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#2523953 GM moves

Posted by mackel on 15 June 2014 - 04:38 PM

Not trying to say anything, but look at the ratio of North American players to Europeans on the teams that recently won the cup and look at the wings roster. There's a trend here.


This is the wings 2008 roster.
20 North Americans and 13 Europeans. It's been downhill since the gritty North Americans have been departing. Osgood, chelios, draper, maltby, McCarty, rafalski, drake, Downey, and Stuart. Again, Stuart was an acquisition that season in February. Holland making moves to improve an already fairly stacked team. Something he should be doing more of.


The only change I'd make to your analysis is that we need more Canadians on the team. The primary make up of the team presently are soft skilled euros and 3rd/4th liners from in and around Michigan.

#2519315 Wings will buy out Tootoo, not Franzen.

Posted by mackel on 05 May 2014 - 08:10 PM

Like I said, even if the offer was real the cap space wasn't there. He could have offered Hudler $300M. No matter what, keeping Hossa would have meant losing someone else on the team (and Hudler wasn't, the first year). 
Fact is, Hossa has produced 28g and 72p over Franzen in 5 years. 5-6g, 14-15p per year for an extra $1.3M in cap and two extra years of length. Franzen is far, far closer to Hossa than you or many others would like to believe. 

What seems to get lost when people look at the stat lines on the back of these players hockey cards is the context of the production.

Hossa is a game breaker, he can and often does for Chicago have a great shift... Make something happen, ie score, setup a goal, hold the puck down low, play hard defensively etc.

Franzen, he floats, gives the puck away, won't throw the body, and puts up points in bunches... Especially when a game is effectively either already won or lost.

Bottom line I'd rather have Hossa get a goal in a tight game than have Franzen who scores a goal to make the score 5-2 in a loss.

#2504129 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by mackel on 31 March 2014 - 11:51 AM

When I was watching the trade deadline coverage on TSN, Bob MacKenzie said as clear as day that the Red Wings felt Jarnkrok wouldn't play for the organization. He wanted big time minutes in the big league, that wasn't going to happen with the Wings so he wanted out.

We traded a player who might be good, but who didn't want to play here. It's that simple no need for all the dramatics.

#2473767 Has anyone noticed this trend? 3 years now

Posted by mackel on 17 January 2014 - 11:41 PM

How does training avoid Darren Helm's wrist injury?  Or Pavel Datsyuk getting clocked in the jaw? Or Patrick Eaves taking a puck to the face?  I realize people are upset by the injuries and are grasping at straws, but there just isn't any solid evidence that the Wings aren't well trained. Just exactly how do you train to avoid a concussion?  Sure you can play smart to avoid open ice hits, but these aren't Eric Lindros/Scott Stevens type hits.  I think the increased awareness has quite a bit to do with more players missing due to concussions.  

See the word "GROIN" mentioned 1000x above.

#2467165 12/21 GDT: Red Wings 5 @ Maple Leafs 4 (SO, yes, SO)

Posted by mackel on 22 December 2013 - 12:42 PM

No, they shouldn't have their own guys on a national broadcast.  Glen Healy shouldn't be trashing the Wings all game and cheering for everything the Leafs are doing.  The announcing should be 100% unbiased.

It's a Canadian, specifically a Leafs broadcast... Get over yourself. The Red Wings broadcasts are biased I don't see you complaining about that.

#2465875 12/17 GDT: Ducks 5 @ Red Wings 2

Posted by mackel on 17 December 2013 - 09:56 PM

Great Cleary scored. I'm sure he'll have a contract extension waiting in his stall after the game.

#2465832 12/17 GDT: Ducks 5 @ Red Wings 2

Posted by mackel on 17 December 2013 - 09:18 PM

I want to know why we have so many injuries.  We experienced this same scenario last year. :glare:

I wonder if our training staff is part of the problem. Some of the injuries are obviously not related to them but with the trend of the last few years I'm starting to wonder if they need to be looked at.

#2463499 I'd like to talk about this off-season/next season

Posted by mackel on 11 December 2013 - 05:51 PM

How about this... Trading Howard to the islanders for Vanek (conditional on assigning an extension). Resign Gus for 2-3 years and platoon him and Mraz 60-40, 50-50, 40-60 to ease Mraz into the league.

#2462613 2014-2015 NHL salary cap projection

Posted by mackel on 09 December 2013 - 09:33 PM

What's the over/under we'll use this new cap room to resign our dead weight... ala Quincey, Cleary, Sammy, Bert, etc

#2460246 The Dan Cleary Hate Zone

Posted by mackel on 02 December 2013 - 09:09 PM

[quote name="Opie" post="2460178" timestamp="13860

This is the same Dan Cleary that was one of the top point getters last post season!

To borrow a financial term for cleary's playoffs it was the ole "dead cat bounce"

So by quoting me and then asking what my post had to do with the topic is not disagreeing with me?
I apologize for the misunderstanding!
BTW, I hate the "Eye Test" answer that is a BS answer that is impacted by your own bias and perception, which is impacted heavily by a pre-conceived notion of what Cleary is or isn't doing!

Wait, Nyquist is being benched for Cleary?? WOW I must be watching a different Red Wings Team!
BTW this team no longer has a gluttony of forwards, that argument was valid in September, but now Tatar and Nyquist are playing bigger roles than Cleary on this team!
Another BTW, I have no issues with Cleary in the Pressbox when the Wings are healthy, but as of right now what better option is there?

Eaves, Tootoo, Glendening. There's 3.

#2440672 Steve Yzerman wants Game Misconduct penalties for fighting

Posted by mackel on 02 October 2013 - 06:18 PM

I think the problem is with "fighters" not fighting. I have no problem at all with a guy like McCarty, Shannahan, Drake, Big E, etc having the odd tustle when the chips are down.

I do have a problem with guys like Parros, Orr and the like who have no business being in the NHL. These guys are in the league exclusively to fight, any points they earn or plays they make are minor miracles.

I like tough hockey players who can fight when called for, I don't think a player who can only fight at the NHL level has a place in the league.

#2420917 Dreger: Filppula looking for $5.5m/season over at least 7 years

Posted by mackel on 19 June 2013 - 09:18 PM

Knew I forgot someone. So the starting roster will probably look something like

Franzen - Datsyuk - Brunner
Cleary - Zetterberg - Sammy
Abdelkader - Helm - Betuzzi
Miller - Emmerton - Tootoo

Kronwall - Ericsson
Kindl - Quincey
Smith - Cola


Seeing the name "Sammy" on that roster almost makes me sick... What about Tatar? Isn't he out of minor league options?

#2388382 Dekeyser Nickname Time

Posted by mackel on 23 April 2013 - 02:13 PM

"The Kaiser". As in emperor.

And if he's playing well. We could always say that "the kaiser" is on a roll...

#2359692 Trade Deadline buyers or sellers?

Posted by mackel on 23 February 2013 - 12:17 PM

I'd love to see the type of sell off the Ottawa Senators did a few seasons ago. Trade players for prospects and picks. Insert your high quality farm hands into the lineup. Draft high get some elite level talent and move on. Of course their path was a little easier with Karlsson in the pipeline but we have some high grade kids also. They kept Alfie and a few other star vets to help the kids, which we can easily do as well.

#2353446 2/9 GDT : Oilers 1 at Red Wings 2

Posted by mackel on 09 February 2013 - 08:02 PM

Did anyone else watch the game on CBC? Canadian hockey coverage is the worst! They're so pro Canada with their comments that it really makes them look stupid. All game long they talked about Lidstrom retiring, how bad the Wings PP and PK was (after only 10 games), fast the Oilers are, and have the 4th best PP in the League. They also made a comment about how the Wings are retooling and the Oilers are ready to win now. :glare:  Last I checked, the Oilers are still in the bottom 1/3 of the Western Conference. What's taking their rebuild so long?
Canadian stations (CBC and TSN) seem to have an agenda before the game starts, they don't call the game as it happens. As a Canadian, it's embarrassing.
To reply to all their stupid comments, the Oilers PP sucked today! They played sloppy all game, and had way to many turn overs.
The best announcers are ones you don't really notice. They let the game control the broadcast. Mickey, Ken, and Murph have to be amoung the best in the League, they just seem to enjoy themselves, and the game of Hockey. You won't find a better broadcast team out there then them.

As for the Wings, I think the first game was a wash, that wasn't this team. Take away Game 1 and we're 6-3-1.

I think it's a matter of perspective. You don't notice Ken and the gang because you agree with their take on the game... They are broadcasting the game to the red wings home market. The CBC broadcast is geared toward their home market Edmonton and Canada more generally.

As a wings fan I could see no more bias toward the Oilers on CBC than toward the Wings on an FSD broadcast.

Use the Chicago crew as the bar. They are disgustingly "homer" in their call of the game. The CBC broadcast today was not even on the same planet as that bar.