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#2427266 Dan Cleary Watch

Posted by gcom007 on 05 July 2013 - 02:40 PM


@Real_ESPNLeBrun: Lots of action on UFA winger Dan Cleary. Wings still in the mix




Maybe they'll leverage him into signing dirt cheap. I'd be fine with keeping him for dirt cheap, but alas, it's highly unlikely to happen. 

#2427256 Wings buy out Colaiacovo, will keep Bertuzzi

Posted by gcom007 on 05 July 2013 - 02:36 PM

Just gotta say, read Colaiacovo's interview with the team website ( http://redwings.nhl....676419&navid=DL|DET|home ) and it's pretty clear that Carlo is a classy guy. I was a little bummed to see him go as I thought he was one of the surprising players in the playoffs relative to missing the whole year. I get why it went down, but it's too bad those injuries follow him around. Might've ended differently for him here.

#2425966 The Overreaction Thread

Posted by gcom007 on 04 July 2013 - 03:44 PM

The Wings can get rid of him. Pay him 100% if necessary. Just get rid of him.


Not going to happen at this point. Their one and only hope at this point is that he spends the year on LTIR. But who cares? What makes anyone think that the same Holland that was dumb enough to sign him last summer would do much better with the cap room this summer? Holland hasn't done jack s*** to prove that he's able to bring in players that make this team even marginally better via free agency or trade in the four years that we actually started to feel the effects of the cap.


Teams like Chicago find a way to seemingly overspend, regroup, and rebuild around their rock solid core. In the process, they've now won two Cups.


Holland, meanwhile, has paid crap players too much, failed to sign or trade for anyone meaningful, lost his top three defensemen over the course of a little over a year while failing to add a player even close to equivalent to the least talented of the three defensemen lost. In the process, our best run came in spite of Holland's free agency efforts last summer when our kids from GR came up to do the work that our injured or sputtering "NHLers" were unable to do either due to injury or simply because they weren't very good at all.


That said, what do you truly expect at this point? While it sounds almost incomprehensible even for Holland that he'd let Brunner and Flip walk without adding at least someone respectable enough to maybe be a second line center, I really wouldn't be shocked if he lost both guys and just signed Cleary. Everyone keeps saying Weiss, but I'll be very surprised if Holland pulls it off. Somehow, he'll end up being too expensive or something. It's always something, and then it's always "trades" or "next summer."


I think I'd rather have Stan Bowman. He's won two Cups maneuvering through the same cap difficulties we've had if not worse, and he was smart enough to sign Hossa at a great cap hit when he had the chance. Plus, then we'd still have Scotty Bowman around. You can't deny the correlation between Bowman leaving the organization and our ability to sign or trade for NHLers that improve our team, nor Chicago's success since Bowman came into the fold and Stan took over as GM there. Obviously we can't say that it's an absolute explanation and Holland was just his puppet, but it's tough to deny that it hasn't played some part in said team's successes and struggles.

#2425352 The Overreaction Thread

Posted by gcom007 on 03 July 2013 - 10:51 AM

We were competitive last season. We were the closest team to beating the Cup Champs in the playoffs. Holland may be too conservative sometimes and too loyal sometimes, but atleast he doesn't do a deal just to do a deal if he is afraid it could handcuff the team down the road. 


The Lecavalier situation is a perfect example. We all would have liked him RIGHT NOW, and so did Holland it seemed. But in 3 years? In 4? 5? He's already declined a lot from what he once was. Philly is known for handing out crazy contracts that put them in terrible situations after a couple of years, it's no surprise they were the ones willing to take that chance. 


Holland isn't the guy that is willing to put everything on one card (like Pittsburgh kinda did this season) and say "we want to win THIS YEAR", but he finds ways to put a decent team out there, even if this last season he got a bit lucky with Dekeyser falling into our laps. 


So Lecavalier at $4.5 million for 5 years is handcuffing the team and whatever absurd contracts Holland was about to give Parise and Suter for far longer at twice the price were...what then?

#2425330 The Overreaction Thread

Posted by gcom007 on 03 July 2013 - 10:21 AM

I don't think anyone's arguing (well, at least...) that Holland wasn't a great GM at one point. What a lot of people are noting is that as we have moved far enough into the new era where we really started feeling the weight of the cap, Holland's struggled to show that he can maneuver well in free agency or with other teams via trade. That is a real problem, right now. It doesn't matter that once upon a time he did this or that; "this or that" from "way back when" have no bearing on "hear and now." Hear and now, he can't figure out how to sign or trade for difference makers, and he's tried plenty.


Holland's let people slip away that he shouldn't. He continues to cling to players he shouldn't. He overpays for mid-level talent based largely it seems on familiarity. He tries to underpay for high-level talent, which ultimately has failed every time. And when he fails, he's the king of revisionists, make no mistake. That guy finds a way to reshape everything that happened as part of some master plan, and it must be working, because there's plenty of non-critical thinkers who keep falling for it and praising Holland because of what he did in another era now long past us.


Oh, I guess it's easy forgetting in an instant that Holland was desperate to throw $9 million plus at both Suter and Parise last summer.


Oh, that's right, I remember now, Holland is so smart for not overpaying for free agents!


Now that we didn't sign them...


"We like our team."


I'm not trying to take anything away from what Holland has done, but if he was as great of a GM as people want to paint him to be in this cap era, he would not be struggling so much in the free agency and trade markets. You can say all you want about what he did in the past, but no one willing to be objective can say that Holland has shown that he has a strong handle, let alone any handle, on helping this team via trade or free agency lately. And like it or not (for the sake of some of ever-shifting argument), trade and free agency are still very important parts of this game.

#2425157 Wings buy out Colaiacovo, will keep Bertuzzi

Posted by gcom007 on 02 July 2013 - 10:48 PM

Cleary at $3 million for 3 years but we can't do $4.5 million for five years for Lecavalier? I get why people defend Holland, but seriously? Seriously? We'll pay a guy who spends half his ice time on his knees $3 million for 3 more years because we're worried about the "pace" of a guy who's ten times the player Cleary ever was?



#2425149 Report: Red Wings out on Lecavalier - signs with Philly 5@4.5 per

Posted by gcom007 on 02 July 2013 - 10:27 PM


I'm guessing Vinny may have gone for the team that offered him term and a NMC... I'm sure Detroit or Dallas offered him at least $4.5 but probably only for 2-3 years.  ...and hopefully Holland has learned that not every player deserves a NMC.


I am a little disappointed... but more in Vinny than Holland.  So... Whatevs.


Why are you disappointed in him? He obviously believes he can play for 5 more years and he doesn't want to move his family again. That's a pretty reasonable thing to want, and that he was willing to sign for a very reasonable $4.5 million is also telling that he wasn't out for the money, as he probably could've gotten close to that much in less years of playing. On a 2-3 year deal, he's easily still a $6 million and up caliber player, so 5 and $4.5 isn't bad at all, and it'll be even easier in those 4th and 5th years when the cap gets back up to around $80 million. Again, I don't think Vinny will put the Flyers over the top as there are other issues at play, but I think he could've gone a long way to putting the Wings over the top the next few years.


This frustrates me a whole lot more than not signing Parise and Suter. I gave no f*** about not signing those two individuals, but this is just very frustrating any way you shake it. That Sammy was signed to a multi-year deal for $1.5 less last year just hurts my brain, two-year term or not. I've got a feeling that Holland's going to have to have a hell of a weekend if he doesn't want to lose the faith of those that still believe that the "best GM in the business" isn't just resting on his laurels and a strong scouting staff.

#2425140 Report: Red Wings out on Lecavalier - signs with Philly 5@4.5 per

Posted by gcom007 on 02 July 2013 - 10:16 PM

When we sign the guys we do at what we do and then I see deals like this, I wonder if Holland even tries. I don't know how people can continue to defend him when he seems to so clearly be unable to maneuver well with free agents anymore. Lecavalier at $5 million for 5 years at worst wouldn't have been as bad as Sammy for $3 million, ever. That he went to Philly for $4.5 though is even sillier. Franzen has close to a $4 million cap hit and he's already more worthless than Vinny would likely be in his 4th and 5th years.


At this rate, I think we'll be lucky if we can sign Brunner again.


And by "at this rate," I don't mean one guy that we didn't before free agency even began, I'm talking about the last four off-seasons of failing to truly make this team better via free agency or trade. I get that development and the draft are vitally important, more than ever in the cap era, but it takes a fool to think development alone will put you over the top. Clearly Holland doesn't believe that it'll work, otherwise he wouldn't pursue anyone, so don't even try to kid yourselves into thinking his schtick about being focused on the draft and development after he comes up empty is anything more than lip service to his local lapdogs at MLive and the Free Press.


Again, what shouldn't worry anyone is whether or not Holland believes you need to be able to add NHL talent to your roster via trade or free agency. What should cause you to just shake your head is that Holland just doesn't seem able to get that job done anymore, and it's a shame. Any team built around Datsyuk and Zetterberg with decent goaltending is close to being a contender. We saw that clearly in the last playoffs. But it's going to continue to go to waste if Holland doesn't pull up his britches and take some chances. So what if deals don't always work out? For the love, grow up and deal with it, that's life!


Maybe Lecavalier had other reasons to go to Philly, but at this moment, given what is known, it's hard to imagine. He doesn't automatically make them a contender by a long-shot, but if he had signed with the Wings, after what we saw from our young guys and what he'd add, I'll be damned if I wouldn't be very, very confident heading into the playoffs the next couple of years at least, probably more. But as of now, it's hard to have confidence in that because once again, I just don't have confidence in Holland's ability to make the moves that will put us over the top, and we're just too close to keep wasting opportunities.

#2424054 Red Wings select RW Anthony Mantha 20th Overall

Posted by gcom007 on 30 June 2013 - 04:48 PM

He needs to add 20 lbs of muscle, 2 periods per game of stamina, and learn to play balls out.

Will take at least 3 years.


Oh, to be young...and stupid naive.

#2424041 Red Wings select RW Anthony Mantha 20th Overall

Posted by gcom007 on 30 June 2013 - 04:37 PM

Ansar KHAAAAAAN!!! tweeted that Mantha's goal is to "Make the Wings roster next season..."


Aww, that's cute.

#2424004 Red Wings select RW Anthony Mantha 20th Overall

Posted by gcom007 on 30 June 2013 - 04:22 PM


NHL team: Montreal Canadiens
NHL player: Sidney Crosby
Goal celebration: “Knee down, hand glide on the ice”
Video game: Call of Duty, NHL
Movie: Fast and Furious
TV show: Vampire Diaries
Website: Facebook, Twitter


We are going to have to fix this....


I was just about to post the same...his entertainment choices could use some beefing up too. Fast and Furious and Vampire Diaries?!? I mean, has he never heard of Breaking Bad?!? Who cares let alone watches many movies anymore anyways? TV has just gotten too good.

#2423974 2013 NHL Entry Draft Discussion

Posted by gcom007 on 30 June 2013 - 04:10 PM

13? Seriously?


Did all of you eagle-eyed observers not notice that every player is getting a #13 jersey today, I don't know, maybe because it's the 2013 draft?

#2423892 Canucks trade Schneider to Devils for 9th overall pick

Posted by gcom007 on 30 June 2013 - 03:55 PM

Really isn't surprising when you look at every angle of it. It's not like they haven't tried to move Luongo, and it's not like Luongo is truly a bad goalie. But I really can't imagine what's going through Luongo's head right now, let alone how he'll respond. I think it'll go better than some think though, just given how it went this year. If things were really going to explode, I think it would've already happened. I think it'll be weird, but I think he'll come around by training camp. If he comes out and plays solid, people will forget these few years ever happened and he'll be fine. 


At least until he implodes in another game 7...


But seriously, I think half the drama from the situation comes from having two #1s in the room like they had. We should know after the Hasek/Cujo situation how "fun" that can get, and we also know that sometimes your contract makes it next to impossible to trade you, and you might have to come back and be the number one guy again. But that's gone now for Luongo, and what happens next is up to him.


I'm no Luongo fan in general, never have been, but if he comes out and plays well next season for the Canucks and has a good Olympic run, he'll be fine. And again, as much as I'm not fan, I do think he's capable of playing his way out of this drama.

#2423825 2013 NHL Entry Draft Discussion

Posted by gcom007 on 30 June 2013 - 03:12 PM


Doesn't matter what he wants, he was unmoveable.  Now that he's full time starter again and the team's only option, Luongo will be great for them.


Except in game 7s, of course.

#2423082 Blackhawks Letter of Appreciation

Posted by gcom007 on 28 June 2013 - 11:38 AM

I don't want to say it, but there really are a lot of things to admire about the Blackhawks organization these days.