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#2595357 ECQF : (7) Sénateurs d'Ottawa vs. (2) Les Canadiens de Montréal

Posted by haroldsnepsts on Yesterday, 08:31 PM

Ok, can someone explain to me--in a non-biased way without using the word "attitude" or any of its synonyms--why people seem to hate PK sooooo much? Because I *really* struggle to see what is so outrageously offensive about him. I get it--he's similar to B Smitty in that he has immaturity and impulsivity issues, but SO DO A LOT OF PLAYERS. I never see the same vitriol pointed in their direction. Would people seriously not want him on the Wings? Or is he only hated because he's on the Habs? This is an honest question, help me understand.


I'd take him on the Wings in a heartbeat.  I don't know why anyone wouldn't.  The guy is an immense talent. 


He's still got growing up to do for sure but I think the Red Wings culture would help that.  As would getting out of the ridiculous hockey environment of Montreal.  


The diving drives me nuts, but the hate for Subban does seem disproportionate to what he actually does.  And in interviews and behind the scenes footage he always seems well spoken for a hockey player and pretty humble.

#2595302 ECQF : (7) Sénateurs d'Ottawa vs. (2) Les Canadiens de Montréal

Posted by haroldsnepsts on Yesterday, 06:26 PM

Stone is playing? 


That's a shock.  :lol:

#2595187 ECQF : (7) Sénateurs d'Ottawa vs. (2) Les Canadiens de Montréal

Posted by haroldsnepsts on Yesterday, 09:22 AM


T he Senators are not calling for a huge suspension, what they are calling for is simple:

1. either suspend him (didn't happen) or

2. if someone slashes/runs one of their starplayers give the Sen the same penalty and non suspension.


And that's why I'm awaiting game 2 it will be pure hatred, physical and I bet Neil will fight Prust (who is by far my favorite Hab) then go on to either destroy Subban or run Price. Take his 5 min + a game misconduct and the Habs will cry foul...


If someone did that to one of our players (I don't care if it's a star or someone else) I'd be pissed too but the difference is I wouldn't count on the league to do anything, this is hockey big boy sport so I'd rather see one our players handle that stuff on the ice. And even an aging Neil is still extremely good at his role the Habs are in for a surprise tonight.


Even if Neil doesn't do anything with Pacioretty coming back after a concussion people can bet the Senators will "check" whenever possible if is head is right. Btw. this is the same franchise that called the police after Chara checked Pacioretty hard into the boards but the injury was the result of their horrible misplaced rod.


It's easy for us to sit here and say a slash on an unprotected area doesn't hurt well I know this: NHL players have had broken wrists in protected areas because of slashes and as far as I'm concerned you can't fake a broken wrist.


The only thing were I'm agreeing with Subban is that threatening thing ... it's the playoffs and it's hockey threats, trash talk are part of the game. Ray Ferraro had a good piece on that on Leafs Lunch yesterday basically saying in the age of social media people want all the information but only a minority can handle it and most fans would be surprised on what has been said and done during back in the good old days.


It seems like we're agreeing on a few things.  


I've said multiple times I'd be pissed but wouldn't expect the league to give a suspension. I'd want the Wings players to handle it. 


But their coach was threatening the league and the Habs, basically saying if you don't suspend Subban then we're gonna do the same or worse and you better only give us 5 minutes.  I still can't believe he wasn't fined.  The league really let him off the hook on that one.  And I've used the same childish logic growing up when I felt like my parents let my brother get away with something. It was pretty hilarious hearing it from a head coach.


Then calling it a "microfracture" as they continued to lobby the league, which is basically a bone bruise.  But a microfracture sounds like something is broken, which it isn't.  But it worked because media outlets started repeated "Stone has broken wrist," which isn't actually the case.


To be clear, I'm not a Habs fan.  I can't believe some of the ridiculous things they've done as a team and fanbase (calling the cops on Chara is a good example).  The Sens are proving themselves just as big of drama queens.  This series should be fun to watch. 

#2593948 ECQF : (7) Sénateurs d'Ottawa vs. (2) Les Canadiens de Montréal

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 16 April 2015 - 03:07 PM

Seeing that they never do anything to Subban for his dirty play im glad they didn't do anything to the coach or the sens as a team. 


Besides giving him a 5 minute major and tossing him out of a playoff game? 


They've also fined him for tripping and diving in the past.


He's no angel but I don't put him up there with someone like Lucic who's run goaltenders and has repeatedly tried to shish kabob players yambags. 

#2593916 ECQF : (7) Sénateurs d'Ottawa vs. (2) Les Canadiens de Montréal

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 16 April 2015 - 02:00 PM

Mad respect to Dave Cameron for standing up and speaking out, I'd be pissed off too over the Stone injury. I hope the Sens make it painful.




He's as big of an idiot as Subban for threatening both the league and the Habs, especially in the post Bertuzzi-incident NHL.


Let the players handle it on the ice.  

#2593471 Franzen on IR

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 15 April 2015 - 04:44 PM

This team is competing for first in the division, then Franzen gets injured and everything falls apart. He'll be sorely missed if he retires. He's been a truly great Red Wing during his time here. One of the best.



93 should probably be off limits from now on, like 6 and 16


Bored I guess?


Apparently you're going to keep floating them out there until someone takes the bait. 

#2593182 Why so negative?

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 14 April 2015 - 11:39 AM

(Not sure how to directly reply or quote)


Roboturner: This isn't a casino, this is a fan boosting site called lets go wings.


I just don't see the point in taking time out of your day to predict negative outcomes against your team, on your teams fan website.


It's like wearing a Tampa Bay jersey this Thursday because probability suggests they are more likely to win?


To be clear, this is a hockey discussion website.  Obviously most of us here are Wings fans and want the Wings to win, but some of that discussion will involve areas where we think the team is lacking. 


All discussion here is welcome as long as it is within forum rules, including viewpoints that are critical of the team or deemed negative by other members here.


To quote someone, you should see a "Quote" button at the bottom of a person's post.  Click on that and it will open a reply window with their post quoted.

#2593066 S'matter Yzerman, afraid of the jersey you wore for so long?

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 13 April 2015 - 10:14 PM

If Yzerman was firmly against this, this would not be happening. Unless its coming straight from the owner or the president, I'm sure he has veto power. A GM literally runs the team.


They run the team in terms of player personnel, coaches, assistant coaches, support staff for the team like trainers, scouts, etc.  Things having to do with the actual hockey team that plays the game.  But as far as I know they have no responsibility or oversight of things like this, which would be promotion, ticket sales, marketing.

#2592937 Babcock: Petr Mrazek is starting Game 1

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 13 April 2015 - 01:10 PM

I don't know. Mraz just looked 100 times more comfortable out there and with his puck handling ability that does give us another D man on the back end. Howard touches the puck and you always think its going to get put into his own net like the Boston University Matt O'Connor did. Mraz just looks like he wants it more.


His puck handling I'll give you, but I disagree on the 100 times more comfortable.  And I don't know how you can tell who wants it more.  No matter how Jimmy is playing, one thing is for sure is that he's a fiery competitor.  I'm guessing he wanted to hang onto his starting job pretty badly.


I know Mrazek plays an aggressive style but there were games he was so overly aggressive he was taking himself way out of position.  And Mrazek has yet to put together a string of good performances.  Jimmy started turning his game around, had some good games and made huge saves, but then let in those brutally soft goals. 


Neither one won the starting position.  It's basically a gamble of who will hopefully screw up less, or get it together in the postseason in a way they didn't manage to during the regular season. 

#2592921 Brendan Smith

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 13 April 2015 - 12:38 PM

Immature and impulsive. He needs to really work on making better decisions on the ice, he really is his own worst enemy. He has all the physical abilities to be a solid defenseman, but MAN that brain gets in his way every time.


Agreed.  Smith's problems seem to be between the ears.  His decision making is suspect.  And he's had enough experience where a lot of that should be going away.

#2592917 Babcock: Petr Mrazek is starting Game 1

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 13 April 2015 - 12:34 PM

I love it!!! Give him a shot for sure and keep him on a short leash. Old beach ball crotch can get all pissy all he wants. He hasn't played good enough to warrant a playoff start. Babs is going with his best on the ice and that is Mrazek.


I'm fine with whoever plays, but frankly neither one performed well enough to deserve a playoff start.  


The team backed their way into the playoffs and Mrazek backed his way into starting game 1.   Hopefully the kid finds consistency in the postseason.

#2592529 2015 Round 1 Photoshop War: Tampa Bay Lightning

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 11 April 2015 - 09:23 PM

would have never thought stevie Y would be on the joking side of things

he was captain serious before Toews could walk


Actually Yzerman always had a sense of humor.  He was one of the biggest smartasses on the Wings, but he kept it pretty well out of the public.  You didn't really hear stories until later in his career, and especially after he retired.  


Though there is the infamous moment of him taunting Domi from the bench with the heavyweight belt gesture after Domi's rematch with Probert.


Toews just seems like he has zero personality. 

#2592526 Marchenko to play Game 1 in the playoffs

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 11 April 2015 - 09:20 PM

Didn't think he was that good tonight, but heres his shot too.


I didn't see the game but he played over 21 minutes tonight.  More than everyone but Dekeyser.


Maybe Babcock was testing the kid? 

#2592014 4/9/15 GDT Red Wings 3 @ Canadiens 4 *Warning post #888 & 906*

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 10 April 2015 - 11:05 AM

yeah but even still...How many times has a penalty been called on a play like that...Especially when they really couldn't see if it went over the line of the bench or not. And to wait that long just to get baby therrien a chance to complain before they even called it?

I'm honestly surprised they called a penalty on Smith rather than just have the faceoff.

#2591991 Opinion: Petr Mrazek should be starting Game 1

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 10 April 2015 - 09:45 AM

After this game tonight, Babcock and the team have every right to be displeased with Howard. And to top that, going forward they will be even less confident playing in front of Howard because those goals he let in were the difference between us winning and losing. We could be playing Montreal in round 1 and if we play them like we did tonight, I like our chances. But if Howard is in net giving away goals, that effort won't matter. I think Babs should start Petr Saturday to get him ready for the playoffs, no time to give Jimmy a short leash. Give Pete the go. He has been by far the more consistent one and, while he may give up some weak goals, he also wins games more often than not and helps the D out a LOT with his ability to handle the puck. Judging by Babs' comments tonight I think this is the case.

The problem is that Mrazek has not been by far the most consistent one. He can't seem to string together two good games.

Lately it seems like neither one wants the starting job.