Seriously. He basically said that Glendening>Jarnkrok
Which he probably is right now. Glendening is playing a 4th line grinder role better than Jarnkrok could. Jarnkrok has very good two way play, and would be a much better point producer, but the jump from the AHL to the NHL for a top 6 forward is a lot larger and harder than for a 4th line penalty killer. I don't want to say Jarnkrok couldn't bang in the corners and kill penalties I actually think his defensive game is very underrated, but that is not where he's going to make his mark in the NHL. While he's playing well in the AHL, I doubt the Red Wings or Nashville will call him up right now, plug him in on the second line, give him 2 minutes of powerplay time and 16 minutes a night especially if they want to make the playoffs. He's not ready yet, another off season of strength conditioning and he might be ready.
Are people being serious here? Subban is 24 and is can definitely be a franchise defenceman! Yeah he's got some growing up to do but he's won a Norris and would be great in the Red Wings system, and he has been coached by Babcock before. Sure he was sat out at the Olympics but that's because of the depth Canada had with right handed shots (which by the way we like on our defence). Pat Kane also has 'growing up to do' you would argue but on the ice nobody cares, he puts up the points. Similar things were said when Kessel got traded (doesn't fit the system, blah blah blah) and Seguin (immature, doesn't improve his game, blah blah blah) and look at where they are now with a change of setting
With all that being said, there's virtually no chance he ends up in Detroit but if they called us I would put together one hell of a package to land him.
What if we take john Scott, buffalo has to be willing to give him away with how bad he made them look, maybe he will respect the logo and babs coaching and embrace a real opportunity to be on a winning team, can't tell me there's many tougher than him, a 5/6th should do it maybe even package him with ehrhoff
I'd take him.
If you're gonna miss the playoffs, you may as well have fun doing it.
He's apparently fine. Selections come out, he's upset. Then he says he wants out. What other reason would he have?
It's hard to say, maybe he'd been told he was going to make the team then didn't. Maybe they wanted him and Stamkos together, and when Stamkos went down St. Louis was dropped. Maybe it really is just that he felt snubbed given that he's playing at an INSANELY high level the last couple years.
You're right, it's pretty clearly about the Olympics...but I think there's probably more to the story than just "I didn't make it so I'm mad". He didn't make it in 2010 and didn't ask for a trade, so if it's just about being a baby over an Olympic snub...why not then?
Martin St. Louis has been one of the most respected and well thought of players in the NHL for a very long time. I don't think he turned into a ****** bag overnight. Something happened, we don't know what it was. When it comes out, he might be the bad guy...which is fine. But currently there's no reason to think that a career class act all of a sudden decided to act like a baby.
It seems like people are trying to make their case for fighting vs. no fighting by using this incident in microcosm. Truth is, Neil (meathead that he is) shouldn't be suspended for a pretty harmless scrum at the end of the play. Likewise, Franzen didn't "use his stick as a weapon" or "poke a bear" and therefore doesn't really need to defend himself.
If we're being honest it probably went something like this. Franzen was having an awesome game and making Ottawa look REALLY bad at home. Neil, being a fan favorite, veteran, and renowned pest didn't like being shown up at home. As such, he decided he was going to give Franzen a little extra attention in the third period. Franzen, not enjoying being buzzed, clipped, and generally roughed up took a couple of whacks at Neil (as almost ALL skill players do when being harassed, see: Kessel, Phil), and Neil did as he's always been known to do and escalated it into a scrum. At which point the refs took control and tossed them both, partially to make sure nothing more serious happened and largely because the game was out of reach and it wouldn't matter.
No harm, no foul. Opponents of fighting (like me) can call Neil a meathead, and proponents can call Franzen soft, yellow, a coward. But the truth is, this incident is really a poor way of making a case for either.
Neil is a meat head, but Franzen needs to STFU if he's not going to do anything more than talk. Nothing drove me more bat-poop crazy when I played than those guys who would constantly run their mouths but as soon as the game got a little rough they'd run away like a little girl. If you don't want to fight, that's fine, you shouldn't have to, but don't run your mouth after the game.
Is making opponents angry a bad thing? Franzen made Neil angry and do dumb things. So what? The players are on the ice to win games not to try and look cool for fans and follow some vague honor code.
I've also grown very tired of things being said like Franzen having "a purse and lipstick", Samuelsson hurting "his boob", or someone running away like a little girl. Fans often promote hockey of being a "man's game" but yet at the same time it involves all this childish crap like name-calling and fighting. If you ask me that's kindergarten.
Blues got stronger quick and this in the long run may benefit Buffalo with the picks as they are trying to rebuild. Good potential for both teams, just quicker results for the Blues and I for one think Milker deserves to have a good team in front of him.
I actually really like the deal for both teams. Miller wanted out and I think they received solid players in return and picks to use for a future build. You have to admire Doug Armstrong for really going after it this year. I know we're a bubble team this year and the risks associated with trading picks from this position, but it takes me back to the days Holland used to do the same.
I think it's just one of those game managing calls. The game was over and they kept going after Franzen so in the best interest of everyone they took him out of the game. I'm sure someone put this in the GDT but here's an awesome quote from Franzen about Neal after the game:
Franzen had "no clue" why Neil went after him: "He usually steps up when the game is over, tries to be the hero, put his cape on fly around"
I wouldn't be surprised if it was mostly for Franzen's protection. He's scored three goals, it's a blowout, he's probably running his mouth, he's coming off a concussion, and Chris Neil obviously wants a piece of him.