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In Topic: Franzen back on ice

Today, 03:24 PM

But, but, but, he's had 1000 concussions! His family clearly doesn't have his best interests at heart. What about the fans? Doesn't he care about what we think? I'M concerned for his well being! And I am not fully supportive of his decision! Ya know, cause I care about him so much...
Anyway we definitely should have gone with Hossa back in 09. Kenny sucks.
These reports are making Franzen sound far from lazy...

The sarcasm and straw man fallacies from the Franzen police are getting old.

Switch out Cleary for Franzen in these discussions. Cleary still thinks he can contribute to the Red Wings. He likely has the full support of his family too, so I guess we shouldn't express any hesitation or criticism of his wishes. After all, he and the team know better than we do. And he's been training hard this off season after all.

Heaven forbid someone state an opinion about a player on a Red Wings fan forum, even if it contradicts the wishes of the player himself or his family.

Okay I don't know what beef you guys had in 2009 about Hossa/Franzen, since I didn't join here till 2013 but apparently this is some deep seeded stuff. 
S*** must have gone down bad in these forums the last half decade or so. 
Can we stick to the matter at hand please.
Do we know of any athlete who has done this similar type of approach? It sounds like he's not cleared but he's pushing himself. What I'd like to know is, if this has worked in the past. 

And I mean specific to traumatic brain injury, not "I hurt my back" or "my knee is bad"

I've not heard of any athlete who's done this kind of approach, not to say it hasn't happened.

Though honestly it seems pretty stupid on Franzen's part if he's not working closely with a neurologist throughout his rehab. I understand the reasoning he's using but is it based on any evidence or sound medical reasoning? He may be delaying his recovery instead of accelerating it.

In Topic: Franzen back on ice

Yesterday, 02:08 PM

Here's the mlive article with the video interview.

Someone needs to start a kickstarter campaign or something so mlive can buy a decent microphone. The reporter's questions are loud and clear but Mule sounds like he's answering from a bathroom down the hallway.


In Topic: Franzen back on ice

Yesterday, 12:56 PM

To add some levity to this discussion, note Franzen's comment about himself on instagram.


In Topic: Franzen back on ice

Yesterday, 12:40 PM

I didn't see a link to a specific article so here's a piece from Sportsnet. 






Detroit Red Wings forward Johan Franzen says he's still dealing with symptoms of the concussion that ended his season prematurely last winter, but his goal remains being cleared for the 2015-16 opener next month.

Franzen said he's making progress every week, but the 10-year veteran also told reporters he had to go home and sleep for the rest of the day following a four-hour workout last week.
Without rehashing the more general argument about his health and future, if he's having to sleep the rest of the day after a hard workout, being in the lineup for the season opener seems extremely optimistic.  Especially since I assume he won't be medically cleared if he's still experiencing post-concussion symptoms. 

In Topic: Curtis Glencross regrets taking hometown discount

31 August 2015 - 09:40 AM

No he did'nt say he's struggling, but why say those things? Pretty pointless. Does he expect sympathy because he left money on the table and now he regrets it because teams aren't throwing big contracts at him and he's still a UFA with training camps looming? He got paid $10 million dollars to play hockey for four seasons. He should just keep his mouth shut.


Because he was being interviewed? 


If people are so bitter that these athletes are paid so much money for playing hockey, why even watch the sport?  You're the ones ultimately paying their salaries.


Hockey is entertainment.  And entertainment is big business.  These guys come from an elite talent pool and are paid accordingly.  Technically they're actually underpaid because their salaries are artificially restricted by the cap.