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#2621923 Jonathan Quick on snipers, including Datsyuk

Posted by haroldsnepsts on Yesterday, 01:23 PM



Z's a decent sniper, he's got a hell of a slapshot and backhand. But I'm not surprised he wasn't mentioned. He's been on a downward trend for the last 2 years or so and his goal scoring is bad.


The Pav stuff Quick mentioned gave me goosebumps <3. So true. 

I was watching some Ovie highlights and it's so easy to forget how frickin good of a sniper he is. Slap, wrist or snap his shot is sooooo powerful it's ridiculous. Def top 5 all time imo. 


I don't think of Toews or Z as snipers.  I can kind of see what Quick is getting at regarding Toews, but he doesn't really belong in the elite sniper conversation.  He's an all around great player, but if he were as great at being in the right place at the right time as Quick makes it sound, he'd be a more prolific goal scorer.  Toews is very good at everything but not elite in the scoring department. Because he's Canadian and the captain on a multiple Cup winning team he does get overrated a bit with "intangibles."  Kopitar is a similar kind of player but doesn't get nearly the same amount of hype.


I thought the Getzlaf example was really interesting as well.  It shows so clearly how elite players manage to get a shot off by pulling it in and changing the angle so quickly. It keeps it from getting blocked and catches the goalie off guard.  Whereas an average forward would've ripped a shot right into the defenseman's stick or skates.

#2621802 Jonathan Quick on snipers, including Datsyuk

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 29 July 2015 - 02:38 PM

Jonathan Quick has a piece in the Player's Tribune on snipers in the NHL.  It's a good read an an interesting perspective on goaltending.  He picks Datsyuk as one of the snipers to highlight. 






Most guys have a little tell. You look at where the puck is in relation to their feet, or the way they’re bending their knees to get ready to shoot, and you just know what’s going to happen before it happens. But the problem with Datsyuk is that he fools you with his intentions. He will be way out on the wall with his hands, feet, and eyes positioned for a cross-ice pass — and it’s the right decision. It’s what 99 percent of players will do in that situation. So you instantly start cheating your eyes over to where he’s going to pass. Next thing you know — what the hell? — the puck is behind you in the net. He shot it. Who shoots from there? Datsyuk shoots from there.


#2620537 Taylor Pyatt Announces Retirement

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 14 July 2015 - 06:18 PM

If *cough* Franzen retires *cough* then we get stuck with *cough* a very large cap recapture penalty. *cough* *cough*

So *cough* that's a terrible *cough* idea.*cough *


Mule shouldn't retire, but probably should LTIRetire.  

#2620290 Things you would like to see for 2015-16 Season

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 12 July 2015 - 04:16 PM

Kronwall - Green

Dekeyser - Quincey

Marchenko/Smith - Ericsson


We keep our best pairing (D and Q). Ericsson plays on third pair where he's less likely to make errors. Smith would be his offensive compliment. Kronwall and Green just raise havoc on top line. 




Except possibly the Wings. 


On the top pair against top lines Green may wreak havoc but possibly not the kind you're looking for.  Green played 19 minutes a game for the Caps (good for 5th in TOI/game) and 2:45 of that was on the PP.  He also started in the offensive zone 60% of the time.  If he were on the top pair I'm guessing we'd all be pining for the good ol days when Ericsson was there.


Anything could happen and I'm guessing he will be asked to do more on the Wings, but I don't see him on the top pair. Like Helmethead posted, middle pair seems likely, with a ton of PP minutes. 

#2620265 Free agents this off season

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 12 July 2015 - 09:47 AM

We're not turning another thread into jokes about McGrattan.  Stick to the topic please. 

#2619466 EC on paper for 15/16.....

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 07 July 2015 - 02:13 PM

I don't want to go through them all, so I'll respond to just a couple of your assessments. 


I disagree that Ottawa is better.  They lucked their way into the playoffs, on the back of an insane goalie performance, after sucking all year.  Hammond falls back to earth and the Sens go back to the cellar next season. 


Panthers and Blue Jackets BOTH make the playoffs next season.  Boston and Pittsburgh drop out. 


I don't know if Ottawa goes back to the cellar but I don't think they're a playoff team. 


I'd also be surprised if Montreal stays the same.  They were 23rd on the PP and 20th in Goals For.  Their success required a Vezina/Hart/Lindsay award-worthy season from Price.  He doesn't necessarily even have to come back down to earth but just by sheer bounce of the puck they probably won't win as many games unless they find some desperately needed offense. 

#2619249 Babcock's already losing it?

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 06 July 2015 - 02:33 PM

Is this how this place will be for the next 8 years?  Fixating on everything Babcock does and says because he had the gall to leave the Red Wings?  It's like stalking your ex on facebook.


If you set aside the bitterness, the quotes sound like a coach challenging a young player, in the context of Kadri's new deal.


(I couldn't play the video because of TSN's stupid geo lock, but got this from the Toronto paper.)


“It’s a home run for him,” said the new Leafs coach. “He gets to come in and have a heck of a year and put the screws to us. Why wouldn’t he? If I’m him, I’m going to have the best year of my career because I’m training the way I should and living the way I should, then why wouldn’t I have a short-term deal?”


His training has got to match his skill set,” said Babcock. “That’s to all our guys. You can’t take the summer off. I expect our best players to be our hardest working people to set the tone flat out. I’ve told them all that. They understand that. That’s what they need to do.

“This is a big two-and-a-half months for us.”





Love him or hate him, don't those quotes sound like pretty standard Babcock?   Be in shape and be responsible.  All that's missing is "realgud." 


Toronto obviously needs a huge culture change.  Shipping out Kessel was part of that.  This is Babcock sending a message to a young player who has had issues in the past, while also sending a message to the whole team.  In Detroit he had the luxury of guys like Lidstrom, Z and Dats who were not only the best players but also total professionals who worked hard.  The Leafs definitely don't have that.


Don't get me wrong, I think Babs is nuts for going to that mess of a franchise but who cares what's going on over there.  Though I do hope they get good enough to be a legitimate rival with Detroit and lose to use every time. 

#2619113 Nyquist Files For Arbitration

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 05 July 2015 - 05:00 PM


By filing for arbitration, Nyquist not eligible to receive an offer sheet. Will continue negotiating with Wings. Hearings are July 20-Aug. 4


Ansar Khan ‏@AnsarKhanMLive  50m

Wings usually sign the player before it gets to the hearing.

#2619111 Nyquist Files For Arbitration

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 05 July 2015 - 04:55 PM

It's amazing how fast people will turn on a player.


If memory serves, this is more of a basic procedural thing than a real indication that things are going poorly.  By filing for arbitration Nyquist forfeits the right to accept an offer sheet from other teams.  In other words, he's committing to the Wings by filing.  


Today is the deadline to file so the timing is likely a result of that, not something that happened with the Wings.  I'm pretty sure this is something players do that's just a backup plan for a worst case scenario. And again, by doing so he cannot accept an offer sheet from another team. 

#2619030 Red Wings sign D Mike Green (3-years, $18-million)

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 04 July 2015 - 05:39 PM

You have no idea how happy I would be to have kopitar, he is one of my favorite players not on the wings.
He's amazeballs.
I highly doubt he leaves l.a. I see them doing whatever they have to do to keep him, including buying out or retaining a bunch of money on brown, not re-signing lucic.(even though they just gave up quite a bit to get him)

L.A. has a few players on the team that I've always liked... I really like Dwight kings style, and its always amused me that his last name is king playing for the kings ( I'm easily amused), and I've always really liked Jeff Carter... but getting kopitar would be crazy...


Agreed. It'd be amazing if the Wings pulled off a miracle and landed him but I can't ever see the Kings letting Kopitar go.  He should really be wearing the C on that team.  I've been saying that he plays a similar game to Zetterberg, only Kopi is actually 6'3" 225 lbs, whereas Z just plays like he is. 

#2618854 Which Sweater Do RWs Retire First - Feds or Ozzy?

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 03 July 2015 - 11:09 AM

I respectfully disagree about Osgood getting into the HOF.


Me thinks he'll get in some time down the road when it's a 'slow' year, or others more deserving had gotten in - hell - you could argue if this years HOF inductee Phil Housley is worthy?


I have a feeling Housley will be used as precedent in tons of arguments for players getting into the HHOF.  


Housley and Niedermayer are in, but Zubov isn't?  Lindros isn't?  etc.


I don't think Osgood should get into the HHOF for similar reasons that I think Housley shouldn't be in there.  Osgood had a good long career and was an accumulator, but was never considered among the elite. 

#2618815 Holland doesn't expect to be busy this offseason

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 03 July 2015 - 12:27 AM

I'm guilty of it too but it's just another example of how you can't read too much into what these guys say to the press.  It's the actions that matter, not so much the quotes.

#2618777 Red Wings sign D Mike Green (3-years, $18-million)

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 02 July 2015 - 05:34 PM

Wasn't a fan of Kindl but he looked pretty sharp the last games he played. I saw an improvement overall, which is always nice.

Don't wanna judge him to be a lazy bum just yet. Let's see what preseason brings.


One of my problems with Kindl is that for him to look decent he has to play really sheltered minutes.  Last time I looked it up he got the most offensive zone starts of any defenseman in the league.  


He may come out of the game smelling like a rose but it stretches our thin blueline even thinner, and they end up making gaffes.

#2618654 Holland doesn't expect to be busy this offseason

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 02 July 2015 - 09:15 AM

This doesn't bode well for Holland getting rid of Kindl like I hoped. 



Ansar Khan ‏@AnsarKhanMLive  1m

Blashill also likes Kindl's abilities and wants to give him a chance to resurrect his career here.

#2618652 Brendan Smith re-signed 2 yrs $2.75 mill AAV

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 02 July 2015 - 09:12 AM

Ansar Khan ‏@AnsarKhanMLive  1m

Couple notes from Jeff Blashill's availability: Said he likes Smith's offensive potential and will give him shot on PP (in camp) ...