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#2210849 Brendan Smith suspended for 5 games

Posted by Konnan511 on 30 September 2011 - 11:08 AM

I can see it now... come postseason guys who are not top 6 forwards sticking their heads out to take hits to get star players suspended. We all know its going to happen.

Or maybe, guys will learn the right way and wrong way to play defense and how positioning plays a huge part in their game! A perfect example was posted above me.

#2210667 The Official NHL Suspension Thread

Posted by wings1110 on 29 September 2011 - 06:28 PM

I'm loving the idea of Shanahan as the head of safety. I'm loving the full video reviews of hits. I think the majority of the eightish suspensions before are pretty legit. HOWEVER, I think that there's a good chance of too many players getting suspensions with this new crack down. There's nothing wrong with wanting a more safe game and if it is clearly a bad hit or dirty then sure a suspension is in order. But I don't know if I like this "It wasn't intentional... It was careless" Asking a player to watch his elbows on an open ice hit 1 on 1 is asking alot. Especially if the opposing player tries to duck or deke around the hit. I think if it's clearly unintentional it shouldn't be a suspension. This goes for hits from behind when the player with the puck turns away from the check. It's stupid of him to put himself in danger by presenting his back to the player hitting him, and the player throwing the check may not be able to stop his check in time. I know that if it's shown the player with the puck did turn away it's not a penalty, but still. I think we'll just need to wait and see, but I really don't want NHL to turn into crybaby soccer. Violence is a part of the game, enforcers are just a reality the NHL needs to not try to change. Hockey isn't for sissies. As long as the video explanations keep coming and there's no "Come on now" moments (Which there will be) it'll be okay. I just don't wanna see players end up afraid to use some muscle.

hockey is gradually turning in to soccer. ruining the game.

#2210486 Fabian Brunnstrom

Posted by LeftWinger on 29 September 2011 - 05:51 AM

Brunnstrom: AHL player trying to make any NHL roster.
Hudler: proven NHL player working hard on having a better year because he is disappointed with last season.

You can have Brunnstrom. I'm sure you'll enjoy him. Especially twice on Sunday.

Brunnstrom: Pretty much solidified a spot on the Wings (unfortunate for Mursak.)

Hudler: Now even more expendable and if he doesn't play to his "potential" will be traded or not be re-signed. He WILL be a healthy scratch more times than twice on Sunday, guarantee.

Way to go Fabian!

Good luck Hudler, you're gonna need it!

#2210322 9/28 Exhibition GDT: Red Wings at Chicago Blackhawks

Posted by P. Marlowe on 28 September 2011 - 08:23 PM

You mean all of one or two people?

I don't know. Never went and counted... I'm just saying that bitching about Ericsson or Hudler is older and more annoying to me than McGuire's and Milbury's loving of Kane and co.

#2210321 9/28 Exhibition GDT: Red Wings at Chicago Blackhawks

Posted by Konnan511 on 28 September 2011 - 08:19 PM

McGuire and Milbury are almost as annoying as people here whining about Ericsson.

You mean all of one or two people?

#2210319 9/28 Exhibition GDT: Red Wings at Chicago Blackhawks

Posted by P. Marlowe on 28 September 2011 - 08:15 PM

McGuire and Milbury are almost as annoying as people here whining about Ericsson.

#2210099 Kindl

Posted by Guest on 28 September 2011 - 09:02 AM

I'd fully argue the +/- thing was mainly due to Rafalski being so dominate in 5v5 play. Rafalski may have played average defensively, but he was completely able to take over even strength play with his offensive abilities, which is why Ericsson had such a good +/-.

You could argue that if you didn't watch any games and only were a stat checker. Babcock used Ericsson in some key situations including the PK, and gave him a fair amount of ice time overall. Ericsson had his fair share of bone head plays, but he's not as bad as people try to make him out to be. As proven already, Ericsson is blamed for costly giveaways when he's not even on the ice taking his shift. I've read this a few times in past GDT where people blame Ericsson for stuff when he wasn't even on the ice.

Ericsson ain't Pronger, but he ain't Lebda either. He's a decent defenseman that Holland and Babcock are happy and comfortable with. You'd think he's a maniac baby killer after reading a few posts in this thread....

#2210009 The Official NHL Suspension Thread

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 27 September 2011 - 03:26 PM

Who here said he was an enforcer? Nobody.

The fact that teams can start phasing out "enforcers" who's sole job was to beat the s*** out of players like Wisniewski (sp?). Now those type of players are being punished on an entirely new level and costing them their careers. If Wiz comes back and pulls this same stunt again, his next suspension could be a year off without pay + fines... perhaps bankrupting said player. Shanahan is making a statement.

Players can still fight without dressing 'enforcers'. More skilled players will play instead of unskilled goons. That's progress and the direction the new NHL is (and should) go. Who wants to see star players careers end short by retards who can't play hockey or by dirty players?

The fact is, GMs won't need to blow money and roster spots on Downie type players anymore because Shanahan is taking out the Ruutu's and Cooke type players antics out of the game. If these players cost their teams (Wiz sitting in the press box instead of playing hockey is hurting his team) GMs are going to avoid signing those type of players in the future because they are more of a liability than their worth.

This is the direction the new NHL is going and it's brilliant on Shanahan's part to start enforcing this. Hockey just got better!

I highly doubt it.

Wisniewski is a guy that can score a lot of points from the blueline. He's overpaid, but guys like him will always have a place in the game because he's a good player. Downie is an ******* and a dirty player, but he spent time on Tampa's top 2 lines last season, and put up good numbers. Cooke is a well liked guy in the Pens lockerroom. These players will always be around whether they get suspended a lot or not, because they are important to the team when in the lineup.

As for pure enforcers, they'll be around as long as fighting is allowed in hockey and as long as they're paid cheaply. I want the NHL to be more physical than their European hockey counterparts. That's one of the things that makes me love hockey. I like seeing pure goons fight. What I don't like is people like Ruutu, Cooke, Tootoo, etc. but those players won't ever disappear as long as they can contribute something else to their team. Now a guy like Shelley, I don't mind seeing get punished, because he's a pure goon but he's also a dirty player who has no business being out there.

What I really want to see is an elimination of both the instigator rule and the suspension for instigating at the end of games. Then maybe Wisniewski would have challenged Clutterbuck and not tried to take his head off. I think the instigator has resulted in many injuries that could have possibly been avoided. Of course you can still get injured in a fight, but when a guy is blindsided to the head, he has no chance of defending himself.

#2209975 The Official NHL Suspension Thread

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 27 September 2011 - 01:23 PM

I don't really agree with that conclusion either. Fights will not be eliminated by this but hopefully some of the more reckless behavior will.

The comment I responded to was an idiotic thing to say.

There were a lot fewer cheapshots 20 or 30 years ago then there are now, despite the fact there were tons more enforcers and fights in those days. Do people not understand that fact?

And a guy like Wisniewski isn't even an enforcer, so I don't see how this will deter players like him from playing in the NHL. Guy is going to be Columbus's top D-man this season. It was just a stupid comment. What Wisniewki should have done is fight Clutterbuck, instead of blindside him. That's what fighting is for, if you feel your teammate needs to be defended. Instead, he blindsided the guy.

Guys like Cooke, Ruutu and Kaleta are also not going to be eliminated from the game. Those guys can actually take a regular shift, but are dangerous dirty players. They're the ones who have caused the most concussions and injuries over the years. Not the pure goons.

#2209950 The Official NHL Suspension Thread

Posted by Bar Down on 27 September 2011 - 10:32 AM

Im in no way saying that some suspensions shouldn't occur. But do you really thin Wiz should get 8 games for that? suspended? yes prolly, 8 games? no

And instead of suspending everyone, they could just bring the game back to pre lockout, those barely noticeable holds can prevent injuries. I just want hockey 2 be like it was in the 90's.

Absolutely Wisniewski deserved 8 games for that. He targeted Clutterbuck's head with his elbow after the game had ended. Clutterbuck didn't even have the puck, either.

On top of that Wisniewski has been suspended four times since 2008. He's a meat head.

#2209809 9/25 Pre-Season GDT: Chicago Blackhawks at Red Wings

Posted by wings1110 on 26 September 2011 - 02:58 PM

Apparently Bud Light is now served at the Joe in addition to Miller Lite due to the advertisements on the boards.

I know, I know, you don't care.

I do! beer and hockey are my favorite things! and ***** of course!

#2209690 9/25 Pre-Season GDT: Chicago Blackhawks at Red Wings

Posted by LeftWinger on 25 September 2011 - 08:58 PM

Nice to see Ericsson off to a strong start.


#2209531 Filppula is "too nice".

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 25 September 2011 - 12:42 PM

Filppula's favorite Die Hard line.........

"Shoot the Glass!" :hehe:

#2209361 Wayne Gretzky's Trick Shots

Posted by lookalive07 on 23 September 2011 - 11:39 PM

I think some of those might be fake.

No, it's definitely not shopped, I can tell by the pixels and I've seen a lot of shops in my life.

I lol'd though.

#2208819 Mike Modano announces retirement

Posted by toby91_ca on 22 September 2011 - 11:49 AM


He wasn't better than Chris Chelios. He wasn't better than Mark Howe. He wasn't better than Frank Brimsek. He wasn't better than Pat LaFontaine. I'd probably put him fifth though, just ahead of Beezer and Barrasso. Ryan Miller is quickly moving up that list though.

What I find interesting is how you pretend that your "opinions" are facts, it's strange.

By the way, no love for Brett Hull? Or do you consider him Canadian and not American?