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#2199233 Chris Osgood announces retirement

Posted by stinky fish taco on 19 July 2011 - 06:28 AM

so he's retiring now?

what a pleasant surprise to start the morning. definitely put a spring in my step. the sun's shining a bit brighter, the birds chirping a bit louder.

what a great day.

#2199206 Chris Osgood announces retirement

Posted by Crymson on 19 July 2011 - 12:48 AM

All I'm saying is he got the wins and the team wasn't any worse for his "poor play" which was primarily mid season.

As far as I can recall, he was poor from the start (Edit: yup; see this link for details). He got the wins, sure, but he got them primarily because the Wings had an enormously prolific offense. Conklin soundly outplayed him for most of the season.

#2199080 Chris Osgood announces retirement

Posted by NeverForgetMac25 on 18 July 2011 - 04:14 PM

Anyone who thinks Ozzie sucks is clearly delusional. At the same time, anyone that isn't even the slightest bit concerned for stability at the number 2 spot given his health concerns is no different.

#2199027 Things you're hoping to see more of this season.

Posted by F.Michael on 18 July 2011 - 11:41 AM

I want Jiri Hudler brainwashed into thinking that he's Dino Ciccarelli.

#2198975 Things you're hoping to see more of this season.

Posted by GoWings1905 on 17 July 2011 - 09:02 PM

The Stanley Cup.

#2198974 Things you're hoping to see more of this season.

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 17 July 2011 - 08:59 PM

Less injuries.

More fights.

Not spotting 3 games in a playoff series to the other team.

#2198960 Things you're hoping to see more of this season.

Posted by wingsdiehard13 on 17 July 2011 - 07:54 PM

Howard having as good of regular season as this past years playoffs.

Filpulla putting up 65 points.

Hudler having a good regular season and then walking away as a UFA next offseason.

I guess that last one is more of a prediction.

#2198602 RFA/UFA Signings

Posted by eva unit zero on 14 July 2011 - 08:56 PM

26 pages and I see there is still talk of trading Filppula for Semin? If we need to improve defense, trading one of our best defensive forwards isn't the answer.

If the Wings can get away with trading one of Flip or Hudler for Semin, and not give up any top prospects or first round picks, then that's something to be considered. The Wings have several forwards who are as good or better defensively than Flip, and he is not among the team's best PKers. Flip for Semin as the only roster players doesn't harm Detroit's PK, but improves the PP. Maybe the lines could work out like this:


If it's Hudler instead of Filppula, maybe it works out like this:


#2198663 Taking back a +/- rating

Posted by Shoreline on 15 July 2011 - 08:18 AM

Every so often, I'll mean to give someone a + and in the process of multitasking/clicking too fast/carelessness, I'll accidentally give them a -

Up to now, I usually just find another one of their posts and give them a + to even it out, but I think it'd be cool (if this is even possible) if we could "take back" a rating so to speak...

As I've said all along, whether you support the +/- rating or not, if it is to exist, there needs to be balance and I think it'd be nice if we could tweak it a little to keep it running a little better...

I really don't understand why people care so much about this..

#2198895 Nicklas Lidstrom HHOF Waiting Period

Posted by Nev on 17 July 2011 - 06:49 AM

Jeez Eva, did Messier run over your dog or something?

As for the poster who said Lidstrom wasn't as good as Yzerman. Er, no. Yzerman was, at best the 3rd best center of his era. Lidstrom is, at worst the 2nd best defenceman of all time. Yzerman may mean more to Wings fans for lots of reasons, but no way is he a better player

#2198839 Nicklas Lidstrom HHOF Waiting Period

Posted by jeff48109 on 16 July 2011 - 05:51 PM

No, he's not Canadian.

#2197492 Ranking NHL Broadcasters

Posted by I Red Wings I on 09 July 2011 - 06:40 AM

I might be one of the few, but I'd rather watch a Red Wings game on CBC or NBC... rather than watching it on FSD.

#2198500 The easiest team to root for...

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 14 July 2011 - 11:45 AM

Here are my favorite sports teams.

Detroit Red Wings
New York Yankees
LA Lakers
Pittsburgh Steelers
FC Barcelona

#2198337 Still some noise about Wings picking up a top 4 Dman

Posted by CaliWingsNut on 13 July 2011 - 02:29 PM

This account is usually pretty credible on rumors, at least they have so far.

The only problem I see here, is that I dont believe there is anybody left we could be interested now that we have signed White and Commo. That leads me to think this is wrong.

What do you guys think? Who else is even out there? Would it have to be a trade to get anyone else?

Who's the account?

edit: nvm... saw you put it in the subtitle.

#2198306 Apparently, we were finalists for Vokoun?

Posted by Crymson on 13 July 2011 - 12:05 PM

Right. It may sound like that, but these are all assumptions on your part, so I don't see why you go questioning someone's reading abilities or acting like Vokoun wanted a handout when nothing in the article confirms what you're saying. It's all just speculation.

Boudreau could just as well be announcing Vokoun as starter for publicity reasons after his team s*** the bed in the playoffs once again. With Vokoun they've got a proven goaltender in net (not much playoff experience but that's hardly his fault). That would make me happy if I were a Caps fan, knowing now we've got a promising young goaltender and a solid experienced one.

If a goalie as good as Vokoun takes a discount that big, it wouldn't be surprising he would want some guarantee in Washington of the starting gig, but who knows what the potential offer was to play in Detroit. Holland never even commented specifically on Vokoun.

And to be clear, I'm not assuming Holland just told him no. I don't know what went on at all in any of the negotiations, other than Vokoun signed with the capitals.

The assumptions I made were supported by the article and by solid logic. And yes, I will question the reading comprehension of anyone who comes away from that article thinking, "OMG WHY DIDN'T HOLLAND OFFER TO LET HIM COMPETE FOR THE STARTING JOB???" when Holland almost certainly did just that.

Because Holland can somehow get every single player he wants?

Again, you're making the assumption that Vokoun somehow ruled out signing with the Wings simply because he would not be guaranteed the starting job without having to compete for it. Unless there's some article out there I haven't seen, nothing Holland or Vokoun has said confirms that. It's all just speculation and quite likely that there were other factors involved in his decision, yet you're latching onto this one detail like there has to be some reason that makes Vokoun look bad, just because he didn't sign with Detroit.

If Holland had been able to get Vokoun without declaring him the starter over Jimmy outright, I'm 100% certain that he would have.

Ultimately, who cares? He signed with Washington.

You do. And I think this is a discussion forum. Feel free to correct me if I am incorrect in that.


People seemed to forget what happened in 02 and 08 with a healthy competition among the Wings goalies

2002? Hasek was indisputably the #1 goalie coming in that season. Osgood was put on waivers almost immediately after Hasek was traded for. The Wings never had any intention of keeping Osgood. So whom was Hasek competing with? Manny Legace?

I agree that Hasek and Osgood did great together from '06-'08. However, both were in the twilight of their careers at that stage. The last time we had two goalies in their primes competing for a spot was in 2003. That didn't go well, different though the circumstances may have been.