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#2181319 Pros & Cons of potential Rafalski replacements

Posted by blueadams on 31 May 2011 - 02:22 PM

I just put this together to get an organized discussion going about Rafalski's replacement. I don't watch a lot of non-wings hockey, so my knowledge of these guys is pretty limited. I just posted pretty brief pro's/con's alongside. If I'm wrong about this or that, don't go nuts...just correct me, I'll probably bow down quickly.

If I had to guess, I'd say that we sign Jovanovski to a one-year contract and then hope to get a chance at Doughty, Weber, Suter, Burns, etc. next-offseason. If we do sign someone long term, I'd like for it to be Bieksa, but I don't see him leaving...and see Pitkanen as the next best option. Would love to hear what everyone else has to say.

Christian Ehrhoff, 28, 6-2, 203, L, 3.1m - Probably the best offensive defenseman in this class, good size, solid defensively; not very physical though.
James Wisniewski, 27, 5-11, 205, R, 3.25m - Very skilled offensively; bad defensively..one-hit wonder?
Tomas Kaberle, 33, 6-1, 214, L, 4.25m - Very skilled offensively; very soft.
Joni Pitkannen, 27, 6-3, 210, L, 4.0m - Probably the best all-around defenseman in this class next to Bieksa; durability/consistency issues.
Kevin Bieksa, 29, 6-1, 198, R, 3.75m - Probably the best all-around defenseman in this class; might be hard to steal from VAN though.
Roman Hamrlik, 37, 6-2, 207, L, 5.5m - Might be willing to sign a one-year contract, solid all-around; not very physical.
Bryan McCabe, 35, 6-2, 220, L, 5.75m - Solid all-around; nothing special.
Ian White, 26, 5-10, 191, R, 3.0m - Solid all-around; nothing special.
Sami Salo, 36, 6-3, 212, R, 3.5m - He'd be great on the PP; not very physical for a giant...durability concerns.
Andrei Markov, 32, 6-0, 207, L, 5.75m - Very skilled offensively, might come cheap; not very physical...major durability concerns.
Niclas Wallin, 36, 6-3, 220, L, 2.65m - Solid defensively; not much offensively, soft.
Eric Brewer, 32, 6-3, 222, L, 4.25m - Solid defensively; not much offensively.
Ed Jovanovski, 34, 6-3, 218, L, 6.5m - Very talented, experienced...might take a one year deal; scumbag.
Scott Hannan, 32, 6-1, 225, L, 4.5m - Very solid defensively, physical; not much offensively.


#2181136 Jonathan Ericsson Appreciation Thread

Posted by Holmstrom96 on 30 May 2011 - 08:41 PM

Ericsson sucks.


#2180854 SCF: Boston Bruins vs. Vancouver Canucks

Posted by Red Wings Addict on 29 May 2011 - 02:51 PM

This series makes me think, "God I can't wait for the draft."


#2180655 SCF: Boston Bruins vs. Vancouver Canucks

Posted by Wings4Life19 on 28 May 2011 - 02:13 PM

Don't want either team to win, so i'll say Vancouver loses in 7


#2180679 SCF: Boston Bruins vs. Vancouver Canucks

Posted by Chairman Maouth on 28 May 2011 - 04:22 PM

Really, REALLY hate vancouver but love Boston! Not sure how this series is going to pan out, but if feb. 26. 2011 is any indication Ill be a happy man!

That was a game where the Canucks out-hit the Bruins nearly into oblivion but lost 3-1 (empty netter). It was also around the time when the Canucks defence was so beat up that they were down to about the number 14 defenceman on the depth charts. Even the call-up replacements for the injured top 6 were getting injured. That game is not a very valid comparison to draw any conclusions from, other than that the Canucks defence is incredibly deep considering they continued to play better than .500 hockey through that time.

Boston deserves this one. My housemate is in heaven, because she's been a B's fan for eons. I hope they bring it back to an Original Six team again. It's been pretty neat to have an O6 team win two of the last three Cups. Let's hope Boston makes it 3 of 4. GO BRUINS!!!!!

Oh yeah, there is one other thing...bears love to eat fish. :lol:

An orca is not a fish. If a bear ever tried to eat an orca it would be taken back into the food chain and converted into a brown slick on the ocean within about 24 hours. :yowza:


#2180529 Tampa Bay vs. Boston

Posted by Hockeytown0001 on 27 May 2011 - 09:50 PM

Gotta feel for Roloson, he was ridiculous this game.


#2180547 Tampa Bay vs. Boston

Posted by SiLkK19 on 27 May 2011 - 10:22 PM

These two teams were out to play, not win an olympic diving medal.


#2180126 Ryane Clowe: Kronwalled After All!

Posted by newfy on 26 May 2011 - 08:41 PM

Good, I hope it hurt like hell and will continue to do so.f****** diver prick.

Clowe is far from a diver lol.

He is a player I would trade any forward on the wings for besides Datsyuk or Zetterberg and he would beat anyone on Detriot up in a fight.

Franzen+Kindl for Clowe sounds great to me


#2180156 Ryane Clowe: Kronwalled After All!

Posted by jeff48109 on 26 May 2011 - 10:18 PM

i bet all the americans on here were cheering hard when Kesler was a beast during the Olympics.


#2180186 Ryane Clowe: Kronwalled After All!

Posted by Doc Holliday on 27 May 2011 - 12:21 AM

I heard the same as well. He doesn't seemed to be a well-liked player in the locker room.


Do you people enjoy just making this stuff up at will?


#2180158 Ryane Clowe: Kronwalled After All!

Posted by Uncle Danny on 26 May 2011 - 10:24 PM

It's not just his trash talking, it's all of his antics. I get that players trash talk, but the classy ones don't.


Dude, go back and watch some old Yzerman clips. He had a mouth for miles -- there is a reason he never won the Byng, and I doubt he defies your definition of "classy."


#2180033 Why no team is likely to offer sheet Doughty, Weber, or Parise

Posted by Bannedforlife on 26 May 2011 - 02:19 PM

He actually provided insight on something a lot of people probably didn't know regarding the CBA, RFA's and arbitration. I sure didn't. So he shared some actual hockey knowledge.

And that somehow offended you?

I wasn't offended by the information he shared but that he decided to be a smug ******* about it. A public service announcement? Since when did it become your job to school all of us on the CBA? Apparently he and Konnan are the ones easily offended by our ignorance and naiveté since they devote so much of their free time to making sure we understand how futile it is to hope for such things.


#2180002 Why no team is likely to offer sheet Doughty, Weber, or Parise

Posted by Bannedforlife on 26 May 2011 - 01:09 PM

...or Parise.

Because they're all eligible for salary arbitration (which protects a player from offer sheets), and if these players are not signed by July 1st, it's likely that will be taken to arbitration (the arbitration award is not likely to be as high as what exposing such a player to offer sheets could drive their salary to). A team has the option to take a player to arbitration once per each player's career (a tool to protect a valuable player from offer sheets during their most valuable RFA period). A player can still choose to go to arbitration any time he comes up as RFA.

This has been a public service announcement.

Thank god you're around to protect all of us from our own imaginations. Now that this great service has been rendered, why don't you start touring around elementary schools dispelling the evil myths of Santa Claus and the Easter bunny. While you're at it, maybe you can share with them the odds of becoming astronauts, or baseball players, or the president of the United States. Much better that they stop dreaming now than to learn the crushing truth on their own.


#2179986 Why no team is likely to offer sheet Doughty, Weber, or Parise

Posted by Datsyerberger on 26 May 2011 - 12:43 PM

Because they're all eligible for salary arbitration (which protects a player from offer sheets), and if these players are not signed by July 1st, it's likely that will be taken to arbitration (the arbitration award is not likely to be as high as what exposing such a player to offer sheets could drive their salary to). A team has the option to take a player to arbitration once per each player's career (a tool to protect a valuable player from offer sheets during their most valuable RFA period). A player can still choose to go to arbitration any time he comes up as RFA.

This has been a public service announcement.

Edit: more information from post below

I was on my way out the door when I wrote that, so I'll offer a little more insight to the process here now that my brain isn't quite as numb as it was earlier.

RFA: A drafted player may opt to become an unrestricted free agent either when they're 27 or when they've acquired 7 years of NHL experience (10 games or more played counts as a year of experience when determining free agency). Their rights can free up earlier if the NHL team in possession relinquishes them.

Offer sheet: Any RFA may be given an offer sheet unless they're protected (either by the team or player) via arbitration. If (and only if) a player accepts the offer sheet, the team in possession of his rights has a chance to match. The match is binding, and so the player cannot be given another offer sheet. If the team in possession declines to match, then the offering team relinquishes draft picks based upon salary. If the team is not in possession of their own draft picks needed for the next draft, they cannot make the offer. They must have the picks for that draft and it must be their own picks, not ones in the same round acquired via trade.

Additionally, a player may not be traded in the year in which they signed an offer sheet (whether they're on the new team or on the old team that matched).

Here's the chart for offer sheet compensation for this year (based upon league average salary):

$1,034,249 and below -- Nothing
$1,034,250 to $1,567,043 -- 3rd round pick
$1,567,044 to $3,134,088 -- 2nd round pick
$3,134,089 to $4,701,131 -- 1st and 3rd
$4,701,132 to $6,268,175 -- 1st, 2nd, 3rd
$6,268,176 to $7,835,219 -- Two 1sts (sequential years), 2nd, 3rd
$7,835,220 and above -- Four 1sts (sequential years)

Arbitration: If a player signs a contract after age 20 (meaning they turned 20 before free agency IIRC) then they are eligible for arbitration any year afterwards in which they are an RFA. If they sign before 20, then they are eligible for arbitration for 4 years after they signed. However, an accrued NHL season (>=10 games) takes a year off of this period.

If the player is eligible for arbitration, he may elect to go to arbitration any time he's RFA. Deadline for submission of arbitration is July 5th.

If a team files for arbitration with a player, the rules are a bit different. The team may only do this once during that player's career. They cannot ask for a salary reduction greater than 15%, and any contract awarded during this period is binding. If it was the player that brought them to arbitration, and not the team, the team can opt to step away from the contract (and automatically do if they don't accept the contract within 48 hours of the verdict).

So what effect does this have on Doughty, Weber, and Parise? All are eligible for salary arbitration. In the case of all three, the team is eligible to file. In the case of all three of these players, if they are not signed by July 1st it likely means that they want significant money and they were not able to work out a deal with the team. If this is the case, the teams in question will most likely take them to arbitration.

Remember, any salary offered under a $7,835,220 cap hit is worth two 1sts, a 2nd, and a 3rd at max. Even if those are likely valuable 1sts, it could be argued that is worth it to acquire any of these players. Seeing as their teams would not want to be forced into signing a contract that high (or lose the players for two 1sts, a 2nd, and a 3rd), and that arbitration will likely not award any of them a salary that high, this greatly increases the chances of all three of these players going to arbitration via the team if they do not have a deal worked out by July 1st.

I hope this provides additional insight into the process for some people.


#2179661 Changes in the offseason

Posted by Majsheppard on 25 May 2011 - 04:00 PM

Interesting possibilities in trading with Philly...

It is possible that Richards or Carter could be moved this summer out of philly...

I know it wouldn't fix the defensive problems, but perhaps I would make a run at Richards or Carter. Both are ideal fits for our team. I believe Carter has more upside and his right handed shot helps.

Both are two-way players that could contribute to the team and help us improve our top lines, which I believe are worse then our overall offense due to incredible depth. I propose using up some of that depth to improve.

Any thoughts on what it would take to get Jeff Carter?

I am wondering if they would take Hudler, Bertuzzi, and draft picks. Bertuzzi and Hudler are Flyers type of players, and taking both of them would help their cap situation now and later. Plus it would be trading two potential 20 goal scorers for one 30 goal scorer, which is good imo. It would also allow us to keep Draper, Miller, and Eaves for another year and still bring in Mursak and Emmerton while improving. Plus it would keep Zetter and Pav together forever, maybe even freeing up Filpulla for top line duty, or a trade for a dman...


It also would help take some of the sting out of losing Raffy on the back end offensively. We could still sign one or two defensemen.