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#2065733 11/19 GDT: Wild 4 at Red Wings 3 (OT)

Posted by Nightfall on 19 November 2010 - 10:10 PM

Win as a team, lose as a team. Goaltending was not great. Defense was not great. Our top line was not great either. Anyone blaming goaltending alone is an idiot. Blame the crap effort as a whole.

#2054061 10/28 GD: Coyotes 4 at Red Wings 2

Posted by Nightfall on 28 October 2010 - 07:15 PM

Nobody can say that Mickey is a biased commentator. He sounds like a Coyotes color guy tonight.

No one listens to Mickey anyway. If they did, they would have heard Mickey say the first goal was not Osgoods fault. The second goal was not Osgoods fault. The third goal MIGHT have been deflected. Course, Mickey is the best announcer according to Wings fans. Just not when it comes to commenting on how the Wings goaltending wasn't at fault or how bad their team is playing.

#2050507 10/21 GDT: Flames 2 at Red Wings 4

Posted by Nightfall on 21 October 2010 - 09:02 PM

I agree with Mickey. Howard was outstanding in this game. He looks like he did at the end of last season.

#2049538 Rypien suspended 6 games

Posted by Nightfall on 20 October 2010 - 09:58 AM

A couple videos on the incident. The first one the commentators say the fan touched him, which is incorrect.

Another perspective. These commentators know whats going on.

#2047574 We need...

Posted by Nightfall on 15 October 2010 - 05:41 PM

I agree with you 100%. As a true fan of the Red Wings, I can tell you that there are parts of me that want to not come back to these forums. Mainly because of the attitude of some of the posters here. I regularly talk with Wings fans at lunch and have better conversations with them than I do with posters here. I guess a lot of it has to do with the fact that many internet posts can be brutal. People speak their minds, and with anonymity, truly nice people can turn into morons quickly.

I lay it out a lot like you do.

1. The management deserves our full support. If not for the consecutive postseason appearances, but for the tradition of winning that has been built.

2. The players deserve our full support. No player is going to be a top line player like Lidstrom for 20 years. Even he is not immune from the negativity, which surprises me. I guess all it took was one non-Norris trophy like season for the commoners to turn on our captain. Anyway, every player deserves to be supported. They all play their hearts out and to chew into them for their mistakes or belittle them is really dumb.

That isn't to say that conversation shouldn't happen. Sure, anyone can ask the question if "player A should be signed" or "player B didn't play well". What is just wrong are the attacks against players, management, and ownership from moronic fans. Case in point, look at the "need a goalie" post. Osgood has sucked the last 3 years? 2008 was one of his best seasons! Talk about uninformed and dumb just because of that fact.

A majority of posters in these forums are not true Wings fans. They are what I would call bandwagoners. The instant that the team falls on hard times, these posters will be joining up on the Sharks or Hawks forums and claiming that they are fans. Just watch. All it will take is one bad season to make it happen. I certainly hope that doesn't happen, but I suppose there is an advantage if it does happen. Look at the Tampa Bay Lightning. When they won the Stanley Cup, everyone was a Lightning fan. I have a friend who has been a season ticket holder to the Lightning since they started playing. At the start, it was the ticket to have in Tampa Bay, and the general hockey knowledge was pretty low. After the Stanley Cup run, he would describe it as one of the most uninformed hockey fanbase he had ever known. Fans would ride the players and be non-supportive if they weren't doing well. Today, its a great time to be a hockey fan in Tampa Bay because the team is playing well, Yzerman is in charge, and the base of fans is small but they are die hard fans who support the team. That, IMHO, is the best time to be a real fan of the team.

Ah well, I have said enough.

All the really successful sports teams have the most neurotic fans.

Fans have the right to think what they want. They don't "owe" the team anything really. The team provides fans with entertainment, while fans provide teams and owners with actual revenue, which goes into player salaries.

LGW is actually more fun with neurotic threads. Go to a Panthers or Thrashers board, and see how many people give a damn there. Not many, hence not as interesting a discussion board.

This is very true. Without the common idiots, it really is not entertaining to go to forums and read the posts.

#2045911 10/12 GDT: Avalanche 5 at Red Wings 4 (SO)

Posted by Nightfall on 13 October 2010 - 12:30 PM

Lol @ the bickering in this thread. It's one game (3rd in the season) and a SO loss. Who cares....

Furthermore, Avs are a good young hockey club that showed tons a resilience and wanted the win more.

100% correct.

A vast majority of Wings fans in here are very fickle. If the team wins, all is good with most people here. If the team loses, the refs, Bettman, Howard, Ozzie, Bert, 3rd liners, and everyone else under the sun is singled out. Its just tiring to hear over and over again. I swear that I get more intelligent hockey posts from the Wings fans on the HFBoards following a loss.

#2044852 Kirk Maltby to announce he is retiring

Posted by Nightfall on 12 October 2010 - 03:08 PM

Thanks Nightfall. I was around when the Wings weren't making the playoffs every year and I remember when we made the playoffs in 1988. I just remember how excited I was ( I was only 9), I thought then that this team was going to do something special, then followed up the next year with 19 wins and didn't even sniff the playoffs and I wondered what was next. We all now what happened, but I always kept the faith in this team. I think may people on this board were not around during the DeadWings era, because if they were, we would not see these crazy comments about players like Malts and Drapes and yes, Even Lidstrom (which just baffles me)!

I will always remember Maltby in the playoffs, right when we needed a big goal, everyone would pick Stevie, Shanny, Kozlov, Feds, ect and who ended up with a goal..... Kirk Maltby! As far as I'm concerned, Malts was one of the best faces of the organization that there ever was. Will the #18 go to the rafters, probably not, but he will always be at the top of the lists of players with the biggest heart and dedication. We'll miss you Malts!! GO WINGS!!

Thank you man.

Your post reminded me just how much of a new fan I am compared to those who were around in the 70-80s when they were called the "dead wings". I didn't get exposed to hockey until 1994 when I went to college at Ferris State. As of that moment when I went to a live college hockey game, I was hooked. I started watching the Wings that season, and getting swept in the finals by the Devils was horrible to experience.

You are right, the older fans of the team who have been around for a while have a whole new appreciation for members of the team who gave so much. Things like loyalty are hard to find in sports these days. In the working world, if someone gets cut from their job, its distasteful and backstabbing to do. In the sports world, if someone gets cut from a team, its a necessity because they want the team to win, win, and win some more. I want to win just as much as every other Wings fan. At the same time though, I praise the loyalty of the Wings organization.

#2044764 Kirk Maltby to announce he is retiring

Posted by Nightfall on 12 October 2010 - 12:40 PM

So... Maltby what was the point of signing a contract if you was just going to retire?

Draper is probably a lot closer to retirement than he wants to admit.

Draper should follow suit

When I read some of the posts in this thread, I am just appalled. Here is a guy that gave his heart and soul to the organization. He was a penalty killer and a grind liner. You don't win four Stanley Cups by accident. Detroit knew what they had here and they treated him well for many years. In return, he gave everything he had to the organization.

Yet, some of the fans on this forum piss on him and other players. Even Lidstrom is a target by some people, which is disgusting being as that we are all fans of the Red Wings here. This isn't the HFboards where there are asshats a plenty out there that like to start flame wars with other teams and fans.

I expect people here will be supportive of their Red Wings and the management. After all, they deserve to have our support being as that they haven't missed the playoffs in 25 of the last 27 seasons and the last 19 in a row. The players have shown that they care about playing in Detroit by giving it their all season after season after season.

Here is Maltby, a player who has given it their all for years. 75% of the posts here have the right attitude, which is supportive and remembering what Maltby brought to the table. The rest of the posters here are true morons. If not for the fact that they don't remember what Maltby did for the organization, but because he is a Red Wing. He will take a job in the front office because the Red Wings care about their players and the players care about playing here. I don't see this kind of commitment from many organizations out there.

Support your Red Wings guys. They are your team. If you don't like the team, go bandwagon on the Sharks and Hawks. I heard they need more fans on the bandwagon these days.

Happy retirement Maltby! You will be missed.

#2044613 Wisniewski makes obscene gesture towards Avery

Posted by Nightfall on 12 October 2010 - 08:40 AM

this just goes on to support my idea of uncensored NHL hockey on a "requested channel"

that would rock!

miked up benches....trash talking....unabashed interviews.

yeah....sign me up.

of course, i'm in dreamland about this.


I would love to see an uncensored sports channel. Then you can see all these things throughout every sport. I would subscribe to this in a heartbeat as well.

#2043486 10/9 GDT: Red Wings 3 at Blackhawks 2

Posted by Nightfall on 09 October 2010 - 09:10 PM

Yea 6-0 would actually be the score but i didnt want to shock anyone

Howard scoring 4 goals? :D

#2043468 10/9 GDT: Red Wings 3 at Blackhawks 2

Posted by Nightfall on 09 October 2010 - 09:07 PM

Because irrational Wings fans trumps common sense.

And you know the season's begun when my ignore list starts accumulating honorees. :P

Fixed it for you.

#2043459 10/9 GDT: Red Wings 3 at Blackhawks 2

Posted by Nightfall on 09 October 2010 - 09:03 PM

Weak osgood :/

Can we not have Osgood play anymore?

Terribly timed goals.

Not Osgoods fault. It hit Salei and changed direction. Can't blame the goalie when he centers himself to the shot and yet it hits one of his own guys and goes a different direction and in.

So far, I can't fault Osgood on a blown defensive assignment that results in a goal or a deflection goal. These are the goals that your team has to fight through.

#2038397 NHL Gamecenter

Posted by Nightfall on 30 September 2010 - 12:30 AM

You are confusing shared servers to dedicated servers. But go ahead and keep on thinking that Hockeystreams.com is streaming these videos and spending their time and risking getting caught for $0-dollar profit. They are doing illegal activities to serve you, the viewer, for free. And go ahead and keep on thinking they are only charging you what it costs them in bandwidth. Lol @ how naive people truly are. Just mind-blowing.

And remind me to never do business where you "contract on the ISP side". /facepalm.

Dedicated servers and shared servers have nothing to do with the conversation. Its all about the ISP. Who says I am thinking that they are only charging for bandwidth or that he is only doing it for free? I don't think anyone is that dumb, and since I never said that, you can stop drawing conclusions to try to make yourself look righteous. As for you doing business where I work on the ISP side, you are probably safe there unless you do business in MI and stream a ton of video. From your knowledge and experience, you obviously don't do that. Otherwise, you would have been down that road as I have with many customers.

I would like to have a good natured conversation with you about this if you are interested. Lets take it to PM though. The conversation is way off topic.

#2038341 NHL Gamecenter

Posted by Nightfall on 29 September 2010 - 09:45 PM

I already proved you wrong on the first point. I even sourced it from some random hosting service. One can even build a server in their own home or office if they so desire. It's not that complicating if you possess basic understanding. Not sure why this is so hard for you to understand?

I can point out a lot of providers who say "unlimited" bandwidth, but when push comes to shove, they will not allow you to push that much. Residential broadband providers and hosted solutions may say "unlimited" but when you start pushing a lot through the provider, you will find your account suspended or canceled. True unlimited bandwidth costs are astronomical. If you knew the industry and how shared hosting works, you would understand that.

I guess we will have to agree to disagree. I know how the industry works and know companies that have lost hosting privileges because of excessive bandwidth when the provider false advertises, and you can find a lot of providers who say unlimited.

#2038229 NHL Gamecenter

Posted by Nightfall on 29 September 2010 - 07:32 PM

And I've built servers from the ground up and sold bandwidth. What's your point? They will support thousands of users. The facts remain the same, that website is selling intellectual property. Are you going to argue that it's not illegal now because you are an FBI agent and a Judge? :blink:

I am not arguing the intellectual property rights at all. I was merely correcting you in that the bandwidth costs are not a concern. If you want to change the subject in order to make a valid point so it makes you look right, then thats great. You can find someone else to debate with on that topic.