning the cup last season.

The Wings will be a threat, and will challenge for the cup for a while. What I don't expect is for them to fall off the face of the earth like some of these cup winning teams. I think the Wings have made the playoffs for 16 consecutive years or something like that. That will end, like all records do eventually, but the management has made a commitment to spending to the cap and competing for a championship every year. The players they bring in buy into that as well.

#1976381 There are 7 games in a series

Posted by Nightfall on 05 May 2010 - 08:57 AM

Well, thankfully it isn't up to us. If Mindfly and other pessimists were in charge of the team, they probably wouldn't even show up to Game 4 and just forfeit. From a personal standpoint, if I was down 3-0, I would come out and play a hard fought game and hold my head high when the game is over. No sense of crying over spilled milk. Come out and give it your best shot and leave it all on the ice.

#1975958 There are 7 games in a series

Posted by Nightfall on 04 May 2010 - 10:39 PM

Seems like most people have forgotten, there are 7 games in a playoff series. It's first to 4 wins, not 3. Obviously the odds are VERY LOW, but it is STILL POSSIBLE. I think we have the skill to pull off a miracle. How about you guys?


I am with you. Its time for the Wings to put it all on the line. GO WINGS!

#1975502 WCSF Game 3 GDT: Sharks 4 at Red Wings 3

Posted by Nightfall on 04 May 2010 - 09:40 PM

Wings have no one to blame but themselves. Lazy play in the 3rd and OT doesn't win you games.

#1975163 WCSF Game 3 GDT: Sharks 4 at Red Wings 3

Posted by Nightfall on 04 May 2010 - 09:02 PM

Game isn't over yet! LETS GO WINGS!

#1975144 WCSF Game 3 GDT: Sharks 4 at Red Wings 3

Posted by Nightfall on 04 May 2010 - 09:00 PM

Thats horrible. Utterly horrible.

I thought the goals that Ozzie let in during the 98 playoffs were bad.

#1975083 WCSF Game 3 GDT: Sharks 4 at Red Wings 3

Posted by Nightfall on 04 May 2010 - 08:54 PM

I got lambasted for saying it once, but I am saying it again.

First period, the Wings played great. Same with the second period.

This period, they are coasting.

If the Wings want to win consistently then they need to play for a full 60 minutes. They haven't done that since game 7 of the Phoenix series.

#1974606 WCSF Game 3 GDT: Sharks 4 at Red Wings 3

Posted by Nightfall on 04 May 2010 - 07:26 PM

Wings came out with a great effort.

Hard work? Check
Intensity? High
Determination? Check
Hustle? Check

Wings need to keep this up! Nice job Wings!

#1972404 WCSF Game 2 GDT: Red Wings 3 at Sharks 4

Posted by Nightfall on 03 May 2010 - 12:49 PM

i think a lot of the frustration coming from the TEAM's fans has less to do with "bandwagonism", and more to do with feeling disenchanted with the league itself.

i can admit that the TEAM made mistakes last night. the officiating alone is not to blame. faceoffs lost, frustrations surfaced, and the long and short is, the TEAM that i love wound up losing. that is fact.

last night, i was not only embarassed for my TEAM, i was embarassed for the league. honestly, i've seen better officiating in the KHL. that, also, is fact.

i still and always will support my red wings, but i think last night was a black eye for the league in which they play.

now, am i a bandwagoner?


This is why you play a 7 game series though. In a best of 7 games, the best team moves on. Sure, the refs may call things your way one game, and the bounces go against you the next. In the end though, the best team moves on.

I saw 4 bad calls last night. Three against the Wings. If I saw that in half the games I watched, I would feel as you do. Still, after a single game or a handful of games you are disenchanted with the league? Here is a news flash for you, there are a lot of other fans who feel the same way as you do. If there is anything that I have learned since I started reffing, its that the the team that wins NEVER complains about the officiating. The team that loses almost always complains about it.

I believe the NHL has some of the best officials in all major sports. For as fast as the game is moving, they do an excellent job. If the Wings won last night and the Sharks were screwed with penalties, how many complaints would you see here? Very very little, if any.

Now you're just becoming a smartass and cannot be taken seriously on any level. Why are you still here?

I'm thinking you might want to go in on team sweatshirts with Rat as far as the Smart Ass thing? Just suggesting...

Yea, I know. I was being a smart ass. :)

#1971838 WCSF Game 2 GDT: Red Wings 3 at Sharks 4

Posted by Nightfall on 02 May 2010 - 10:28 PM

Part to blame is on the Wings. If they would have pushed it all the game, they wouldn't be called for phantom calls. The Sharks were putting pressure and the refs were calling everything. It was sort of like a "kick em while they are done" moment. If the wings would have played like they are capable of, the penalties would have been the other way. It is nof****** conspiracy.

You might want to stop saying things like this while you can. The overall conspiracy theorists and people blaming the refs gives a lot of LGW nation a certain comfort zone. See, the Wings can come out with a crap effort then, and its easy to point the finger at something else. Bettman is a great target for criticism too, even though the Wings are not playing for a full 60 minutes without intense passion or hunger.

Good to hear from true Wings fans out there such as yourself that have a grasp of the obvious and actually know hockey.

#1971818 WCSF Game 2 GDT: Red Wings 3 at Sharks 4

Posted by Nightfall on 02 May 2010 - 10:24 PM

How does that change all the terrible calls? You don't think the game's outcome was seriously affected by the refs? ARE YOU HIGH?

I believe the games outcome is decided by the players. So far, in this series, we have not seen the Wings team that came to play in game 7 of the Phoenix series. No desperation. No hunger. No passion. Where are these qualities? Did the refs take these qualities from them? I seriously think they took a flight back to detroit while the team went to San Jose.

San Jose is getting more chances because they are the hungrier team. Until Detroit comes out and matches that effort for a full 60 minutes, they are not going to beat this team or any other team in the playoffs on a consistent basis.

So you tell me, who is more high here? The guy bitching about the refs saying the games outcome was seriously affected by the refs or the guy saying that the Wings need a strong consistent effort for a full 60 minutes?

Ah well, I am heading to bed. As much as I am disappointed with the 4 obvious crap calls I saw in the game (3 against the Wings and 1 against the Sharks), what tires me more are the Wings fans that are jumping off the bandwagon like lemmings off a cliff.