Pav is my favorite player of all time. He deserves to have someone to play with. The guy is still so dominant. Get him someone really good to play with and who knows maybe he re-signs for a couple more years.
I'd rather lose a first and a good prospect for a star player plus two more years of pav playing with that star player
This is why I could see the benefit of going for it now and leveraging your future a bit. We're going to be a competitive team most nights that we have Pavs and Z in the lineup, so while we have the benefit still of having these guys in the lineup, why not put the best team we can together right now and go for it. Strike while the iron's hot. After all, even if Dats stays, he's not getting any younger. Nor is Z, and his back is likely to slow him down faster than Datsyuk as well.
People say we should be happy because we're a playoff team still and that's the new thing in the cap era, but we're a playoff team because we still have two of the best players in the world at the core of this team. Does anyone truly believe this team is even close to a playoff team if Datsyuk were to leave or Z has a long term injury, considering that even with these guys, most anyone with half a brain realizes we're overachieving this year with this lineup, not to mention the absurd injury streak (though I'm not convinced that the injuries haven't actually helped us...).
But anyways, if we're a playoff team largely because we're still building around Dats and Z, there's certainly an argument to be made that we could move back to contender status a lot easier than some seem to think. It's more than one or two deals; we're not a "Shanahan" away and it's not 1997. But what one or two deals we make now or maybe could've made over the summer might have been the difference in deals made right now.
What people keep failing to recognize is that a deal or two made last summer might've been the difference between leveraging a great deadline deal for someone like Iginla and not even being on Iginla's list of teams. Like it or not, we live in a "what have you done for me lately?" world, and it's becoming all the more true in the cap era of hockey. And while to us, that last Cup series which we barely lost doesn't seem so long ago, four teams have won the Cup since we last won it, and two of those four teams in particular keep finding ways to go for it in the Hawks and Pens. But you hear people talk about how the cap will get them and or about the Crosby/Malkin and Kane/Toews advantages, seemingly ignoring the fact that we still have a very real Dats and Z advantage. And the Pens and Hawks have had to make tough decisions and continually work around the cap, they keep finding a way to go for it. They are perceived as teams that are out there to win, and they have a core in place that attracts talent. In my mind, Holland really should've been doing this while he still had Lidstrom, as the team had far more potential to be a contender while #5 was still with us. We might've been one or two deals away at that point.
The big difference between our team and theirs is that our management seems scared to go for it, continually putting off making moves citing either the cap, "leveraging the future," or waiting for the "much better free agent market next summer" that has been MIA since Holland first brought it up back in 2009 I believe. This year it's the cap decrease and the inevitable buyouts. Wonderful logic there, by the way. It's about as brilliant as those who think we can trade our scraps for stars. Everyone wants and expects us to buyout Sammy. What kind of players do you think other teams are going to be buying out?!?!? Overpaid, mid-level, aging clunkers. Depth level guys at best, and clearly, we have more than enough depth guys. Tangents... In any event, something always seems to come up that forces us to come up with the next "next year it makes way more sense to go shopping" scenario. Other teams make more dramatic moves to swipe the talent up, or guys sign with other teams, or it just boils down to Holland muttering something that's started sounding about as logical as "the rent is too damn high."
At this point, given what has become of the situation and what seems to be our inability to land anyone noteworthy via trade or free agency, I'm not convinced it wouldn't be better to just sell off what we have, sink in the standings for a couple of years to get some decent picks, and stock up through the draft. Considering we've got a descent farm system and group of young guys ready to come up, we might be in a better position to trade picks and prospects for legit NHL talent when we have a plethora of it. This is all the more true if there's any truth to the rumors about Datsyuk heading back to Russia after next year, and if Holland doesn't really have a strong hint one way or the other, he's not doing his job. He needs to be dealing with that situation if it's a situation, one way or the other, much sooner rather than later. We already know he's not good at dealing with big player departures later. It meant one thing with Lidstrom when this team still had Dats and Z, but in this situation, with no one coming close to replacing holes left by Lidstrom, Rafalski, or Stuart and then you have to deal with losing Dats too, it might not mean find a replacement so much as stock up on as many draft picks as you can over the next few years.
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