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In Topic: Dekeyser signed. 2 yrs $2.187 million AAV

16 September 2014 - 06:54 PM

Yes it is.
 
Any player who plays better gets better deals.... duh
 
Signing DD to this term at this price is GREAT. Complaining about his possible next deal, when he hasn't even played one game under this deal, already, is just digging for something to be mad about.
 
Couple that with the ridiculous "Holland's a low-baller" speak going around, and yeah it's annoying.

 

No, it really isn't.  If that's what you consider complaining, no wonder you think everyone here was doing it.  It was an offhanded comment in a post.  Other people were speculating that Dekeyser's camp was holding up negotiations but that wasn't complaining to you.

 

And do you think you're improving the nature of discourse here with your sarcasm and condescension?
 

 

Let me make this clear to everyone here for the millionth time. 

 

If you don't like a post about someone criticizing the Wings and feel compelled to respond, politely refute the points they are making.  DO NOT insult or attack them personally.   If you are unable to respond without doing  that, simply ignore the post or put that member on ignore so you won't see any of their posts. 

 

Like it or not, criticism and complaining can be on topic.  However, complaining about complaining or insulting how someone posts is never on topic.  Ever.  Posts that are complaints about other posts will be deleted.  If the mods repeatedly have to delete posts by the same member, that person will be suspended.

 

If you think LGW has gotten too negative, complaining about it only adds to the negativity.   Instead try making a thoughtful and constructive post about hockey that makes the site a little better.


In Topic: Dekeyser signed. 2 yrs $2.187 million AAV

16 September 2014 - 06:02 PM

 

Possible future complaining? It already started with the "He's gonna demand a ton after this deal"

 

What post are you referring to?

 

And that really is a complaint to you?   If Dekeyser develops in the next couple years then he will very likely get a big payday next time.  It's off-handed speculation that's based on history.  It's the nature of bridge deals.

 

 

 

 

 


In Topic: Dekeyser signed. 2 yrs $2.187 million AAV

16 September 2014 - 05:29 PM

Never in doubt.

For anyone keeping track, that's DD + Tatar + Sheahan all wrapped up for less than 6M/year.

Hollands RFA dealings continue to be impeccable.

Exactly. Now the talk will be about how DeKeyser will walk in 2 years because Holland low-balled him. Anyway, moving on, I'm glad the deal is done.

If Alfie does retire this gives Holland a little cap space if he could ever swing that deal for a top four D man.

 

So you're complaining about some possible future complaining?  Not really a whole lot better. 

 

And you're also ignoring that you basically blamed Dekeyser for the holdup with zero  information, which is no different than those blaming Holland on no information.  

 

 

^ Exactly.

 

I love DD but if any of you armchair GMs think it's easy to negotiate a contract with a kid who has only played 70 games or whatever, then you're snorting the crack dust, plain and simple.

 

To me, DD is to the D what Tatar is to the offence. Both have had similar career arcs so far, except Tatar has a Calder Cup MVP under his belt and almost scored 20 last year in his first almost full season.  

 

If you ask me, something like 2.75-3M/year for 3 years would have gotten this deal done a month ago. I have a hard time thinking Holland wouldn't offer that. Makes me think that it's DD's camp that is being unrealistic, not Holland.

 

Had Holland made that offer you were right that it likely would've been done a month ago, but Holland wasn't offering that.  Seeing what Dekeyser signed for, it's pretty obvious that he wasn't major holdup.

 

 

 

And to be overly, explicitly, redundantly clear. I'm not blaming Holland for how things went.  Dekeyser got signed in time for camp, and for less than I would've expected.  In a couple years if he develops into the solid player it looks like he will be, I'm guessing he'll get his pay day.  Can't wait to start the season.  


In Topic: Dekeyser signed. 2 yrs $2.187 million AAV

16 September 2014 - 04:34 PM

Assuming the amount is correct I can guess what the holdup was.   Dekeyser will be making less than Kindl.

 

I'm guessing his next contract will be a biggie if he stays in Detroit. 


In Topic: Dekeyser signed. 2 yrs $2.187 million AAV

16 September 2014 - 04:29 PM

Please link to a source when posting about signings or trades. 

 

Like this:

 

Danny DeKeyser and Detroit Red Wings agree on a 2 year deal at $4.375M total. #TSN

 

 

BREAKING: The #RedWings and Danny DeKeyser have agreed to terms on a two-year deal.