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#2192037 No, No, NO! Jagr interested in Detroit.

Posted by gcom007 on 29 June 2011 - 06:31 PM

I really hope we didn't offer him 4 million. LGW.com will have a meltdown if that's the case.

I'm not sure I'm wholly convinced that Jagr wouldn't be worth $4 million. I could see him putting up 25-30 goals and 70-80 points on this team playing with Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Franzen and hell, even Cleary and Bert to some extent. There are a lot of guys with good hands on this team that would only serve to benefit Jagr, just as Jagr would benefit them. He's not just a former star, he's a former superstar; a bonafide all-time great hockey player. Even slowed down by age, he's still likely to be capable of some real strong play and that could easily translate to a lot of points.

That is, if he can stay healthy...

There's the rub.

But bottom line, if we were to sign him and he put up 80 points, no one would be complaining about a $4 million contract.

And I believe the rumor of him taking a bit more time to talk to both teams. It only makes sense and doesn't seem like a rumor so much as plain common sense unless he's dead-set on Pittsburgh and fine with any offer at all from them.

#2187781 No, No, NO! Jagr interested in Detroit.

Posted by gcom007 on 22 June 2011 - 01:19 AM

Come on...as much as anyone can worry and speculate and feel uncomfortable about having Jagr on your team, it's impossible to not be somewhat excited about it as well. You're talking about one of the all time greats who has still looked good the last few years. And for either us or Pittsburgh, you're talking about playing him with a class of players that far exceed the quality of those found in the KHL.

Jagr and Datsyuk???

Of course Lidstrom is excited!

I get the reservations. I've got them too...plenty of them.

But come on...anyone who says that there's not at least a small (or large) part of them excited about the possibility of Jagr as a Wing is lying.

Modano would have worked out fine if not for the freak injury thing; he was obviously starting to get in a groove and meshing with the Wings.

But as good as Modano was, Jagr was much better - everything erodes over time, but Jagr's skills have a lot further to go downhill.

Lidstrom would be much more diplomatic if he was just being kind - "Well, the decision is of course up to Holland, but Jagr is obviously a great talent." - something like that. It honestly sounds like Nick would be excited to have him on the team.

I don't know how people continue to think they can logically justify the idea of the Modano signing being a mistake when a freak injury wholly and completely derailed his season. It's getting way past fuzzy logic and heading straight into "stupid" territory. No, make that "stoopid" territory. That's right...with two "O's."

#2184972 SCF: Boston Bruins vs. Vancouver Canucks

Posted by gcom007 on 13 June 2011 - 08:17 PM

Unbelievable. Luongo is going to need a witness protection program if he can't pull off game 7.

And at this rate, game 7 is set up to be insane.

Boston should win this series. Tim Thomas isn't going to let up for game 7. No way in hell. He's the best goalie in the NHL right now and he's got a tremendous amount of composure.


Unless Luongo really cracks under pressure (which he has numerous times), he'll likely bring his A-Game to to game 7. And it's in Vancouver! It's going to be absolutely insane...just insane.

I'm a little scared of what will happen if it goes down, but what the hell, they deserve it...


#2179496 Brian Rafalski announces retirement after 11 NHL seasons

Posted by gcom007 on 25 May 2011 - 10:41 AM

They don't come classier than Rafalski. That was an incredibly gracious announcement, refreshing to hear from a professional athlete. It's a bit sad to see him go, but I'm going to take his advice and be happy for him. He really loves his family and now he'll have a lot more time for them. He had a great career, and I'm glad he was able to play for the Wings and help us win a Cup.

#2179108 Brian Rafalski announces retirement after 11 NHL seasons

Posted by gcom007 on 24 May 2011 - 02:39 PM

This whole "discussing his playing future," even though it's all but been confirmed that he's retiring signals to me that he will be immediately moving to the front office in some capacity.

The really intersting thought, that some will hate to hear, is could he be a candidate for assistant coach? Haha! This would warrant the smoke-screen that Kenny is putting up around his retirement tomorrow.

Bring on the hate!

The phrasing "Red Wings general manager Ken Holland and Brian Rafalski will host a press conference on Wednesday to discuss the veteran defensemanís future with the organization," is somewhat interesting. I too wondered for a brief moment if he wouldn't be considered for the assistant coaching job, but I'm highly doubtful. Wouldn't be shocked at all though to see him get some role in the organization. He's one of the best U.S. players ever, a local guy and he won a championship with us. Why not?

#2175161 Bigger Picture Question - What was the deciding factor?

Posted by gcom007 on 13 May 2011 - 02:25 PM

We almost beat this team with numerous significant injuries. I doubt Z was 100% and at the very least had some rust to deal with starting out. Dats had the wrist issue, despite still being the best player in the series without a doubt. Franzen was just a mess. That's your 3 top offensive players dealing with injuries.

Then you think about the fact that we did take it to game 7, and consider that in that game, already playing with no Franzen, an injured Datsyuk and maybe still an injured Z, you lose Cleary and Bertuzzi completely. And still, you're in the game to the final seconds and lose by one goal.

Give me a break.

The Sharks are living on a strong prayer named Antti Niemi and the Wings didn't have the firepower to finish them off.

I have no problem admitting that the Wings aren't perfect and have problems, and I am probably one of the few here that genuinely respects and admires other teams in the league. But I won't for a second say that the better team won that series. I don't believe it at all. We had some bad luck with injuries...that were at times caused or exacerbated by Joe Thornton cheap shots. I'm not going to give my respect or props to the Sharks. They won, that's far more than they deserve for their efforts, and I don't think they'll get to 16, let alone 12.

But we will be back.

#2175144 Who Stays? Who Goes?

Posted by gcom007 on 13 May 2011 - 02:05 PM

My thoughts:

As Good As Signed:

Lidstrom, obviously. No way he retires. Not. A. Chance.

Eaves is going to be a Wing for life unless he completely prices himself out of the possibility, which I really doubt will happen. He's thrived here and gets hockey tradition and he knows what it means to wear this jersey. I'm expecting a longer deal, 3-4 years at least if not more, and I expect he'll sign for around $1.5 million, give or take. He's still got lots of upside we've yet to see.

On the Bubble:

Salei signing again wouldn't shock me, but I wouldn't be shocked if he was gone either.

Osgood wants to play and was strong in the backup role this year when healthy. But the health factor is everything and I don't expect anything to be finalized on the backup job until after camp unless Osgood decides he's done. If he's truly healthy, he'll be back.

Drew Miller may be gone if the Wings don't assure him that he has a full-time role on the team. He's too good of a player to sit in the press box every other night and he knows it. If neither Draper nor Modano are brought back, I think he'll be a Wing for awhile.

Most Likely Gone:

Draper and Modano are most likely done. The only way I see them coming back is if we really struggle to find guys to fill out the team.

Ericsson is likely to be gone as he'll likely chase money and I'm sure he'll find more than the Wings are willing to give.

Joey MacDonald was fairly strong down the stretch when we needed him and might try to leverage that into more money and a legitimate backup role. I'm not convinced the Wings are comfortable giving him either. If no one bites though, he'll at least be at camp competing.

Players Under Contract That Could Be Moved:

***Ultra-Speculatory Warning***

Filppula will be heading into the final year of a 5-year deal in which after every year the Wings were left waiting for the true breakout year. I'm not sure the Wings will be keen on signing him again at $3 million a year or more given this fact, so again, if the right deal came up, I think he could be dealt. He could make more money on another team and play a bigger role, and the Wings know this. They'll have to decide how much he's worth to them and if it'll be enough to keep him here once the current contract expires. I highly doubt it'll happen, but for all his brilliant flashes, he simply hasn't consistently been strong enough to consider the possibility out of the question.

Hudler has been disappointing this year to say the least. If the right deal were to come up, I don't think the Wings would hesitate to move him. Then again, I don't expect it much at all let alone over the summer. If he has a descent start to the season and a good deal came along to make while his stock was up, he's gone. So long as he's here though, he'll continue to be given every opportunity to consistently realize his offensive potential. If he continues to struggle through next year with no trade, I can tell you one thing for certain: he will not be a Wing for the 2012-13 season.

#2173001 Vancouver's Green Guys

Posted by gcom007 on 12 May 2011 - 10:58 AM

I think it's hysterical. A lot of people need to lighten up.

#2159776 Question: Why do Wings fans hate the Canucks?

Posted by gcom007 on 28 April 2011 - 01:28 AM

I don't hate the Canucks, just like I don't hate the Sharks. I'm just consistently disappointed by them. Unlike many here, I really love good, strong competition. I don't like feeling like there's no competitive teams out there. But you look at the teams that have consistent regular season success over the years out of the West and the Wings are about the only one's that have gone the distance. Sharks? Canucks? They constantly blow it when it really matters. Even last year when they beat an injury-riddled Wings with a rookie goalie who didn't get playoff hockey yet, the Sharks blew it in the Western Finals. And how long has it been since the Canucks even made it that far?

I just don't respect or really admire these flashy regular season teams that have no playoff legs. And I don't like Luongo. I think he's overpaid and overrated and he epitomizes everything that's wrong with teams like the Canucks and Sharks.

When we play Chicago, I hate them with a tenacious passion, but at all other points in time, I respect them and even kinda like them. They're a team with heart and talent and I think they'll win another Cup sometime in the next few years. I appreciate the fact that they bring a legitimate challenge to the table that I think we'll be able to count on for some time. Again, I love the battle and the competition. It makes victories sweeter when they come our way.

But so long as the Wings are healthy, I'm not intimidated by the Sharks or Canucks even a little bit. Not in the slightest. And even if they can fluke their way to a series win against us, deep down I know that they still won't go the distance and win the Cup, and that makes it all the more disappointing. I would love to be more scared of the Sharks or Canucks, because I'd like and respect them more as well because it'd be more fun to play them.

But they just don't have what it takes year after year, and until they do, they're just annoying, overrated teams that will keep getting beat by supposed "underdogs" in the playoffs.

#2135976 Jimmy Howard watch thread

Posted by gcom007 on 25 March 2011 - 08:39 PM

Great post, I get really sick of hearing about how awful our defense is. I mean it certainly isn't the best in the league, but they make it sound like we have an AHL defense out there. Every defense makes mistakes, gives the puck up, and fails to cover a man every once in a while. I just don't see how so many can assign basically all the blame on the defense and non on the goaltending.

It goes both ways. In terms of the goaltending, the defense was just as bad if not worse last year and Howard played great despite it, so this year when he struggles, it's really tough to just sit around and blame the defense. He was making all the big saves last year, and he wasn't making them this year. His issues became more glaring and his tendencies more exposed, allowing guys to better figure out how to beat him. So I'm with you there.

But the other reality of the matter is that our defense underachieves big time as well.

Sure, other teams have their fair share of defensive issues, but they also don't have near as strong of a group of guys as we do. There's no excuse for how poorly they've played since we last won the Cup because nearly the same group proved game in and game out for a couple years that they were about the best defensive group in the league. They should just be improving as the younger guys mature. Hell, we didn't even have to deal with Lebda this year!

Plain and simple, the defense has been mediocre through 3 regular seasons now. Howard played great to battle through it last year. This year, Howard hasn't played as great so he couldn't battle through it in such a strong manner. This is simple. Why anyone continues to try and blame either the goalies or the defense more than the other this year is way beyond me.

#2135974 Jimmy Howard watch thread

Posted by gcom007 on 25 March 2011 - 08:29 PM

Goaltending is always going to be a question mark to people in Detroit. You name any goalie in our last 4 cup championship teams, and all of them have been under the magnifying glass. Even after they win a cup, no respect is given to them. This is the way it is always going to be in Detroit. Even last year when Howard was solid in net and helping us get into the playoffs, people here and other Wings fans I know never gave him any credit. Today, its no different. If Howard plays amazing, it is what he is supposed to do. Anything less, and its horrible. Being as that no goalie plays at that high of a level every game, there is no goalie who is good enough to goaltend in Detroit.

Are you kidding me? Who wasn't giving Howard credit last year? I don't recall anyone who said much of anything other than he was just about the only reason we even made the playoffs. At most, there were people critiquing certain elements of his game that were problematic. Rebound control has always been an issue that gets attention and he had a tendency of having rather glaring bad games every 5-6 starts, though the other starts tended to be a good to great efforts. but that was about the extent of it. I really don't think anyone knocked Howard's play last year during the regular season and he didn't get the Calder nomination by accident.

That said, once the playoffs kicked in, he took a lot of flack, but that's to be expected when you set such a high standard for your play during the regular season and then you don't even come close to playing at that level in the playoffs when you're really supposed to be elevating your game. And aside from just a generally lackluster performance, he gave up too many soft goals at inopportune times and too many fast back to back goals early on in games. The same type of play got Hasek pulled in 2008.

So of course the fans are going to be upset and doubtful over the summer. Playoffs are everything. If you don't have it in the playoffs, it doesn't matter what you can do in the regular season. That's why this year is so important for him.

And then when you look at this year, there's little you can say to really dispute people who are skeptical. I'm honestly optimistic right now given the last few weeks as I outlined before, and I really would like to see the guy have a successful outing this year, but realistically, I can't make an objective argument to suggest that people are wrong to have concerns heading into the playoffs. He had a rough year any way you shake it, a rough first playoff experience, and it's far too easy (and historically you're far more likely...) to join the rookie year wonder club for goalies. And again, let's not forget that it took him longer to get here at all because he was slow to develop and only got a shot because Detroit was out of minor league options for him.

So again, you can't really sit here and say that no one gave him any credit last year because that is so far from the truth, and you can't completely blame those who are skeptical of him given the way things have progressed over time. At this point, I'm with you in thinking that there's a fair amount to be excited about and I really do like his chances of excelling in this post-season. I think he's bring his game up at the right time and so long as he keeps improving, he's going to be in a real good spot for game 1 of round 1.

If he can battle through the pressure and elevate his game, he'll be successful when it counts, and trust me, you won't be needing to defend him for awhile. In the meantime, I wouldn't pay too much mind to those doubting; they've got objective reasons to be concerned. Just give it time. We'll know a lot by game 4. And by game 5, I think he'll either be in and playing well, or on the bench and on his way to being traded. I don't see a lot of in-between. If he blows it, I don't see the Wings wasting time hoping he'll get it right the 3rd time. He's got a contract that'll be really easy to slide into a deal for a new goalie.

But he's also got the potential to be great, and I think and hope he will be.

Either way, there's little we really know until we get there.

#2135066 Osgood on LTIR

Posted by gcom007 on 23 March 2011 - 06:15 PM

i know people are gonna bash me for saying this. but it was kind of selfish for ozzie to claim he'd be find and back by march. he put his own hopes ahead of the interest of the team. we could have gone out and got a replacement at the deadline, but he insisted that he'd be back. now you get a situation where howard will be run into the ground by the second round. i like joey, but i don't think he's big game material. ozzie needed to give this team a chance to win by being completely honest about the seriousness of his situation. he kept downplaying it like it was nothing. i just don't think thats the actions of a team player. sounds like an old guy desperate for one last shot.

There's these people called doctors that have been signing off on this too. You really think a professional hockey team is just going to be going on the word from the player? Don't be silly. And even so, I doubt it was a matter of Osgood being expected to be ready so much as a lack of guys available that were worth moving on.


Oh yeah, the same "team player" probably suffered a worse injury playing through the pain earlier in the season when Howard was playing like garbage. He put his own health on the line to try and help the team, knowing full well that these sorts of injuries are harder to come back from at his age. It's fine to be upset that he's not healthy and all; it's disappointing. But don't question the guy's character over it. That's just absurd. The guy loves this team as much anyone who's ever worn the jersey.

#2123629 Wings sign Howard to 2-year, $4.5M extension

Posted by gcom007 on 28 February 2011 - 05:52 PM

Good deal. Not being too overpaid even if the consistency issues remain. 2 years is a real good length after this season. Gives Howard more time to prove himself and the Wings flexibility if things don't go so well. I would've liked to have seen it done for a little less the way the playoffs and this regular season have gone, but this is a pretty reasonable deal all things considered. No one should be too unhappy with this.

I would add in another couple suggestions

--The defense in front of Howard really has not helped him out in some situations.
--Although they make mistakes, the defense in front of Howard does play better.

After watching how the defense plays worse than the Oilers defense in some periods, and then comes out and plays lights out in other periods, I really don't look too deeply into Howards stats. The stats of a goalie at this level is largely dependent upon the defense in front of him. Howard has the wins, but that is because of what you and I just mentioned. They are 2nd in goals scored, but their defense has not been as stellar at times.

As for consistency, it is very hard for a goalie to be consistent if the team defense is not consistent in front of him. Look at the goals that Buffalo scored last game. A breakaway and a 2 on 1 chance. Both of which Howard had zero chance on. When the D plays more consistent, then I will start looking deep into his stats.

The defense has been a mess since we last won the Cup. He dealt with the exact same problems last year but played far better to fight through them. He hasn't been as terrible as some suggest and the defense certainly doesn't help him most nights, but it would be absurd to suggest that he's played even remotely as well this season as he did last season, and the same could be said about his playoff performance last year. He's proven that he has the skills to be a shut down goalie, but he absolutely has not extended that play into the post-season or his 2nd NHL season. And that's exactly why he didn't get a longer contract worth more money per year.

As I've always said, I've got faith in him and I'm happy to have him signed, but we can't blame his issues on the defense when the defensive issues are nothing new at all.

#2117013 Bleacher Reports Top 5 Captains of All Time

Posted by gcom007 on 15 February 2011 - 05:53 PM

Am I the only one bothered by the fact that Bleacher Report is just a giant collection of amateur blogs? Legitimate (if you can still even call them that...) are bad enough, but some of the blogs on that site are just dripping with stupidity; armchair drivel at its best. I'm fine with the idea of people having a blog and a voice, but I think it gets fuzzy when they start trying to pass themselves off as proper journalists when they blatantly are not beholden to the same standards of integrity and accuracy.

#2113818 2/9 GDT: Predators 4 at Red Wings 1

Posted by gcom007 on 09 February 2011 - 08:50 PM

Pathetic. This team has to give Howard a chance to get something going. He had a solid outing last game and they should've gone above and beyond to help him get another tonight just to get some positive momentum going. It's a real shame. There's no way he's going to get back into last years form if the team doesn't up the ante to help him get his confidence up a bit.