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#2582625 Mrazek to start how many games?

Posted by gcom007 on 17 March 2015 - 07:01 PM

Howie's definitely doesn't have it together right now. He may have pushed himself back a little bit too early. From the games I've been able to watch, there were a number of goals where it looked like he gave up on them. I'm not saying he would normally do that, but I think it's an indication that he's still hurting.

Mrazek is still young and that means the occasional rookie mistake, but his puck handling just completely changes the game in our favor. I know I've been kind of scoffed at for stating how much it would help, but I hope people have been able to see the difference and might be coming around to it. And I don't mean to be a dick, but let's not forget how Howie injured himself in the first place.

I remember when Howard first came up and started splitting starts. I kept thinking "this is the guy? This is our goalie of the future?" Five years later he's improved no doubt, but he still plays like a timid kid. I just don't get that vibe when Mrazek plays.


If there is one thing I'll completely agree with you on, it's that Mrazek always looks a lot more confident out there than a whole lot of starting NHL goalies. Whether he should be at this point might be up for debate, but the kid is no doubt spirited. I absolutely love his fight; it'll serve him well as he continues to develop.

#2582588 Mrazek to start how many games?

Posted by gcom007 on 17 March 2015 - 12:35 PM

With the 8 extremely good young forwards that we have in our system right now (Nyquist, Tatar, Jurco, Sheahan, Pulkkinen, Athanasiou, Mantha and Larkin) I don't think we have much to worry about up front. I think all of these guys are / could be legit top 6(3) NHL players, and I think it's very possible that at least 1 or 2 could become elite. Defense is definitely our area of weakness right now and in the future in my opinion. We have 4, maybe 5 young defensemen (DeKeyser, Smith, Sproul, Ouellet, Marchenko) that could become top 4 guys.


I think either way you look at it, we are set up pretty good when Datsyuk, Zetterberg and Kronwall eventually retire in the next 3-5 years (which by the way, is still a ways away yet...)



As for the great Howard vs. Mrazek debate, I still think Howard deserves a shot to prove he is the Red Wings best option in goal for the time being. After all, like many have already pointed out, he was putting up great numbers and having an All-Star year prior to his injury. In saying that, I do believe he should be on a somewhat short leash, and Mrazek stealing the job at this point should be a real option. I don't think you go with the veteran goalie into the playoffs if the rookie is playing substantially better.


I've always been a Howard supporter and still am, but I don't buy that the team just happens to show up when Mrazek (or Gustavsson) is in net, and play like s*** when Howard is in net. I think the teams play is a result of the goalies play. It's much easier to get going on the offense when your goalie is making the huge key saves in a game. If the goalie lets in a softie or two, it usually does effect the teams overall play. Howard is very capable in making big time saves from time to time but he is also known to let in a few weak goals at inopportune times. Another obvious contributing factor in the team playing better when Mrazek is in net, is his ability to play the puck. As cliché as it sounds, it really is like having a third defenseman back there.


Howard has been awful 1on1 recently and has never learned how to play the puck. Mrazek is pretty good 1on1 due to his aggressive style, and can play the puck as well as any goaltender in the league. The kid oozes confidence and if he's able to string together another few great performances down the stretch and Howard struggles, I think he should be our guy for the playoffs. However, I do still believe it is Howie's job to lose...


While I think Mrazek can and will take the starting job in the next 1-2 years, I really think Howard's play right now goes back to the injury and him not being at 100%, either physically, mentally, or both. You've got to give him the chance down the stretch, but given that he's coming back from a pretty intense injury for a goalie, you've got to be prepared to go with Mrazek if he's looking solid and Howard can't pull it together. It's simple as that.


Howard may have his shortcomings, but Mrazek wouldn't be a serious option this year if not for Howard's injury. Mrazek still has his fair share of shortcomings as well. I love the way he plays the puck, but rookies are rookies and he's still got a bit to learn. That said, if we end up rolling with him in the playoffs, I'll still feel pretty good about our chances. He may struggle with rebounds still and have his weak goaltending moments, but as you said, he does so many things right with the puck that helps our offense that I think it ultimately is a wash right now at worst. At best, he's looking more and more like the goalie of the future.

#2580670 Franzen on IR

Posted by gcom007 on 11 March 2015 - 11:54 AM

Way more than 10% of the league is over 30. The average age of skaters is 27.5. But the numbers are made up, forget it. It's dumb to argue about.

Expecting Franzen to never play again is a pretty drastic conclusion, when there's zero reports suggesting that's the case.

No one speculated Zberg would be done after his last chronic back issue. Wonder why that is...

Don't expect to see him ever again? There ya go


I get what you're saying all over this thread, and I think much of the fan-speculation is silly too. But in this day and age, given how sensitive the entire sports world is becoming to concussions for very good reason, I'd say it's a good deal less outlandish to be concerned about Franzen's 10th concussion than any given person's disc issues in their back. Back issues are serious, no doubt, but they are not at the center of numerous lawsuits and major studies in the sports world like concussions currently are, again, for very good reason.


People may very well have an anti-Franzen bias around here that colors their thoughts, and earlier in the thread you might see that I asked if there was anything said officially on the matter of Franzen potentially being done, and when there was none, I completely dismissed it and left the thread. I popped in now and again just to see if there were any real updates and eventually did learn that this is his 10th concussion, which I was unaware of beforehand.


I personally have found Franzen to be a frustrating player as time's gone on, I'll fully admit that. I don't really miss him, but I don't really wish that he was gone either. I more or less stopped caring much one way or the other, because Franzen is who he is, an occasionally brilliant and occasionally lackluster forward. At least his cap hit is pretty cheap relative to today's market, so it's tough to complain too much. That's what I think.


That said, I read that this is his 10th concussion and I have to say I immediately started worrying about the guy. The reality of the matter is concussions are quite serious, and while he likely will be able to come back from this, there's going to be a part of me that's concerned for the guy's long term health. As frustrating as he can be as a player to some, and as underrated as he is considered to others, he's still a person who's had a lot of concussions, and that's just not a good thing to put it simply.


It's silly to be arguing about whether he should or shouldn't come back, let alone whether he will or won't. It's a waste of energy. If people want to waste energy, a better way to do it would be to simply express hope that whatever Franzen decides to do, he won't have any long-term issues from all of these concussions. At the end of the day, that's what really matters, and the rest is out of our hands anyways.

#2579662 Preds don't postpone game, but get fan experience right

Posted by gcom007 on 07 March 2015 - 09:33 AM

Having lived in Michigan until a year ago when I headed down south, I can't help but laugh at how people get so worked up about a little snow. But at this point, I'm terrified of the roads down here now too. It's not the snow though, it's the idiots who have no idea how to drive in it and assume they can tear through traffic as usual because they're in a pickup truck. Ridiculousness all around. I miss the north...

#2574359 Is Jimmy Our Playoff Goalie?

Posted by gcom007 on 24 February 2015 - 11:31 AM

yes he's obviously our guy however I would love to know the Wings plans overall when it comes to goaltending....
jimmy is here for another 4 years, will mrazek be his backup for that amount of time?  seems odd for such a young tender to play 20 games per year.
or do they trade jimmy and ride an inexperienced goalie with an experienced back up?
or do they trade mrazek since I'm sure he could net a good return?

Mrazek is not getting traded. If anyone goes, it'll be Howard in the next couple years if Mrazek proves capable of becoming the starter. And even that has more to do with cap implications than anything and the fact the Howard would be our best trade asset we've had in awhile.

But for now, come on, yes, absolutely Howard is our playoff goalie. He still has something to prove in the playoffs for sure, but it's kneejerk as ever to think he's not capable of rising to the challenge this year.

#2573734 Larionov on NHL/AHL stifling creative play.

Posted by gcom007 on 23 February 2015 - 12:35 PM

Good read. Some interesting thoughts on Datsyuk and so-called "four or five Datsyuks" in the KHL that never got their shot. In any event though, I'm always fascinated to read more about those old Red Army teams.

#2571337 2/16 GDT : Montreal Canadiens 2 at Red Wings 0

Posted by gcom007 on 16 February 2015 - 10:16 PM

I just want to say I don't care if it's another loss against a top team. That was a closef****** game. I'm still happy with this team. Howard, in just his second game back from injury, held a top team to no goals for over 57 minutes. This was a close game that could've easily gone either way. I'm not worried about this team and am still thoroughly excited about this team's chances in the playoffs.

#2569416 Babcock: "HE WINS, FULL STOP" - THN

Posted by gcom007 on 08 February 2015 - 02:45 PM

I thought at one point there was maybe a 10-20% chance he'd leave, maybe 50-50 if I was being really, really, really generous to pessimism, but at this point, I think it's 100% that Babcock is staying.

#2568807 2/5 GDT - Red Wings 3 at Avalanche 0

Posted by gcom007 on 05 February 2015 - 11:40 PM

Nice little hockey game. Good to see Petr bouncing back from a rough patch of games. The kid's looking like he's capable of being a real good goalie. A bit more growth, some work on them rebounds, and general mental toughness, and it'll be exciting times indeed.

#2567563 1/31 GDT : Islanders 1 vs. Red Wings 4

Posted by gcom007 on 31 January 2015 - 04:31 PM

Wings can't beat any good Eastern teams.


Mrazek is the worst.

#2567144 1/29 GDT - Red Wings 1 at Lightning 5

Posted by gcom007 on 30 January 2015 - 01:14 PM


Wait, you mean our rookie, third string, goalie had a bad game against the best offensive team in the league?  What a bum!


In all seriousness, I'm glad to hear it. Obviously, looking at the score it seemed like one of those games where we just looked retarded for 60 minutes.  If the team played well, and Peter was just off, oh well.  Obviously I'd like to see them win, but over the course of an 82 games season you're going to lose some games.  If that's the case, I'd rather they lose because one guy has a bad game than because 20 guys did. 


Mind-blowing to me how people could get worked up about this team based on a game when your AHL goalie has a meltdown night and plays terrible. Also mind-blowing how much flack Mrazek is getting for it. This is what I hate about call ups, especially extended ones. There's the upside of them getting some real experience, but it has a tendency of coloring people's perceptions of a player unfairly. I still expect Mrazek to be with the Wings full time next season and to come out of camp in a backup role looking great.


And I'm most certainly not scared of literally any team in this league because of a silly game like this.

#2567096 Franzen on IR

Posted by gcom007 on 30 January 2015 - 12:24 AM


You are absolutely correct.  That was actually the reason the Wings had to play out the string with Sammy's contract.  He was still considered injured during the buyout window.  


It's sounding more & more though that Franzen's career could very well be cut short by concussion symptoms.  If that's the case, the Wings will get cap relief with the sole exception that they'll need to be at or below the cap with Franzen's salary included for one day at the start of each season which is what Philly & Boston have to do with the Pronger & Savard situations.  Well, that is until the trolls in NHL HQ decide to change that rule too eventually.  


Has anything from actual sources suggested his career could be cut short or is it just speculation from fans? I haven't followed this closely, but I also haven't heard anything remotely official about this, and I would've thought that'd be a little bit bigger news around here if true.

#2567095 1/29 GDT - Red Wings 1 at Lightning 5

Posted by gcom007 on 30 January 2015 - 12:19 AM


Take it easy.  We're just talking about the other playoff teams in the division.  But who cares about beating them, right?  


We've gotten points in a lot of those games, so I wouldn't say we're as mismatched as you are trying to suggest. We played a terrible game against Boston the end of December, but other than that, it's been tight. A win and another shootout loss. Islanders beat us once in a 2-1 game. We've been beat by Montreal once good and went to a shootout and lost another time. Tampa Bay tore us up tonight because Mrazek frizted out; the previous game was another shootout loss.


While I'd like to win shootouts, I don't judge the team on their overall hockey game when they lose them. They were tight matches against good teams and we lost in a talent show. Silliness. 


We were in this game tonight until Mrazek, a goalie that's supposed to be solidifying his pro-game in the AHL before coming up next year to play in the backup role, lost his ability to stop a shot. It's no big thing to sweat. Mrazek will bounce back and grow from this and the Wings will be fine. I'd like to see some more wins against better teams as the year goes on, but based on what we've seen this team do, I believe without a doubt that we'll rack up some important wins down the stretch. 

#2567052 1/29 GDT - Red Wings 1 at Lightning 5

Posted by gcom007 on 29 January 2015 - 09:36 PM


I dunno. That 5th goal. A non scoring Dman floats one fromt he blueline. No screen. It almost looked like he completely wiffed on catching it. You know its a bad night when your comparing what was the worse goal against.


I think he's clearly letting his head get in the way. Sometimes goals sneak through on even NHL starters, but the guy has had a few rough starts in a row, gets scored on early tonight, and then gives up another weaker goal, and then he really crumbled. It's senseless trying to defend him on the goals; he should be making those saves. But what's more important to me is that we know he's definitely capable of making those saves.


This is a tough test for a 22 year old AHL goalie to be going through, and I think tonight we really saw him hit a low point where everything has clearly gotten to his head and affected his ability to perform. I think last few games, while certainly not great, were significantly better efforts than what we saw from him tonight. Tonight, he fell apart. 


Hopefully this is the low point and he starts bouncing back. The coaches and team will be on it, so I'm hoping and expecting him to start picking it up again after tonight.

#2567041 1/29 GDT - Red Wings 1 at Lightning 5

Posted by gcom007 on 29 January 2015 - 09:26 PM

Oh no, one bad game against another top team and it's time to lose our s*** again!


Come on...


Not saying the team has been great, but Mrazek has been utterly lousy tonight. That's why this game is so lopsided. What can you do?


We've seen this team play great and find ways to win consistently enough this season to justify the belief that they're a top team this year. They've even found ways to win games where their AHL goalie, who's playing because their 1 and 2 goalies are injured, started skidding out on the learning curve.


So we're really going to s*** on them tonight?


Last few years, I'd get it. It was true. This year, it's not. I know it's been awhile since we've been a legitimate top team, but it's time to learn to roll with a few punches again. Games like this happen to the best of teams once in awhile, even with their starting goalie.


We'll be fine.