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#2572434 Pavel Datsyuk demos Shooter Tutor

Posted by TheXym on 19 February 2015 - 08:42 AM

Cool vid, thanks for the link. Sometimes we just need to sit back and realize how blessed we have been as Wings fans to watch players like Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Lidstrom, and Yzerman on an almost daily basis over the years.

#2568962 Wings-Avs alumni game speculation

Posted by Jersey Wing on 06 February 2015 - 03:47 PM

He's so excited for the alumni game vs Detroit, Peter Forsberg has been seen in pools all over Sweden practicing his diving...


*drops mic, walks off stage*

#2567040 1/29 GDT - Red Wings 1 at Lightning 5

Posted by GoalieManPat on 29 January 2015 - 09:25 PM

As long as Petr and the team uses it as a learning experience and comes back hard against the Islanders this game can give some benefit.

#2566647 1/27 GDT : Red Wings 5 at Panthers 4

Posted by kipwinger on 28 January 2015 - 10:02 PM


Why use his career average?  It's not like he's put up around the same number of points since he entered the league.  His first few seasons are not why he got that contract.  


He's at .67 PPG this season (Nevermind that he's also a -12 and half his points are on the PP).  


The previous four seasons his PPG were .76, .76, .73 and .72.   It's a small sample size, but it is also a significant drop.  It is not made up.


I don't know if he's streakier or not overall but prior to his injury, he had 1 goal in 20 games.  


And it goes beyond points.  You can't quantify his disappearing act by points.  Players often factor in games without showing up on the scoresheet.  There's so many games that go by where you don't even notice Franzen, and that shouldn't happen with someone of his talent.  Guys like Sheahan and Tatar regularly factor into games more than Mule, even when they don't score.


He's scoring at .67 ppg despite a pretty big slump (as you point out).  He's gone through those before.  Nothing about his play this year led me to believe that he wouldn't end with right around 55 pts.  Which is usual for him.  I dont' see some big, qualitative difference in his play.  He was doing what he does every year.  


I agree, lots of people factor into games even when they don't score.  Those guys are better than Franzen.  And it's because of those guys that he's no longer necessary.  But he is what he's always been.  The only difference between then and now is that we no longer rely on him as much.  But quite a lot of people here have said, or implied, that his performance is worse this year than in years past.  I just don't see it.  If Nyquist and Tatar (and Abby to a lesser extent) hadn't emerged into go-to guys, Franzen would have been glued to Zetterberg or Datsyuk's wing like he always is, and his PPG probably wouldn't even have dipped at all.   

#2566589 1/27 GDT : Red Wings 5 at Panthers 4

Posted by krsmith17 on 28 January 2015 - 02:18 PM

gcom077, I agree. But the reason I believe in these kids, isn't because of highly touted they were on draft day, and not because we found some late round gems. Sure we have great scouts, but more than that, we know how to develop players. Not a single player is ever given anything, every inch has to be earned. That is why our young guys like Nyquist, Tatar, Sheahan, etc. are playing so well, and that is why I believe that guys like Mantha, Athanasiou, Sproul, etc. will be able to step in and make an impact right away. They're not being rushed into the NHL and they are learning how to do things the Red Wing way, down in Grand Rapids. I don't think our kids would be as good as they are today if they didn't spend so much time down in Grand Rapids rounding out their game. I also think Jurco may have been rushed in a little too soon, and his development has been stunted a little. I think he will be fine, but some more time with the Griffins could have done him some good.

#2565577 Mantha Still Hopes to Play in Detroit This Season

Posted by daniel1 on 22 January 2015 - 02:53 PM

Can't see it; unless we have 3 or 4 guys go down and even then I would think Callahan or Ferraro is ahead of him development wise. I would say patience is prudent with him. Coming off an injury, adapting to a league of men rather than boys, and his first real taste of pro hockey. Lots of adjustments; let's just leave him alone to find his game and when he starts leading his team/league in a couple years like Teemu has done then we can bring him up for a taste. This method has worked well for us in the past, (Tatar, Nyquist, Sheehan) so let's not break the mold or rush this kid. We need him to develop into a 1st line scorer, not a 3rd liner.

#2565535 Stadium series Wings vs Avs 2016!

Posted by ogreslayer on 22 January 2015 - 11:27 AM

Great.  Can't wait to see what abomination they come up with to use as the jerseys...
On a related note, the Kings will wear white pants for this year's Stadium Series, the first team since the 1974 Washington Capitals to do so...


That so looks like a toddler's onesie to me

#2564200 1/18 GDT : Sabres 4 at Red Wings 6 (Z w/Hat Trick)

Posted by puckloo39 on 18 January 2015 - 11:13 AM

Great that they keep playing Mraz!  He's a kid, and he LOVES this -- he's not tired.   Go, Petr!!


We need two points here, no excuses, boys!  Let's go, Red Wings!!


PS - Pookie needs a goal tonight --  just  do it, Teemu!

#2564199 1/18 GDT : Sabres 4 at Red Wings 6 (Z w/Hat Trick)

Posted by krsmith17 on 18 January 2015 - 11:09 AM

Mrazek is getting the start again tonight.

#2564207 1/17 GDT : Predators 2 at Red Wings 5

Posted by WingsallTheway on 18 January 2015 - 11:34 AM


And, tbh, he's our AHL goalie so not really our regular back up.

Good job boys!  Congrats Petr, you're playing awesome!


To be fair, Petr isn't the standard AHL goalie. 


This guy is a gem and will 100% be our starter eventually. 

#2563023 Franzen on IR

Posted by F.Michael on 13 January 2015 - 09:11 PM

Like I said before... It was 6f****** years ago... Get over it...


Every GM makes mistakes and that was clearly one of Holland's. Difference between Kenny and the other 29 general managers is that his mistakes are a lot more few and far between.

Sorry.....Watching Franzen play sorta reminds me that we could've had Hossa.

#2562784 MLive : Howard out at least 2-4 weeks with "slight groin tear"

Posted by krsmith17 on 12 January 2015 - 10:57 PM

I know the difference between the AHL and the NHL is pretty significant for any position, especially for a goaltender. But McCollum has been playing great down in Grand Rapids so far this season, he actually has better numbers than Mrazek. I'm not saying McCollum would hold his own at the NHL level or even that he would play well, but some are acting like there's no chance and that he is doomed for failure. And why? Because he had a terrible outing 4 years ago in a blowout game against the Blues that they already had lost?... Give me a break. I hope McCollum gets a chance to start a game and gets the W, if for no other reason but to keep his confidence up with the Griffs, and of course to prove the naysayers wrong.....

#2562783 Franzen on IR

Posted by GoWings1905 on 12 January 2015 - 10:56 PM

Hossa and Franzen were both offered contracts.  Hossa dicked around, Franzen signed.  A mule in the hand is worth a Czech in the bush.  Not only that, but at the time Hossa's extra cap hit would have cost the Wings another player or two.  Since that time, looking at points an goals per game, compared to cap hit, Franzen is the better value.


I would gladly take Hossa's slightly higher cap hit when you factor in everything else he does that makes him worth more money than Franzen. Hossa is an elite two-way forward. He has obviously slowed down some from six years ago, but so has his counterpart. Even if it cost the Wings another player or two, we are still talking about Marian Hossa. He scored 40 goals and the Wings haven't had anyone hit 30 since. 


Imagine Hossa for all these years on Pavel's wing instead of Bertuzzi, Abdelkader, Helm, etc. It would have completely changed the dynamic of the team. 

#2562727 Mixed Feelings - Shea Weber whoops Matt Cooke

Posted by krsmith17 on 12 January 2015 - 06:22 PM

I agree gcom007. I'm actually a huge fan of Weber despite what he did to Zetterberg. I'm sure Hank is over it, so I think it's time for fans to get over it...

#2562184 Osgood circa 2008 *Mod Advisory @ #18*

Posted by F.Michael on 10 January 2015 - 12:52 AM

i seriously don't remember anyone blaming Cujo. Was it the media or just fans?

Huge hype.


Cujo leaving  a very good Maple Leafs for the Red Wings, and with Dom retiring just after winning it all in 2002.....Cujo had some big shoes to fill.

It was a lot of both that I recall. And then the whole Hasek fiasco just made things worse. In my opinion, that goalie controversy was the worst management in memory, regarding the Wings



That was a total clusterf*** created by Holland.