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#2178962 Brian Rafalski announces retirement after 11 NHL seasons

Posted by HankthaTank on 24 May 2011 - 08:52 AM

Assuming Rafalski really retires, doesn't that leave Eaves as the only right-handed shot on the roster?

Enter: Jan Mursak ;)

But yes, I am not celebrating this announcement today but in fact reflecting on one of the most important pieces to this team's success over the past 3 years. His play in 2008 and much of the 2009 playoffs was simply amazing stuff. Nick and Raf pairing back then was by far one of my favorites to watch all time. Best puck moving I've seen in some time. I realize all of the things Raf went through to come here by taking a discount so he could back to his home state of Michigan and play for his favorite boyhood team. His play in the Olympics was quite breathtaking as well and would have been just icing on the cake for an amazing career to add that Gold Medal too. We will not soon forget the play #28 brought to this team and his tribulations he went through with his knees and subsequently the back as well. I gave him plenty of flack for being a 1 faceted dman but people really need to put in perspective what other intangibles guys like him bring. 6 million is there to spend and that's great but a Brian Rafalski just doesn't replaced right away. Thanks for everything Dearborn's finest Brian Rafalski!!

#2178951 Brian Rafalski announces retirement after 11 NHL seasons

Posted by TheWestWing on 24 May 2011 - 07:50 AM

Oh happy day!

#2178783 Jonathan Ericsson Appreciation Thread

Posted by Holmstrom96 on 23 May 2011 - 09:52 PM

Ericsson really, really sucks.

#2178781 Brian Rafalski announces retirement after 11 NHL seasons

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 23 May 2011 - 09:46 PM

I wish this happened last season.

Then we could have pursued Lebron.

#2178790 Brian Rafalski announces retirement after 11 NHL seasons

Posted by clutchngrab on 23 May 2011 - 10:00 PM

Dunno about you but Torres is a total goon and Id be a bit embarassed to dress a guy like him. He doesnt have an awesome 'stache like Perros but that are brothas from utha muthas if you get my drift.

Torres > skill than Perros + is more of a checker than a fighter.

#2178708 Brian Rafalski announces retirement after 11 NHL seasons

Posted by e_prime on 23 May 2011 - 07:38 PM

Don't shoot the messenger.

Holland has stated he wants to keep E. There are also reports that he turned down two million per year from us...

If Holland is worried about team continuity, which he shouldn't, he might overpay Ericsson.

Now maybe that Bogo trade that was rumored to be on the table could resurface and take care of that for us. Though I doubt Atlanta would want the rights to a UFA for a week in exchange for the rights to an RFA. Even if we through in Hudler and a pick.

Pretty sure that those reports have been refuted, by Ericsson himself.

I think he will try to keep Ericsson. I just hope it's at the right price. I think hope he can grow into the #4 role. He's still not a $2 million/year player though... I hope he realizes that. If not, we can replace him.

#2178661 Brian Rafalski announces retirement after 11 NHL seasons

Posted by Matt on 23 May 2011 - 06:32 PM

I know that at least for me it wasn't an issue of being "happy" that he is retiring -- but despite his point production you knew that his overall health was going to be a serious factor going forward into next season. When he's healthy he's a $6-million defenseman, but when he's not -- and lingering issues this season lead one to believe that he would continue to deteriorate -- he's a major strain on the Red Wings' flexibility.

Looking forward to the offseason, it'll be interesting. One new factor to consider too is that Holland won't be saddled with salary-for-salary player trades. He can afford to take on higher salary players due to the cap space. So the answer may not come via free agency, but by trade.

A Hometown discount is debatable.

It's not. He was offered more than Detroit's $6-million when he hit free agency. (It might've been the Devils to try to keep him at around $6.5-million, but I haven't looked back to confirm.) Regardless, he absolutely took a lower offer to play here. It was a big point made in the press when he signed here.

#2178653 Brian Rafalski announces retirement after 11 NHL seasons

Posted by dragonballgtz on 23 May 2011 - 06:22 PM

I'll still be surprised if Holland goes after Weber.

Brewer, Kaberle, Pitkanen, Bieksa, or Wisniewski.
Have your pick... all affordable.

Kaberle needs to stay the f*** away from this team.

I'm thinking Holland will have to go after a higher end player. Maybe someone like Andrei Markov or go crazy and try for Doughty.

Markov is to injury prone.

#2178647 Brian Rafalski announces retirement after 11 NHL seasons

Posted by Nightfall on 23 May 2011 - 06:18 PM

Keep in mind that Rafalski was 12th in the league in scoring and played only 63 games. Look at his place at the end of the season in total points over the last 5 seasons.

10-11 - 12th
09-10 - 21st
08-09 - 5th
07-08 - 7th
06-07 - 12th

People can knock is defensive game, but he is a point producing machine. I see the same upswing from Brendan Smith as he has the same skillset just in a bigger body.

On a sidenote, I am pretty disgusted with some of the comments here. The "Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out" comments in specific. He helped bring a Stanley Cup to Detroit. He took a hometown discount to come play here. A little respect would be in order.

#2178561 Brian Rafalski announces retirement after 11 NHL seasons

Posted by 10 Minute Misconduct on 23 May 2011 - 04:48 PM

You know Holland will look for a puck moving defenseman with solid defense so realistically Erhoff fits that bill over other guys mentionned above. Rafalski is really under-rated around here tho, just happy for the cap relief.

Too bad Weber/Suter arn't UFA's this year or else i'd be doing back flips right now.

#2178310 Jonathan Ericsson Appreciation Thread

Posted by Heaten on 22 May 2011 - 08:23 PM

Fischer was also 19 years old and still growing into his body, Big Rig is 26 and still a softie. Imagine a 26 year old, 7 year vet Fischer playing in the league, the dude would have been a beast!

Yet he was still the LGWs official whipping boy...

Ericsson has the 2nd best +/- stats among DRWs defencemen. 1st best was his defence partner, Rafalski. Ericsson scored more points in his first two season than Jiri Fischer. Ericsson also had better +/- stats than Jiri Fischer's 2nd year in the NHL.

Both players are clumsy, both players got knocks for not being physical enough at the start of their respective NHL careers. Fischer was younger and had more upside. Ericsson wasn't a first round pick and isn't expected to be a top 2 defenceman on his team. Defencemen don't even start to peak until their early 30s. Lidstrom wasn't even known as a star until his early-to-mid 30s.

What does this mean? That fans (LGWs posters) have unrealistic expectations of players, and don't understand the development process. Bottom line, whether anyone wants to admit it or not, Ericsson is a good young defenceman. He is still learning and finding his identity (the same identity that most defensemen don't find until they get into their 30s). The guy is a damn good bottom pairing d-man, and will develop into a rock solid #4. Holland, Babcock and crew haven't been this patient with him because he's a flop. He's a guy that will be pursued by other teams... but according to the latest report (previous page), he said he was never made an offer by Holland, never rejected an offer, and wants to play for the Red Wings because he knows they are a winning team. So the guy seems to have some loyalty and wants to stay here. And I hope he does re-sign. Because who replaces him may be a flop.

#2178333 Changes in the offseason

Posted by LeftWinger on 22 May 2011 - 09:26 PM

Manny Malhotra shoots right?

To be fair about Williams, he was coming off an almost 50 point season (and shoots right). If I remember correctly, Holland wanted to find a point shot for the PP. I don't think Malhotra fits the bill.

Nicklas Lidström is, in fact, human. So I guess this means Kenny Holland is human too? What is this world coming too????!!?

Finally we hear it, Holland is human and makes mistakes and isn't the Stonewall, Ironclad GM he is rumored to be. Malhotra 1,000,000 X better than Williams... Oh well, lets hope Robo-Holland shows up this off season and doesn't make any human mistakes...

#2178283 Hudler's Future

Posted by Crymson on 22 May 2011 - 07:14 PM

And what, pray tell, might that be?

My, my. Someone's hostile to just about everyone today. Is something wrong?

What's different is that he's no longer willing to play the scrappy, high-energy style that is necessary if he's to score with his size. He floats.

#2178287 (1) Vancouver Canucks vs. (2) San Jose Sharks

Posted by Chairman Maouth on 22 May 2011 - 07:29 PM

You're the only Nuck fan that doesn't realize that Kesler is a massive diver. All of HFBoards knows and even the Nucks main forum knows it. So either 99% of the hockey fan population is wrong, or you are wrong.

Post 416. Previous page.

I can understand the comment though Doc. Kesler does embellish. In this case though, I'm not so sure.


#2178245 (1) Vancouver Canucks vs. (2) San Jose Sharks

Posted by Chairman Maouth on 22 May 2011 - 05:04 PM

Kesler with one final dive. I'm revising my opinion on him. Looks like the old Kesler is returning.

Why would Kesler dive when the game's over and there's no potential gain?

He lost a couple bottom teeth and had 13 stitches last series. Probably hurt like hell.

edit: Oops. Didn't see RedLightGoesOn's comment above.