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#2129547 Jonathan Ericsson Watch Thread

Posted by wings1110 on 12 March 2011 - 02:59 PM

I honestly dont think he has been that bad, hes been much better this year than last ye, if he was more physical and used his size he wouldnt be all that bad. I dont know how all this hate is on Ericsson when we have kindl, kindl is worse thanf****** lebda for gods sake. Now last year i think E was awful but hes been better, or im jusst paying attention to how s***ty kindl is and therefor dont notice his s***tiness?

#2129546 Jonathan Ericsson Watch Thread

Posted by Drake_Marcus on 12 March 2011 - 02:58 PM

If were talking about last season, I agree. He was awful. He took a major step backward last season, and now some steps forward, but is not where I had hoped.

He kills penalties, plays a lot of minutes with mostly solid defense. It's just then he makes this incredibly stupid decision, like the backhand pass, that overshadows his good play. And as I mentioned, he seems to do it more as the game wears on. So I worry about his focus and hockey IQ.

Right now I think he's an acceptable bottom pairing guy. He doesn't look much different than Salei out there, who is a 13 year veteran and an okay bottom pairing d-man. Actually Ericsson reminds me of Lilja when he first got to Detroit. Decent on the PK, but not physical enough, and can ruin a solid performance with an unbelievably stupid play.

Much like Lilja, I don't know what Babs needs to get it through his skull, but Ericsson plays better when he plays simple. Lidstrom didn't win 6 Norris trophies by being flashy. He just makes the right, simple play almost every time. I'd love for Ericsson to use his size and start punishing guys, but even if he can just consistently play a simple game, he can be a solid 4-6 Dman.

I have to agree with you on all these points. I think his biggest issue is focus. His hockey IQ isn't bad offensively but he doesn't always see the play develop in his own end and it bites him in the ass. Sometimes it's obvious he's a converted forward.

People here always rag on the 3rd pairing defensemen because hey-- they're like sooooo bad compared to Lidstrom. But Lidstrom makes six times more money than them for a reason!

E's been a solid 3rd pairing guy who's been playing outside his comfort zone since Rafalski's been injured. Instead of playing bottom pairing minutes E's been playing top 4 mins (last night he was 3rd amoung defensemen in mins played) and his discomfort doing so really shows.

Ericsson started the season really strong and managed to contribute offensively. As I've always said-- he starts to doubt himself and lose confidence when he isn't putting points up. We're seeing this all over again. One place he was very effective in Grand Rapids is the PP. Hell, he was strong on the PP in the 09 playoffs too. Give Ericsson some power play time instead of Kindl and let Kindl get some NHL PK experience. It definitely wouldn't hurt Kindl's development to let him play some time on the PK. It's not like he's producing on the PP right now.

The fact remains that Ericsson's logging a ton of even strength time on ice. He's averaging 17:08 mins/game of even strength ice time. That's third on the team behind Stewart (17:13) and Kronwall (17:20). Last year E was 6th in even strength time on ice among the defense (14:37 min/game). Overall he's playing 2 mins more per game on average. He's also second among the defense for +/- with a +10 so he can't be doing that terrible compared to last year. And he still has fewer give aways than Rafalski and Kronwall. :lol:

People need to accept that our 3rd pairing isn't going to be a pair of all-star defensemen. You get what you pay for.

#2131850 3/17 GDT: Red Wings 2 at Blue Jackets 0

Posted by brett on 17 March 2011 - 08:52 PM

37 saves what af****** stud!
I never had a problem with him as a backup. I actually think he plays the puck better than howard

#2131279 3/16 GDT: Capitals 2 at Red Wings 3

Posted by darkmanx on 17 March 2011 - 04:44 AM

There were about eight players between he and Howard. Howard couldn't see a thing. What do you expect?

stop riding his jock.. thats all your posts have been this entire thread. Why not post something insightful yourself ? your as bad as Eva with Hudler.

#2131014 3/16 GDT: Capitals 2 at Red Wings 3

Posted by Detroit # 1 Fan on 16 March 2011 - 07:42 PM

Crymson you dont even talk about the game :lol: You look for people who dont post all praise for Detroit and jump down their throats. Give it up, no one cares.

#2131011 3/16 GDT: Capitals 2 at Red Wings 3

Posted by Aussie_Wing on 16 March 2011 - 07:42 PM

Here it comes again. He was screened and was the victim of a laser shot by one of the game's best pure scorers of the last decade.

I'm not saying you're wrong here, because you're not, but why do you have such a fascination with other posters and feel the need to constantly pick apart comments? :huh:

#2131175 3/16 GDT: Capitals 2 at Red Wings 3

Posted by PrairieDawg on 16 March 2011 - 08:54 PM

Helm for selke! :ph34r:

#2128969 Crosby's family trying to convice him to retire?

Posted by Hockeytown0001 on 11 March 2011 - 05:10 PM

I would be disappointed if that were to happen. Crosby is a whiner, but he's also a phenomenal talent. It would be a shame for his career to end so early.

#2128943 Crosby's family trying to convice him to retire?

Posted by fivetenandagame on 11 March 2011 - 04:21 PM

The ice yes, and all the interviews that have been crammed our way and all that s*** too. I'm ready for him to be gone.

Well then you're looking to be offended by him. And despite what you posted earlier, you're simply not capable of distinguishing between his in game or post game stuff (of which he can be very douchey) and his off the ice stuff where he is very well spoken, humble and gracious.

Not that we need to go scouring the internet for more Crosby but the videos are out there. Away from the ice he seems like just another young, talented, aw shucks kind of hockey kid. Hockey is known for this. This isn't the NBA.

In game, that's one thing. No debating that. Away from the game, I have nothing bad to say about the kid. Handles himself exceptionally well in interviews and has done so since he was 18. That's my opinion anyway.

#2128922 Crosby's family trying to convice him to retire?

Posted by fivetenandagame on 11 March 2011 - 03:56 PM

If he is forced to retire by his family that would be great, I hate that f*****.

LGW, keeping it classy.

Sheesh man, it's just hockey.

#2130526 Lemieux proposes fines to teams for player suspensions

Posted by toby91_ca on 15 March 2011 - 02:35 PM

k... lemme try this from a different angle.

How would you classify these players?
Matt Cooke, Trevor Gillies, Jody Shelly, Eric Godard, Rick Rypien, Tom Kostopoulos

They are the worst offenders of the year.

I'm not sure what point you are trying to make though. Let's take those players as examples:

- Cooke - suspended for hitting from behind
- Gillies - suspended for head shots, two separate times
- Shelley - suspended for hit from behind and for sucker punch
- Godard - suspended for leaving the bench to fight
- Rypien - suspended for altercation with fan
- Kostopoulos - suspended for head shot

I think the idea is that you'd try and get the teams to influence their players not to engage in this type of activity. I doubt you'd have many teams have issue with trying to ensure it's players don't: hit from behind, deliver head shots, sucker punch people or fight with fans. It's a tough sport and sometimes things happen so fast it is tough to avoid, but a lot of the times, it's the matter of making a good decision rather than sucker punching someone or purposely take a shot at someone's head, etc.

#2129794 3/12 GDT: Red Wings 5 at Blues 3

Posted by brett on 12 March 2011 - 10:21 PM

can you assholes hold this lead now?

#2129455 3/11 GDT: Oilers 1 at Red Wings 2 (OT)

Posted by Firehawk on 12 March 2011 - 10:12 AM

So Howard does one better than last time and keeps it down to one goal against, and we're STILL complaining about him? Yeah, he really sucks, doesn't he? I can't believe he let in that one whole soft goal. I mean, there's no reason he couldn't have got us a shutout so that the rest of the team could've taken the night off...what a lazy bum. Trade him.

LOL. And if the wings hadn't miraculously scored a goal by pure luck hit 2 edm players, the wings would have lost on arguably the worst goal Howard has given up this year.

Look at the big picture there pal. Howard has a horrid GAA and a horrid SV%.

I agree. If you want real hockey talk, go over to the hfboards. The hockey fans there are much more down to earth and its refreshing. I come here to discuss the games with fans of the team I love, but it seems here, too many red wings fans have brain damage.

Howard let in one bad goal. Hell, its a goal I let in probably once every two weeks. Anyway, he rebounds and plays solid, yet still gets the shaft. Just further proof of the lofty expectations that wings fans here have on their goalies. In order for a goalie to be great here, 3 of the 4 things must happen every game.

1. A shutout
2. No rebounds
3. Less than 1.50 GAA
4. Greater than a .945 Save Percentage

Print this out and circle the ones that are applicable. If you can't circle 3, he is a bad goalie and should be traded.

This is the most retarded post I've seen here in awhile.

First, don't compare yourself to Howard LOL. You're not an NHL goalie dude, so you are expected to let soft goals in. Second, Howard doesn't play solid. Howard has a horrible GAA. The real fact remains that the wings have not played well and have not been consistent at all over a long period of time, yet you're focused on a very lucky win yesterday, against the 3rd worst team in the league.

People would be singing a very different tune today if we hadn't gotten purely lucky at the end there, VERY DIFFERENT. It would have been a 1-0 loss on the worst goal Howard's ever given up, and people would have been down on the wings offense, and their continued lack of defense, and continued lack of 60 minute play.

IT WAS EDMONTON! Actually, it wasn't even Edmonton, it was the AHL Edmonton team. It was a joke that the wings couldn't score any goals against that team yesterday.

LOOK at the big picture.

#2129355 3/11 GDT: Oilers 1 at Red Wings 2 (OT)

Posted by Tr!PoD#19 on 11 March 2011 - 10:24 PM

Nothing against Nick but Dats should have been the #1 star

He was pretty awful for most of the game.

#2127731 Chara's hit on Pacioretty

Posted by F.Michael on 09 March 2011 - 03:38 PM

great news. crybaby LGWers in tatters.

I'm gonna catch hell for saying this, but for once I agree with the league.