I'm just going to blame NBC for everything that went wrong tonight, namely Reimer.
But I'll blame Howard for the shootout. The guy's been really damn good this year, no doubt, but for the love, it just seems like he is about as bad as they come in the shootout. I could be wrong, as I don't pay much attention to shootout stats for him and other goalies, but we sure seem to get the short end of the stick in the shootout when he's in net more often than not.
"I know some (people) were saying that we don't have a shot for a playoff (spot), but I'm surprised you can say it with the big names in this locker room," Tatar said. "If we stay healthy we might actually have a shot at the (Stanley) Cup."
How do you not like this guy?
******* love it. That's the kind of confidence we need. Here's to hoping a full year up for some of these guys and a 2nd year for others will help them become more ready for the playoffs, but they've got to be feeling great about their chances right now. More often than not thus far, they've gone out every night and given themselves a chance to win against any team and done so. This is not the sputtering Red Wings of the last few years. This team has swagger, and this team is learning how to finish. This is why I like our chances and why I don't want to rock the boat with trades.
Yeah, I definitely don't want to make it seem like we NEED to trade or anything. I'm just saying we've got the pieces to make something happen if we decide to make a push for a Cup. And as good as this team is playing, I'm not sure why you wouldn't make that push. There's no telling whether you're going to get this kind of play out of Dats, Z, Franzen, Kronwall, going forward. It seems like we've got the absolutely perfect mix of youth and veteran presence. A little tweaking and we're elite. I'd upgrade that Helm wing position, and get that right shot d-man (who's also a powerplay QB), and I think we're dominant.
But, it would be hard to blame Holland for sitting tight. This team is pretty good without any moves at all. Although, sooner or later we're going to lose some of these prospects anyway, so why not use them to make a push?
We've still got a lot more offensive power than defensive. If we're going to make a move, we really ought to save the pieces for a defenseman. Dats and Tats might slow down, but maybe Nyqvist, Z, and Franzen will pick up then, for example. Weiss is getting things going fast now that he's a regular. And hell, we've still got a few tricks we could potentially pull out of GR if things get really rough. I think we're fine on offense. Not worth tinkering with.
Why bother right now? We're tied for 2nd in the league. The team for the most part looks great. Sure, it may be reasonable to say we're operating on a best case scenario trajectory, but right now, it's working. If it keeps up, we'll be a destination at the deadline and the fact that we don't really need to make any major moves will give us a bit of leverage. Maybe then we find a halfway-decent 3/4 defenseman to tighten up the pairings. That's about all we really need at this point. Sure, some of the kids could dry up, it wouldn't be the first time, but we've got more of them who could come up and perhaps play well.
But all in all, I just don't think offense is or is going to be our problem, and I think we should wait and see what opportunities arise closer to the deadline now that we might actually make it on to a few guy's lists. Otherwise, there's just no compelling reason to shake things up right now.
Maybe, but Datsyuk has 11 goals in 16 games??!!! Would love to see him give them a run for it.
Tatar's been great. Love the mix of this team. I think one great thing is that we're now mixing the generations and it's working. What I mean is that we had "the kid line" that's been usually separate on their own and on the PP. I hadn't always worked last year when we mixed and matched, but now we have a lot of combinations that seem to be finding chemistry.
Datsyuk is having an unbelievable year. If we're going by points per game, he's up there with Seguin and Crosby, literally. I think Dats and Tatar are going to really run away with the scoring for the Wings this year. Nyquist still seems to be a bit streaky thus far.
But to be as thread-centric as possible, you've got to love what Tats has been doing lately. He's really turned it on. All that pushing they've been doing seems to be paying off. If he can keep his head straight, he should be able to keep it up. Him and Datsyuk seem to really be developing some solid chemistry and that should be a lot of fun to watch as the season goes on.
Datsyuk is really killing it this year in the points department. He hasn't played as many games, but he's putting up points at the same rate as Seguin and Crosby right now. If he keeps it up, I really hope he gets some serious Hart consideration this year. The guy has really just been putting on a show so far, despite having to battle injuries and having a few rough games coming off sitting a couple times. This year is clearly about the youth movement, but Datsyuk's proving why he's still one of the best hockey players in the world even at age 36. Just another thing to cherish about this season.
When you say you've got 4 coaches that are preaching the same message and the result isn't changing, how in the ever living f*** do you not question whether the message isn't just f***ed to hell??? 4 guys supposedly preaching the same thing and it all boils down to lack of execution??? I'd totally buy that execution is part of it, but come on...
I'm pretty sure all the lusting for Yandle on LGW has ensured that the universe will never allow a deal to happen. If the Wings ever did acquire Yandle, there'd surely be some sort of time-paradox and reality and humanity and things of this nature would cease to exist.
I really don't have enough words to say how much I love this team this year, warts and all. It ain't always pretty, but we're finding ways to win and coming out on the right side of a lot of ugly starts. You've got to be proud of this club.
And if you're not having a riot watching this team, then I'm genuinely sorry. This is the most fun I've had watching the Wings in years!
I have not been shy about saying that I think this team is playing well enough to make a real stink in the playoffs. I haven't been so excited watching a Wings team in some time, and I really think even with no moves made, they've got a real good chance to make some noise. For them to make a real run though, Howard will have to be at his best in the playoffs. He's fully capable and I think he's had a great bounce back year, so I'm really, ridiculously, and exceedingly excited to see how things go down the stretch. It's going to be fun fun either way if the start is any indication.
Of course we're not a better team. I'm just saying that you can't pin loses on the failure to have Datsyuk in the lineup. We don't have too many loses without Datsyuk in the lineup. So far, the fact that our impressive wins are punctuated by loses isn't due to Datsyuk's absence, because thus far when he's been gone we've won more often than lost. That's all I'm saying.
I'm definitely not saying that, I'm just saying it doesn't help matters either. We need to get our kids playing like they are capable no matter who's in the lineup, and no one would ever really say that we're a better team without Datsyuk. The sooner the team gets used to playing as a mostly-complete team, as in not missing major pieces like Datsyuk, the better we'll be. It just boils down to inexperience and lack of familiarity with roles to me.
See above. I didn't say they're a better team. I said they've won more than lost with him absent. As such, it's hard to blame the loses on his absence.
I know, I meant it more generally. Believe me, I don't think anyone on this forum in their right mind is going to say such a thing and mean it.
Ok, but which types of teams are more likely to make the playoffs, let alone peak in them...ones that can string together wins, or ones that have great games (Chicago, Columbus) and then fail to build on them?
That's all this thread is about. Inconsistency is a problem, regardless of whether it's been detrimental thus far.
I see it as a product of where this team is at right now. There's two cores in a sense; one is young and inexperienced, one is getting up there in age. On top of that, Datsyuk, arguably still our best player, has been in and out of the lineup and not always at 100% when playing. We can't really complain about goaltending, the defense has been better than they have any right to be, and our young guys are continuing to get better. But it's going to be a bumpy road for awhile still because some of the guys that I do believe will carry this team down the stretch are still getting their feet wet in the NHL.
And when Dats is healthier and playing on the regular, it'll help a fair amount. And if Weiss is able to come in and contribute on some level, that could be a big bonus. But I really do think come the December-January timeframe, we'll be stringing together more and more wins if this team can stay healthier on the whole. There's a good deal more positive consistency happening in certain areas of our game this year than in the last couple of years, and consistency in other areas will come as guys continue to develop. Put it all together, and I'm pretty happy with where the team is at now, and pretty excited for where they'll be in a few months.