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#2560797 1/6 GDT : Red Wings 4 at Edmonton Oilers 2

Posted by Hockeymom1960 on 06 January 2015 - 06:58 AM

C'mon boys, if you don't win this one I'm going to be climbing the glass and punching a player or two.   :boxing:

#2560770 1/6 GDT : Red Wings 4 at Edmonton Oilers 2

Posted by Hockeytown0001 on 05 January 2015 - 10:39 PM


#2560690 1/3 GDT : Red Wings 1 at Canucks 4

Posted by kipwinger on 05 January 2015 - 10:11 AM

It drives me nuts that not a single member of the press corps has asked or written about this Weiss situation.  Khans busy speculating about all-star ballots, while St. James is making up trade rumors involving Tatar.  Neither, apparently, have the time to ask actual questions about real team issues.  Garbage. 

#2560607 1/3 GDT : Red Wings 1 at Canucks 4

Posted by Dabura on 04 January 2015 - 03:04 PM

Miller stood on his head, our special teams failed us, and man oh man oh man do we need help on the back end.

#2560580 1/3 GDT : Red Wings 1 at Canucks 4

Posted by GoalieManPat on 04 January 2015 - 09:10 AM

Seems like everyone is acting like the Wings got skunked 8-0. Yes the final was not flattering but it was padded with two EN goals. For 50 of the 60 minutes the Wings were the better team by quite a bit. The one reason they lost is because Miller played out of his mind last night. When one of the hottest goalies in the league has that performance you just have to tip your cap and move on. They played ok and far better than the Boston game.


I will agree that though that Franzen is lazy and he sucks.

#2560512 1/3 GDT : Red Wings 1 at Canucks 4

Posted by sjr2012 on 04 January 2015 - 12:27 AM


#2560493 1/3 GDT : Red Wings 1 at Canucks 4

Posted by joesuffP on 04 January 2015 - 12:13 AM

Imagine if we had a defense that contributed to the offense. How many months has it been since we got a shot through from the point

#2560477 1/3 GDT : Red Wings 1 at Canucks 4

Posted by Hockeymom1960 on 04 January 2015 - 12:08 AM

Would love to see Kassian Kronwalled.

#2560467 1/3 GDT : Red Wings 1 at Canucks 4

Posted by CaliforniaWingsFan on 04 January 2015 - 12:04 AM

They just leave Franzen wide open on the PP because they know he won't score lol.

#2560380 CapGeek shuts down

Posted by Matt on 03 January 2015 - 10:05 PM

I've kept in touch with Matt on and off for years (for a short time he wrote about the Red Wings' prospects on this site before the turn of the century and branching out to Rivals.com and eventually RWC). We worked a bit on CapGeek together and this is truly sad news.


Please keep him in your thoughts and prayers. I know the decision made tonight was an extremely difficult one for him....

#2560298 Pens aquire David Perron from Oilers

Posted by Dabura on 03 January 2015 - 01:10 PM

Why the hell would the Wings want David Perron?  You guys are acting like we've lost out on some huge need here.  Perron is a good player, but he's not some big, goal scoring, power forward.  He's an smallish, offensive, skilled player.  We've got so many of those that Stephen Weiss is currently playing on the fourth line.  We have ZERO need for David Perron, so lets not cry over spilled milk. 


He's a right-shot winger in the prime of his career who scored 30 goals for the Oilers. (He got lucky. He'll never score 30 again. But still.) He plays with an edge, likes to agitate, goes to the dirty areas, is a pain in the ass to play against - but he's also skilled enough to be considered a goal-scorer. I'd like him as a gritty complementary winger with good scoring upside. His cap hit's good, he's only signed for one more year past this year, so it wouldn't be a major investment. It'd be a late first-rounder for a guy who could add a dimension to our forward corps that we're somewhat lacking. At the very least, he'd give us some more scoring depth. Basically, I'd take Perron over a kid who's seven years away from playing big, meaningful minutes for the Wings (i.e. the kid we would, and will, take with our first-round pick).


I know - "We should use that first-round pick on a defenseman, not David frickin' Perron." I just have zero faith that that's going to happen. We're not getting Myers, we're not getting Yandle, and we won't move a first for a rental (Green). We're going to sit on the pick, because "there's no hockey store." That makes me a sad panda.


The one thing I "like" about not getting Perron is his hips are a major issue. He might be one big hit away from being borderline useless.


...But we all know he's going to be huge for the Pens, because of course he will.

#2560120 12/31 GDT : Devils 1 at Red Wings 3

Posted by e_prime on 01 January 2015 - 11:55 AM

Well... now that we're all clear in the knowledge that wingsfan1991 thinks that Weiss is hot garbage... the rest of us can go back to discussing why exactly it is that Weiss is not getting appropriate ice time...



I just don't get it.  Weiss was brought in to be a 2C.  He's back in game shape, fought off minor injuries since returning from a couple major ones... and now, with limited ice time, he's putting up points... but he's not elevated in the lineup  What gives?


Jurco's a rookie... put him on the fourth. He shouldn't mind.

Helm and Abby are energy/banger guys, rotate them onto the fourth. They'll still be effective players.


Instead...  No... let's let a guy who's a proven top-six winger languish on the fourth line with limited ice time.  Makes sense to me... :glare:


EDIT: removal of troll baiting

#2559867 Lines Thread

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 30 December 2014 - 01:49 PM


Because that worked so well last game.

Oh wait, I forgot. Babcock's going to yell at them and tell them to work harder. :glare:

I feel like it's a bit of a conundrum, though. I actually like the look of those lines on paper (except Weiss on the 4th line). What do we change?

-We could swap Weiss and Helm, but I feel like Helm's been playing well.

-We could put Weiss in Franzen's spot, let Franzen sit a game and give Cleary a spot on the 4th, but we know that won't happen.


Or we could do the big jumble and reunite some lines that have worked in the past:

Franzen-Z-Nyquist (worked last year. Mule shouldn't be rewarded with 1st line duties, but these lines are spread out and less hierarchical) 


Weiss-Dats-Helm (our too many Cs line worked when Dats came back from injury)

Miller-Glen-Jurco (Jurco on the 4th looks ugly, but this line had some good push earlier)

#2559866 12/29 GDT - Red Wings 2 at Bruins 5

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 30 December 2014 - 01:17 PM

I criticize Babs quite a bit for his lines and TOI management, but Abby has been just fine this season. 9 goals, 18 points in 30 games is excellent production.

I think the larger concern is guys like Glendening, Miller, Helm and Franzen receiving better linemates and more chances than Weiss, Tatar and Jurco. Last night was the perfect example. The Wings get down a couple of goals, Helm goes into the top-six and then we barely saw Weiss or Jurco. Franzen has one goal in 15 games and is -13 this season. Weiss and Jurco have made just about any line they have played on better, yet they somehow always find themselves in the non-skilled fourth line role.

I agree that Weiss and Jurco deserve a better spot in the lineup, but Tats is on the 2nd line and on the 2nd PP so I don't know what more opportunity you mean there. Glendening and Miller are not receiving better linemates than them. They are the non-skilled fourth line that you talk about.


Franzen's been delegated to the 3rd line where he hasn't been in a long time. You don't want him any lower because Franzen would be pretty useless on the 4th line checking role, in my opinion.


Helm's been fine in my opinion. Always has jump while some have disappeared. Doesn't have hands around the net, but drives the play and creates opportunities.


If you look at most analysis of why we've done well this year, most credit a significant amount to our ability to limit shots/chance and our PK. That's Glendening and Miller - they've been really good at what they do - That's why they've played. Especially in a game like last night where we were under seige - you've got to put the ramparts up which means get our defensive guys out there. It's not like our offence was buzzing and begging for more ice time. But we do need a line shakeup to get some offence going.

#2559796 12/29 GDT - Red Wings 2 at Bruins 5

Posted by GoWings1905 on 29 December 2014 - 09:50 PM

Can't win games when you don't play for an entire period. The Wings better end that bad habit real quick with a ton of road games and tough opponents coming up the next two months. They played well in spurts, but need more intensity for 60 minutes on a consistent basis.

The defense is just sorry, though. That's a problem that can't be fixed with effort or starting on time. Ouellet needs to be up permanently and Holland has to get creative and make a move for a top four d-man after failing to for years. The Wings aren't getting to the next level with this crop of d-men.